Jypsy Dog
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I use it in my DWC tanks. 10 drops per 5 gal. It's the same Bacteria that's in the Hydroguard bottles. Only 1000x more concentrated.
My First Vert
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Awesome man! Thanks for the tip I owe ya one. Unfortunately can't find a place to buy it
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Tangie
Maybe it's me but they look better today?
trichomes packing on.Just got 5 bottles of seaweed feed from Wilkos thanks @coreywebster .. Also got some Epsom salts from home bargains, £2.50 for a kilo, not bad for the convenience of not waiting for the post man.
coreywebster
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I feel like a bit of a dick now, I hope you got the right kelp, they sell two kinds last I saw. One is a full fertiliser with kelp and one is a kelp tonic with no added NPK. Hope you got the later. If not you can always return it for a swap.
I don't want to be the cause of any further problems for ya like overferting..
Regarding what your hydro store guy said about microbes, I think he's right, as In they are ment for a medium they can live in and create a biosphere. Not sure if theres any value in adding them to rockwool on its own. I wanted to use them initially to unlock all those nutrients that get bonded to the coco. I suppose there a possibility they would have some benefit in rockwool as most bottled nutrients are not fully available to the roots. I might have to have a read up on that and see what I can find out.
Your gona have some serious amounts of buds when you get the new CMH set up man..
I don't want to be the cause of any further problems for ya like overferting..
Regarding what your hydro store guy said about microbes, I think he's right, as In they are ment for a medium they can live in and create a biosphere. Not sure if theres any value in adding them to rockwool on its own. I wanted to use them initially to unlock all those nutrients that get bonded to the coco. I suppose there a possibility they would have some benefit in rockwool as most bottled nutrients are not fully available to the roots. I might have to have a read up on that and see what I can find out.
Your gona have some serious amounts of buds when you get the new CMH set up man..
Don't worry mate I got the tonic! Was the only one they had anyway, emptied the shelf as my local had barely any garden stuff left.. Still debating whether to stock up on the coco just incase I decide to switch.. They also have a nice heated propogator for 13 quid.I feel like a bit of a dick now, I hope you got the right kelp, they sell two kinds last I saw. One is a full fertiliser with kelp and one is a kelp tonic with no added NPK. Hope you got the later. If not you can always return it for a swap.
I don't want to be the cause of any further problems for ya like overferting..
Regarding what your hydro store guy said about microbes, I think he's right, as In they are ment for a medium they can live in and create a biosphere. Not sure if theres any value in adding them to rockwool on its own. I wanted to use them initially to unlock all those nutrients that get bonded to the coco. I suppose there a possibility they would have some benefit in rockwool as most bottled nutrients are not fully available to the roots. I might have to have a read up on that and see what I can find out.
Your gona have some serious amounts of buds when you get the new CMH set up man..
Let me know what you find, I could be throwing microbes in for no reason, but as far as I was aware they lived on the root mass. I know people use them in hydro setups so they must live in water.. And water is suspended in rockwool. That's just my thought process. I have no idea. All I can say is since using it ive had no lockouts or issues with suspected root rot. My temps have been real high too lately. 33c at some times. Might have to borrow my sisters portable AC now she don't use it
Yeah man super excited, I wish I had better canopy management though, my plants seem to of bunched up at the top and grown into the light, looks like a small version of an actual tree lol.
coreywebster
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Ah nice one! Had a bit of I sinking feeling when I read your post.. 
Wilkos is awesome ey! Worth getting some of those blocks for the price they are. I like it out of the bag by canna but couldn't resist the price. Plus my hydro shop is often closed or getting busted for shit they shouldn't be doing so I try and limit my visits, so its good to have some spare in case I need it. They sell mycorrhizal fungi in wilkos too..
Wilkos is awesome ey! Worth getting some of those blocks for the price they are. I like it out of the bag by canna but couldn't resist the price. Plus my hydro shop is often closed or getting busted for shit they shouldn't be doing so I try and limit my visits, so its good to have some spare in case I need it. They sell mycorrhizal fungi in wilkos too..
Wilkos is incredible haha. I just checked and they're all out of stock of that online. Shame they only do it seasonal, so much better than actual garden centres! Glad you put me onto them.Ah nice one! Had a bit of I sinking feeling when I read your post..
Wilkos is awesome ey! Worth getting some of those blocks for the price they are. I like it out of the bag by canna but couldn't resist the price. Plus my hydro shop is often closed or getting busted for shit they shouldn't be doing so I try and limit my visits, so its good to have some spare in case I need it. They sell mycorrhizal fungi in wilkos too..
Yeah my old local grow shop obviously did a grow and one week they just weren't there after I interupted a smoke/harvest party they were having lol. Ive got a local guy that's closer but he's barely ever there. Does me cheaper than online prices every time though. Real nice guy. Excited for the new light
gr865
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Sounds like your hydro guy is like mine, give me great prices and a lot of free stuff. I get better than online prices on ferts and additives. On lights and lamps I just bought a 315W Phillips and he only charged me $60, cheapest I found online was $73 plus shipping.Wilkos is incredible haha. I just checked and they're all out of stock of that online. Shame they only do it seasonal, so much better than actual garden centres! Glad you put me onto them.
Yeah my old local grow shop obviously did a grow and one week they just weren't there after I interupted a smoke/harvest party they were having lol. Ive got a local guy that's closer but he's barely ever there. Does me cheaper than online prices every time though. Real nice guy. Excited for the new light
You mentioned the plant getting into the lamp, I found out most of my burns come from the buds touching the lamp when I take them in and out of the tent. One little bump and it's burnt spot.
