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Gibbz2.0

Gibbz2.0

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DNA Genetics Seeds Martian Mean Green
Feminized Cannabis Seeds - Pick 'n' Mix
1
£11.49
DNA Genetics Seeds Chocolope
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1
£10.59
DNA Genetics Seeds El Fuego AUTO
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1
£8.63
Auto Seeds Purple Cheese
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1
£8.79
Auto Seeds Diesel Berry
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1
£7.79
DNA Genetics Seeds Cataract Kush
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1
£10.59
Freedom of Seeds Mighty Grape
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1
£8.09
World of Seeds AUTO Northern Lights x Big Bud
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1
£9.19
Royal Queen Seeds Bubble Kush Automatic
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1
£6.49
Emerald Triangle Seeds Cotton Candy Cane
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1
£7.59
Emerald Triangle Seeds G13 X Blueberry Headband
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1
£7.59
Freedom Of Seeds Doctor Kush
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1
£8.09
Freedom of Seeds Big Domina AUTOFLOWERING
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1
£10.39
Barneys Farm Seeds Liberty Haze
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1
£6.39
FEMINIZED UFO #1 Dinafem Seeds Purple Afghan Kush
1
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FEMINIZED UFO #2 710 Genetics Seeds Andromina
1
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FEMINIZED UFO #3 Humboldt Seed Organization Dr. Greenthumb's Dedoverde Haze AUTO
1
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FEMINIZED UFO #4 Humboldt Seed Organization Lemon Garlic OG
1
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FEMINIZED UFO #5 DNA Genetics Seeds Sour Kosher
1
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Jimdamick

Jimdamick

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Nice seeds and good luck, BUT, as mentioned above, too many single seeds for you to take advantage of each strain. Take your time, take 3 of your favorite strains that you want to grow, plant 2 seeds each and hopefully you will get 1 good plant from each strain. It takes 3 months to grow a crop, and you have enough seeds for a long time, assuming 3 or 4 plants per grow. You also have the autos, which in my opinion are not worth the water, so that could make it even more fucked up. Old saying. Keep it simple.
 
racerboy71

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
Jimdamick said:
Nice seeds and good luck, BUT, as mentioned above, too many single seeds for you to take advantage of each strain. Take your time, take 3 of your favorite strains that you want to grow, plant 2 seeds each and hopefully you will get 1 good plant from each strain. It takes 3 months to grow a crop, and you have enough seeds for a long time, assuming 3 or 4 plants per grow. You also have the autos, which in my opinion are not worth the water, so that could make it even more fucked up. Old saying. Keep it simple.
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have you ever gown any autos jim? i am about to start up a new grow, and have a bunch of auto freebies, and was thinking of growing one out while i'm vegging the photo's.. i've never messed with any auto's as ruderalis isn't really attractive to me.. was just going to do one on the side to see what's what..
 
Thefarmer12

Thefarmer12

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racerboy71 said:
have you ever gown any autos jim? i am about to start up a new grow, and have a bunch of auto freebies, and was thinking of growing one out while i'm vegging the photo's.. i've never messed with any auto's as ruderalis isn't really attractive to me.. was just going to do one on the side to see what's what..
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Matter of opinion and a lot of myth based around autos.

Whether or not autos are worth it is to me based on your situation and goal.

There are plenty of autoflowers that blow photoperiod strains out of the water and vice versa. However it is simply not true that they do not yield or are not potent, just depends on the strain.

Also in my opinion autos are a lot harder to grow than photos. You screw up in the veg stage and autos will be pointless whereas photos can be vegged to outgrow the mistakes. No topping, no transplanting and no over feeding and you are good.

Most people claiming autos are not worth the time have never grown them or messed up growing them. I have many years experience and am breaking into commercial so you can take my opinion at face value however I have grown both.
 
Jimdamick

Jimdamick

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racerboy71 said:
have you ever gown any autos jim? i am about to start up a new grow, and have a bunch of auto freebies, and was thinking of growing one out while i'm vegging the photo's.. i've never messed with any auto's as ruderalis isn't really attractive to me.. was just going to do one on the side to see what's what..
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Well racerboyo71, no, I actually have never grown one of those genetic misfits. I believe that they are basically for those people that can't tell time, and like to waste a lot of money by burning unnecessary watts.
The production of this type is legendary for the amount of bud produced, and not in a good way. I believe it is simply a entry point for new growers, so I wouldn't waste the footprint.
 
