My first ever grow, stealth PC grow using LEDs

rufus01

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Maybe you can try the Supercrop technique? I saw some supercropped autos around and they respond well apparently.
Northen Light is not easy to handle in a standard grow room, with a PC you really have to train it hard!
 

rufus01

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ahhh, by the way.... my two cents for your next run, forget the SCRGOG and try LST.
You can start LST earlier and is easy in such small environment.
 

Triplec

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Thanks man. Yea I was originally going to ditch the scrog and use the screw/tie down method, but didn't. I've been doing some reading and I think what I'm going to try and do is use some string and tie the tall main stem down gently so it will start growing at more of an upward angle instead of straight up. I can tie one end of the string to the scrog that's already in place, then the other end to the plant. Not seeing many other options. The second plant isn't going to be as tall or produce as much so I think I'll have a little room to let the bigger plant grow that way.
 

Triplec

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Well I took some string and slightly leaned the main stalk of the larger plant. Not sure this will make much difference. Haven't noticed much if any upward growth in the last day. I guess if it doesn't get much taller I can straighten it back out. The leaves are getting a little droopy during the 4 dark hours, but are straightening up after a few hours under light. The humidity is getting a tad but high again, I guess since the majority of the airflow is towards the base of the plants.
 

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lofly247

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If it were me I would gradually shorten that string at the same time as I raised the plant closer to the light. Either lifting the pot up on some books or lowering the light if you can.
 

Triplec

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If it were me I would gradually shorten that string at the same time as I raised the plant closer to the light. Either lifting the pot up on some books or lowering the light if you can.
What about the weight of the buds when they start to swell and get bigger? Couldn't that cause that main stem to fall over if it leans much more horizontally?
 

lofly247

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I might leave that to other more experienced growers given that you are bending this late in the game. Have a look here or in my sig for my LST efforts.

www.rollitup.org/t/learning-a-lot-on-first-ever-grow.827480/

I did a lot of reading up on it beforehand and space forced me to bend those bitches real early on. I don't know how it will turn out but I have managed to keep the plant only inches high and have about 10 bud sites that are getting pretty good light.
 

Triplec

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I might leave that to other more experienced growers given that you are bending this late in the game. Have a look here or in my sig for my LST efforts.

www.rollitup.org/t/learning-a-lot-on-first-ever-grow.827480/

I did a lot of reading up on it beforehand and space forced me to bend those bitches real early on. I don't know how it will turn out but I have managed to keep the plant only inches high and have about 10 bud sites that are getting pretty good light.
There still hasn't been much, if any, upward growth in another day that I can tell so I may be alright, hopefully. Right now I'm looking for a usb powered fan to put in the upper part of the case to increase airflow at the top cause they keep getting very droopy during dark hours. The only intake fan is in the lower middle so there's not much if any airflow going across the flowers.
 

Spanky's Monkey

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Don't sweat the plants when they be sleep. You do need good airflow on the plant. Keeps fresh CO2 blowing across those leaves and helps her breath easy. If you really want to prevent fatigue from colas put the plants under a fan early to help thicken up the stalk as she grows. Fat colas will cause bending but that is rare in the micro grow and will not happen if you get them seedlings under a nice breeze.
 

Triplec

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Well, my larger plant has grown a little more to where the upper most flower can't get light from the light rail at the top. It's pretty reflective in there but I'd still like the light to shoot right down on it. I guess I'll take some more string and slightly bend her over some more.
 

Triplec

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Here's some updated pics. I'm almost two weeks into flowering. As you can see the first plant which is much larger than the second is only about no more than two inches from the top of the case. So like I mentioned earlier I'm gonna have to take some more string and slightly bend her to the left a little more. In the second pic that's a good shot of one of the flowers. I think it's growing real nice. I have about 17 that look almost just like that just on that plant. The other plant is at least a full week behind I think.
 