GR
coreywebster
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@JDMase , didn't have to look very far.
Microbial characteristics of rockwool
Rockwool, being a ‘sterile’ product (only directly after production) does not contain any naturally occurring beneficial microbial populations when first planted out, however research has shown that microbial life does develop in rockwool substrates in the same way as other more `organic’ mediums such as peat and coco. This build up of beneficial microbial populations however is generally slower in rockwool as there are initially limited carbon sources for the microbes to feed on. as root systems develop and produce organic exudate, microbial life inside rockwool gradually build, however rockwool can be inoculated with microbial products to assist this process and help develop a healthy root zone. The high level of oxygenation in a well managed rockwool system also help with the establishment and multiplication of beneficial microbe populations.
http://www.cannagardening.com/characteristics_of_rockwool
Microbial characteristics of rockwool
Rockwool, being a ‘sterile’ product (only directly after production) does not contain any naturally occurring beneficial microbial populations when first planted out, however research has shown that microbial life does develop in rockwool substrates in the same way as other more `organic’ mediums such as peat and coco. This build up of beneficial microbial populations however is generally slower in rockwool as there are initially limited carbon sources for the microbes to feed on. as root systems develop and produce organic exudate, microbial life inside rockwool gradually build, however rockwool can be inoculated with microbial products to assist this process and help develop a healthy root zone. The high level of oxygenation in a well managed rockwool system also help with the establishment and multiplication of beneficial microbe populations.
http://www.cannagardening.com/characteristics_of_rockwool
Awesome stuff! so I need to add carbon to my Rockwool then? Haha.
I wish the £ was stronger, $60 is a steal for one of those!
I was considering getting one of those lamp guards for mine, in the stretch they just seemed to head rigt for the lamp, mine are in the tent indefinitely - I never set mine up to come in and out as I used dutch leach trays and I tied the netting to the tent. I have a whole pineapple bud completely fried. Hey ho, lots of trichomes on it as a result. I will save that one for a night time smoke. (Lots of amber)
gr865
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When I got my 1st 315W from him, it was a demo that he had in a tent there at the shop. He only used it two weeks because folks looking in the tent to see the light complained that it was to bright to tell anything and hurt their eyes.. So he pulled it, sold me the Nanolux 315 NA for $200 including the bulb. The second one I bought online because he could not get me one right away from Nanolux, the where back ordered. I ended up paying, I think, $315 for lamp and bulb. Big difference!
I had a screen that I made to cover the lamp, made if from 1/4" welded wire, It was in my 400W setup, I removed it when I realized it was blocking too much light, Since I started with it on there I never really noticed it, until a member point it out. I removed it from the lamp and man what a difference it made. Would not think so but it did.
My plants now are 8' away from the lamp on the lower parts of the plants and about 14" at the tops, I can adjust my screen to rotate back and forth. about 20 to 30 degrees in both directions.
raised PPM to 800ish today from 700-750, also added 0.5 potassium silicate (not 5ml this time lol) and a tablespoon (level) of Epsom salts. Interesting to see the PPM's go up so much from Epsom salts. Ended up being nearly 1000ppm.
My tap water is quite hard so I usually start at around the 300 mark.
Hope I haven't given them too much!
I also haven't been leaving my tap water to stand for the recommended 12-24 hours. Ive not seen any issues but I know the chlorine would be killing my microbes which im spending so much on. So another rookie mistake im rectifying. Water is standing now ready for tomorrow
My tap water is quite hard so I usually start at around the 300 mark.
Hope I haven't given them too much!
I also haven't been leaving my tap water to stand for the recommended 12-24 hours. Ive not seen any issues but I know the chlorine would be killing my microbes which im spending so much on. So another rookie mistake im rectifying. Water is standing now ready for tomorrow
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gr865
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I add 2 tsp/5 gallon Epson in RO and it raises my pppm from around 5 ppm to 55 ppm, I then add 2+ ml of Cal/Magic and it takes me to 120 +/- ppm. Then I add my base nutes. I am winding them down now with 12 +/- days to harvest. Have begun adding just RO to the rez, the RO ph is 5.98 +/-. adding two gallons a night. Just started and my rez ppm is 670/1.3 EC, and the pH is 5.74.
I hope I am not starting to early but looking at he trichs they are starting to cloud, not much but they are still packing on weight.
I hope I am not starting to early but looking at he trichs they are starting to cloud, not much but they are still packing on weight.
Well I must've gone way over then, a teaspoon per 5 gallons? I did a tablespoon for 6.5 litres. I just went off the first forum post I saw. I think im gonna give them a break from additives - temps are as high as 35c in the tent at the moment. Going to have to lower the nutrients again to compensate.
How come your pH is so low? I usually start at 5.8 and finish in 6.3 steadily rising through the grow, it's aomething @LandAndHeir told me about when I first joined the forum.
Skywalker kush, grapefruit krush and sage n sour all popped within 1 day, I checked on day 2 and its day 3 now and I desperately need to plant them so I got up early to do so. Completely forgot about it yesterday.
Sapphire OG and afghan Kush Ryder should be ready to go soon too
Sapphire OG and afghan Kush Ryder should be ready to go soon too
This is sage n sour, all of them pretty much looked like this. Ive not had good success rates with seedlings ive left this long. Rockwool cubes pH of 5.7 - shaken excess off before poking a cocktail stick through so I can fit the majority of the root down. Packed with some root hormone powder and xtreme gardening mykos. Then I plugged the tops with a piece of rockwool at the top.