Jimdamick

Jimdamick

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Thefarmer12 said:
Matter of opinion and a lot of myth based around autos.

Whether or not autos are worth it is to me based on your situation and goal.

There are plenty of autoflowers that blow photoperiod strains out of the water and vice versa. However it is simply not true that they do not yield or are not potent, just depends on the strain.

Also in my opinion autos are a lot harder to grow than photos. You screw up in the veg stage and autos will be pointless whereas photos can be vegged to outgrow the mistakes. No topping, no transplanting and no over feeding and you are good.

Most people claiming autos are not worth the time have never grown them or messed up growing them. I have many years experience and am breaking into commercial so you can take my opinion at face value however I have grown both.
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You know what, you make me want to try one. Good post, and as I mentioned, I have never grown one, so I should shut the fuck up. I bow to you.
What time schedule do you use? I was under the impression that 16 hours on was advised? Is this true? If it is, that increases cost a lot.
 
racerboy71

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
Thefarmer12 said:
Matter of opinion and a lot of myth based around autos.

Whether or not autos are worth it is to me based on your situation and goal.

There are plenty of autoflowers that blow photoperiod strains out of the water and vice versa. However it is simply not true that they do not yield or are not potent, just depends on the strain.

Also in my opinion autos are a lot harder to grow than photos. You screw up in the veg stage and autos will be pointless whereas photos can be vegged to outgrow the mistakes. No topping, no transplanting and no over feeding and you are good.

Most people claiming autos are not worth the time have never grown them or messed up growing them. I have many years experience and am breaking into commercial so you can take my opinion at face value however I have grown both.
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hey, i got a quick question as well.. what is the average flowering time of the autos you've run? i know some will be quicker than others, so on and so on, but over all, how many days from seed to harvest for an auto?
 
Thefarmer12

Thefarmer12

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Jimdamick said:
You know what, you make me want to try one. Good post, and as I mentioned, I have never grown one, so I should shut the fuck up. I bow to you.
What time schedule do you use? I was under the impression that 16 hours on was advised? Is this true? If it is, that increases cost a lot.
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Just to clarify off the bat I had no intentions of 'lecturing' anyone nor did I mean to sound like I was singling you out as one of those who spreads myth. Autos aren't for everyone, in fact they're not completely for me. Now that we got that cleared up...!

Let us take a trip back to the 80's, when brick weed was flowing and Sativas were all we knew. I'm fuzzy on the details but it may have been the guy who originally ran Sensi Seeds who went to Afghanistan/Pakistan and brought home a plant known as an Indica variety. Very mysterious to all who had been growing and breeding Sativas at the time. Few people in the western world had seen Indicas nor heard of them.

With all new things there are those who oversell and those who are overly critical of change. Many thought these Indica plants were "way too small" and flowered "way too quick" to yeild much (which was probably true before they were cross bred). One of my family members who has relayed some of this info to me was the same way.

As you can see now, most strains grown today are either Indica or Indica crosses as they are much more practical.

Now I'm not saying that Autos are the next Indica , they are not. But this is all food for thought.

Anyway, the lighting schedule for auto flowers is a matter of preference and strain but I've always ran them either 18/6 or 20/4. More costly indeed which is where my issue with them lies.

However when these do reach their potential which may be current day, they have benefits for certain growers. Our friends up north in Canada being one. They have short winter seasons and these strains are perfect for them. Indoors they can be worth the money if you're running quite a few. I'm a SOG grower be it personal mini grows or major warehouse grows and so I grew autos SOG style with great results plant numbers around 50 for personal use. Commercial success will never be in the cards. They cannot be cloned and it would be costly growing from seed. Another issue I have.

Lastly I've attached a few pictures from google images. A breeder buddy of mine and owner of autoflower-portal.net collaborated with another breeds (Mossy - or atleast on a few strains I believe) to make the "dragon line" contained in these pictures. Probably the best yielding and potent autos available. Not all will live up to this but just an example.