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Triplec

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Here's an update. Day 52/53 from seeding. Plant 1 is on day 53 and has always been about 2 weeks behind plant 2 which is at days 52. Since I messed up the scrog procress I've has to tie down and crossover the plants to maximize the light. I also stunted plant 1's grow even more last week by virtually breaking the main stem while watering. I had lifted the pot to high to drain the catcher underneath. When I did that the main stem snapped at nearly a 90 degree angle but didn't break off. I didn't notice it for like 3 days and then saw upper leaves dying. I straightened it up, taped the stem nice and firm, then bent her over so she's not touching the top. I guess that will set it back another week or so. So plant one may go 90 days or so. For plant two, the better plant, I'm thinking harvest around 75-80 days. I'm concerned about the upper cola that the top part of the plant will ripen before the other flowers are read for harvest. It's about the size of my thumb. All the others are still really tiny with little to no brown trichs on them. If you guys have some suggestions that would be great. Can I harvest the upper node before the rest of the plant? I'm not sure an autoflower could recover from that. Anyway, here are some pics of plant two, the better one. Let me know what you think.
 

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Triplec

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Haha, nice man! Mine plant is hitting ceiling too, haha :)
Looks good!

I want to find those LED lights!
You should go to mrgrowpro.net where I bought the box. You can email Kevin the owner and see about the possibility of buying those LEDs separately through him. Not sure he'd do that, but worth a shot. There is no branding or identifying marks on the box those lights came in or I'd give you that info. When I get home ill post a photo of the box. Maybe you can find something though.
 

uzerneims

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You should go to mrgrowpro.net where I bought the box. You can email Kevin the owner and see about the possibility of buying those LEDs separately through him. Not sure he'd do that, but worth a shot. There is no branding or identifying marks on the box those lights came in or I'd give you that info. When I get home ill post a photo of the box. Maybe you can find something though.
AFAIK - those are OSRAM GreenDragon LED's. Yeah i hit him with email, it would be cool, to get those LED in my small space - am, i need diagram for wiring, cuz i got problems with physics and all those AMPS (ok, im just too lazy, to re-introduce myself with school theory)...
 

420Hazza

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AFAIK - those are OSRAM GreenDragon LED's. Yeah i hit him with email, it would be cool, to get those LED in my small space - am, i need diagram for wiring, cuz i got problems with physics and all those AMPS (ok, im just too lazy, to re-introduce myself with school theory)...
Mate I'm getting a pair of ION8 UVB, I heard many crap feedback on most led like vipar.... Btw the ion8 is upgraded series of blackstar chrome with removable led's so you can fix broken section easily :) the cost £400 each but I recon it's worth it
 

uzerneims

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Mate I'm getting a pair of ION8 UVB, I heard many crap feedback on most led like vipar.... Btw the ion8 is upgraded series of blackstar chrome with removable led's so you can fix broken section easily :) the cost £400 each but I recon it's worth it
Fuck that consumerism - i'm more into doing my own LED light, it is more better, check out LED section, there are those COB bin's witch beat hps
 

420Hazza

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Fuck that consumerism - i'm more into doing my own LED light, it is more better, check out LED section, there are those COB bin's witch beat hps
It's better mate, but you have to be sure you get proper Cree diodes, made in us not Chinese cheep ones, as they got low input like 1<3W. But these on the ion8 are proper US creed,10w each white and 8w blue diodes + proper hydroponic UVB bulb as well as properly designed heat sink for the highest thermal lost + customisable diode panel. Check it out
http://www.ebay.com/itm/291134928309
 

uzerneims

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It's better mate, but you have to be sure you get proper Cree diodes, made in us not Chinese cheep ones, as they got low input like 1<3W. But these on the ion8 are proper US creed,10w each white and 8w blue diodes + proper hydroponic UVB bulb as well as properly designed heat sink for the highest thermal lost + customisable diode panel. Check it out
http://www.ebay.com/itm/291134928309
Mmm. Sounds good! It looks good too! :o
Yeah, original Z4 Bins 50$ Cree
 
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