My First Grow - Tag Along Please

Do all that with the water and give it 48 hours. If there is no change or if it gets worse then it may be a loss.
Post some pics in 24 then 48 hours. Let us know.

Okay its been 8 days, i got a fan for ventilation, raised the waterlevel in my pots and changed out the light with a better spectrum, they seem to love it all is well now, roots are hanging on the bottom already.



Havent checked the ph or ec, i dont have the equipment, if those are perfect will they grow even faster?




Don't know if anyone is following this, whould love more input

Hey Butter, umm yeah and no to your question.
How fast and tall and or bushy they get is really dependent on their genetics.
The Ph and PPM/Ec is to make sure that they don't get nute burn or any other issues that is easily preventable.
Also growth rate depends on nutes, but from the way she's looking she will start to take off.
You really need a ppm meter and a PH meter when growing hydro and they are reasonably cheap on amazon….

http://www.amazon.com/HM-Digital-TDS-EZ-Measurement-Resolution/dp/B002C0A7ZY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1404453349&sr=8-1&keywords=ppm meter

http://www.amazon.com/Etekcity-PH-009-Quality-Digital-Pocket/dp/B00CH3QZSE/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1404453376&sr=8-3&keywords=PH meter

These are the two I have, daily cheap and do a good job, calibrate the ph meter per instructions that come with it.
I also bought a ppm solution to test the accuracy of the factory calibration for the ppm meter. I found that the two (same thing) that I have are about 110 to 150 too high. No big deal I just take that away from what my reading in the reservoir is..


Other than that your root are nice an white and looking good but your tap water is likely to high ph and if it gets too bad it can severely injure your plant if not kill it.
Also she's a bit yellow prob need more nutes but you can't tell till you get the ppm meter, she should be a medium to light green and getting deeper green everyday

My next money will go towards ec and ph pen.\

Shot!

how long till i can take 14 cuttings of this plant?

more or less 4 weeks?

Are you trying to make it a mother plant?
If not then 14 cuttings may be a lot. If you do want it to be a mother then you should start by taking 2-3 at first then work your way up to 14 or more.
I am new to cloning still, but from what i have been told by someone that is an experienced cloner if you let a mother continue to grow and take a few at a time the first few times and then the mother plant will turn into a damn bush allowing you to take 15-20 at a time.
Don't try to run before you can walk.

Right now just focus on keeping that girl healthy and happy, the cloning will come but only after you have a strong healthy plant.

I was going to buy clones but they guy I was going to buy it from could not root the clones or manage to keep them alive. Now I will be making this my mother plant.

She is Yellowing up on top, I just want to know if it is normal?

When can I do my first topping?

butterbudface said:

I was going to buy clones but they guy I was going to buy it from could not root the clones or manage to keep them alive. Now I will be making this my mother plant.

She is Yellowing up on top, I just want to know if it is normal?

When can I do my first topping?
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No that's not normal, she needs some nitrogen among other things that just water don't provide. At 4-5 nodes its safe to top or FIM. As for 14 clones.... It'll be a month or so before you can get that many... Good rule of thumb for taking clones, 4-5 nodes or 4-5 inches per clone, check out the DIY bubble cloner in my signature.

I'm with frozenchozen up there, they are hurting for nutes, gotta get that ppm meter I linked you and the ph meter or one similar. You simply can not do hydro with out those items it is a literal must, otherwise you have no idea whats going to the girl.
Oh and no definitely not normal. They should be a plush deep green
Hey Frozen I might be wrong but I'm throwing you a big Oorah! If you don't know what I'm talking about then disregard otherwise you got it.

As for topping it, I would wait till you have her at a good color.
Then when you have new growth coming up that will form a Y with what looks like a closed flower in the middle of the Y take top that, just easily bend it with you fingers it will pop, then take it and toss it away.
The closed flower by the way will be about a half an inch tall, take it then, try to get it before it opens.

thank you, is nitrogen the grow the bloom or the micro bottle? and then im getting the meters this afternoon, can i post what i found on here and you give me help with what to add and what to do?

Look at the nutrient bottles, the numbers on the bottom represent Nitrgon, phosphorus, and potassium in that order.
Grow and micro you should be using at first, however General Hydronics own nutrient chart says to use a little bloom in the beginning.
Here is the link for the feeding schedule per GH
http://generalhydroponics.com/site/index.php/resources/feeding_schedule/

I will be honest I never let mine go over 1100 ppm even now into my first week of flower. But I found the honey spot with my ladies and they love it.
Thats why you need a ppm meter, if you go over the ppm recommended then you will over feed and kill your girl.

So in summary use grow and micro first, micro actually has more nitro than the grow but you still need grow well not really but for a simple set up, if you have it use it, I did.
Click on the link to show you the recirculating feed schedule it will show you were your ppm should be, you should start with week one and work up. I would do 1/2 of what the schedule is telling you, allow your plants to adjust for a week and then go full.
Then daily check your water level, PH, and PPM.

Sure post what you got (as far as meter readings) up here as soon as you can, we will get that girl back up and running.

Ok, ordered the ph pen will arive on monday, In the mean time i got another guys pen wil go take a reading in a half an hour and then post it here, as for the ppm meter, i cant seem to find it around here, will do more searching though, can i use vinigar to get my ph down?

Yeah for vinegar and lemon juice to bring it up.
The ppm meters are on amazon if you can have something delivered.

Shit I was wrong sorry
3rd shift got me tired….
don't use vinegar, use lemon juice to bring it down and baking soda to bring it up.
But if vinegar is all you have then ok but start with just a little then test it, don't go throwing a lot in there at first..

I didn't know vinegar was so acidic, just a little bit goes a long way! pH adjusted with new nutrient formula.

so now its a waiting game?

before and after pH levels on pictures

Ok you need to bring it up a bit. 5.8-6.2 is best really. The best way to bring it up just a little is to add more tap water.
When you start getting that low you'll get a nute lock. No uptake of the nutes.
Now you need to check it daily. Because you used vinegar I'd check it twice a day. I've read the vinegar can wear off fast, but not always.

Good thing is your ph wasn't too high to start. Gotta get some nitrogen in that girl. Nitro helps her grow string stems and big green leaves.

can you buy pure nitrogen or just a nitrogen additive?

Just get the right amount of that grow and micro in there and you'll be ok.
Use that link I posted or hell I'll make it easy.
For now use 1.25ml per gallon of gro and micro for this week. Next week bump up to 2.5ml of grow and micro, also add 1ml of bloom per gallon.

thank you man, I did use the chart you provided. will post plant pictures in a day or 2

Ok good luck man hope she turns around for you