Apologies for a long post, swear I'm not hyped up on meth or something :eyesmoke:image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg
 
Thefarmer12

Thefarmer12

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racerboy71 said:
hey, i got a quick question as well.. what is the average flowering time of the autos you've run? i know some will be quicker than others, so on and so on, but over all, how many days from seed to harvest for an auto?
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Most breeders info is misleading. 70 days total seems to be the magic number but I've taken some to 80-90 depending on genetics. Sometimes a Sativa in the mix takes it longer or for example the Dragons I mentioned above take longer which likely results in the ridiculous yield.

70-80 is pretty standard though and the usual rules applied to photos apply to autos. (Receding red hairs, cloudy, amber trichs). Once the trichs start turning the thc turns into other, less valuable compounds.
 
Thefarmer12

Thefarmer12

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Gibbz2.0 said:
I actually bought the autos for a short cycle outdoor next summer. Did a lot of reading on them before I bought them.
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Sorry to hijack your thread! Great seed purchase. The beauty of single seed purchases is that you can clone each one before flowering and if you find a knock out strain you have as many plants as you want from that mother without purchasing a whole pack. Awesome when it comes to expensive genetics!

Also Cataract is a fantastic strain! Hope you get some good ones! Good luck.
 
Gibbz2.0

Gibbz2.0

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Thanks a bunch partly bought singles to clone and wanted a huge variety... Sativas indicas hybrids and autos, see what I like best and clone all of them and if I don't like one I can throw or sell the plants
 
Jimdamick

Jimdamick

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Thefarmer12 said:
Just to clarify off the bat I had no intentions of 'lecturing' anyone nor did I mean to sound like I was singling you out as one of those who spreads myth. Autos aren't for everyone, in fact they're not completely for me. Now that we got that cleared up...!

Let us take a trip back to the 80's, when brick weed was flowing and Sativas were all we knew. I'm fuzzy on the details but it may have been the guy who originally ran Sensi Seeds who went to Afghanistan/Pakistan and brought home a plant known as an Indica variety. Very mysterious to all who had been growing and breeding Sativas at the time. Few people in the western world had seen Indicas nor heard of them.

With all new things there are those who oversell and those who are overly critical of change. Many thought these Indica plants were "way too small" and flowered "way too quick" to yeild much (which was probably true before they were cross bred). One of my family members who has relayed some of this info to me was the same way.

As you can see now, most strains grown today are either Indica or Indica crosses as they are much more practical.

Now I'm not saying that Autos are the next Indica , they are not. But this is all food for thought.

Anyway, the lighting schedule for auto flowers is a matter of preference and strain but I've always ran them either 18/6 or 20/4. More costly indeed which is where my issue with them lies.

However when these do reach their potential which may be current day, they have benefits for certain growers. Our friends up north in Canada being one. They have short winter seasons and these strains are perfect for them. Indoors they can be worth the money if you're running quite a few. I'm a SOG grower be it personal mini grows or major warehouse grows and so I grew autos SOG style with great results plant numbers around 50 for personal use. Commercial success will never be in the cards. They cannot be cloned and it would be costly growing from seed. Another issue I have.

Lastly I've attached a few pictures from google images. A breeder buddy of mine and owner of autoflower-portal.net collaborated with another breeds (Mossy - or atleast on a few strains I believe) to make the "dragon line" contained in these pictures. Probably the best yielding and potent autos available. Not all will live up to this but just an example.

Apologies for a long post, swear I'm not hyped up on meth or something :eyesmoke:View attachment 3463521 View attachment 3463522 View attachment 3463523 View attachment 3463524
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Nope, good info is never too long. Excellent post and some fantastic looking bud. If that color natural, or does temperature play a part? You should sell posters of that bud, I would rip the Farrah Fawcett one off my ceiling, and replace it with one of yours, and get a sock out and get to it.
 
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incognegro999

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Jimdamick said:
Nope, good info is never too long. Excellent post and some fantastic looking bud. If that color natural, or does temperature play a part? You should sell posters of that bud, I would rip the Farrah Fawcett one off my ceiling, and replace it with one of yours, and get a sock out and get to it.
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Hahaha epic
 
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althor

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Thefarmer12 said:
Matter of opinion and a lot of myth based around autos.

Whether or not autos are worth it is to me based on your situation and goal.

There are plenty of autoflowers that blow photoperiod strains out of the water and vice versa. However it is simply not true that they do not yield or are not potent, just depends on the strain.

Also in my opinion autos are a lot harder to grow than photos. You screw up in the veg stage and autos will be pointless whereas photos can be vegged to outgrow the mistakes. No topping, no transplanting and no over feeding and you are good.

Most people claiming autos are not worth the time have never grown them or messed up growing them. I have many years experience and am breaking into commercial so you can take my opinion at face value however I have grown both.
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I would like to see the auto that "blow photoperiod strains out of the water". The best auto I have smoked was almost as good as most photos, not as good and that was the BEST auto I have ever grown/smoked.
I certainly wouldn't say they aren't worth their water, but I would say I wouldnt waste my soil on an auto, I would plant a photo in that soil instead.
 
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althor

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torontoke said:
I have tried both and couldnt give the stuff away after literally.
I ran auto jack and auto nl.
A couple different times.
Not worth it in my books unless as u said u stick em in with your already vegging photos. Mine went 60-70 days total and the yield was almost not worth the nutes. Considering the potency being mid at best, id only run em for something to smoke while the good stuff is flowering.
18/6-20/4 is recommended however if you stick em in 12/12 with your photos they still produce almost as much as the longer light cycle.
The best yielding autos only yield 100-125 grams so keep expectations low.

If they were freebies run em but dont spend any money on em imo.
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Yep, problem I have come across is the buzz from autos (even when potent) isn't well rounded. It gives you a pretty funny feeling buzz that is missing something to balance it out. The only strain I have grown/smoked that was anywhere near as good as a regular photo was Female Seeds Auto Critical. I think the real difference in the critical and most other autos was it took 10 weeks (after showing sex) to mature. At that point, why would I bother with an auto? If I am growing 10 wk flower time strains, I will take the non-ruderalis strains.
 
blowincherrypie

blowincherrypie

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torontoke said:
I have tried both and couldnt give the stuff away after literally.
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I couldn't give the stuff away.. People would ask before they hit the blunt if it was that "auto crap" and the cpl batches of brownies I made tasted odd and had a different high (but I suppose some people may actually prefer it.. much, much, much more mellow)

Autos are a waste of time, don't save on electricity, aren't any "easier" and are in fact easier to mess up imo. I know there are times where autos make sense, but the vast majority of people would prefer a bud from a photo ran 12/12 from seed than an auto ran 70 days.
 
Qmonwy

Qmonwy

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I grew some autos a couple times and like the farmer said if you screw up in veg their worthless. Also, I agree with Jim, I'd knock it out to a poster of that bud.
 
SupraSPL

SupraSPL

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First starting out I would order a bunch of singles so I could figure out what flavors there were and which ones to pursue. I had never experienced a real OG, diesel, grape etc. Maybe that would not apply to people who have access to dispensaries but a good approach for those of us who have only ever had commercial kind.

Once you zero in on the flavors that interest you, then you can run a pack or two of that variety to try and find a standout with that flavor. The best thing you could have if a handful of those unique flavors that you can rotate and mix.

The first OG I came across that has the cologne was Reserva Privada OG18 and I was impressed how that flavor stayed in the jar for months. Since then I have run dozens of OGs and the best I have come across was Rare Dankness Lee Roy OG. The chem was Divine Genetics GSC X Chem D fem. The best sour D was TH Seeds Sage n Sour fem. Cali Connection Alien OG fems were very good, a hashy skunk frosty bunch. Reserva Privada Sour Kush was very good as well as Skywalker OG.

Lots of other very unique flavors to search out. Just came across some amazingly citrus Sin City - Tangerine Power. From a 6 pack of fems, 4 citrusy/dunkin donuts smelling ladies and 2 had low smell but plenty of frosting. 5 of 6 were very frosty. 3 had amazing flavor with 2 that really standout, 2 of which yielded decent also.
 
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