my 3 stages of flower

great thread. im gonna try this soon with 2k watts. just a couple questions. each 1k light has its own 3 rail system? (4'W,5'L,9sites inside rail site staggered?) im not gonna do perpetual at first. what you think about having a remote rez out of the grow room. i was thinking about a 10gal tote the rails drained to then a small sump pump to take it back to a remote rez. is that just to much added work for the remote rez? but i think i could grow even larger tree's this way with an extra 1' cut from the rail support and also run a cooler rez this way. thanks for any answers you can give me. peace be with you.:peace:
 

axtorus

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Seems a bit much. It would be better if you drain the rails into a 2-3" PVC pipe and grade it back to the remote rez if possible. Less chance for mechanical failure and heat build up IMO
 

superstoner1

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Wow. I just realized how many pages and he is this thread has. Its been a long time since I've done any updates, and I'm sorry for that, but life happens. after my heart attack it really took me a little longer than I thought to feel mentally better enough to where I could seriously put myself back into doing the things I wanted to do to my grow. well I can tell you now I've been feeling great now I have been working my ass off. The new vegroom is completely done and working great the new flower room is 99% done just minor changes like rerouting tstat and co2 controller and some painting that needs to be done.
I wanted to go from my every 3 weeks harvest to every two week harvest but I really didn't have enough cooling power from the air conditioning or enough electricity demand to warrant adding another thousand watt light to the flower room. between vegroom and flower room I was already running about 3500 watts of light plus the co2 burner and a dehumidifier and the ballasts.so I have gone from a 6x10 room with 3000 watts of light to11 by 10 flower room with 3432 watts by deciding to use a 4 foot 8 bulb t5 fluorescent for the first two weeks of those plants going into the flower room and then move them over underneath a 1k hps as the next units are harvested. the first batch has just moved from being under the fluorescent for 2 weeks to under the HPS and they look beaof.iful. and the great thing is my average temperatures have dropped by 4 degrees at lights on now, I'm going to have to start playing with my thermostat again. I just replaced all three 1k bulbs with different ones to see the differences.IMG_20140517_001200.jpg IMG_20140517_001225.jpg IMG_20140517_001236.jpg IMG_20140517_001250.jpg IMG_20140517_001303.jpg IMG_20140517_003810.JPG going to take some pictures of nobody say anything about the wiring its still from the original room but I wanted to get everything done but eventually I'll get to it its safe is just a cluster. both rooms now have their own individual water source and I have a one and a half inch drain that runs through both rooms so everything has its own drain like the dehumidifier the CO two burner on the air conditioning and drains for me to pump my reservoirs out of
 

Tone5500

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I wish I had more room in my house to do something like this but it impossible when u two kids and have brothers and sisiters that fell like they can live with you at all times. sweet setup tho man ..
 
Here's my new system i was telling you about. Its 4 GH panda res' (4x8 area) with the sprayer manifolds inside, that drain down to a sump reservoir with a sump pump on a float switch that pumps back to the main res outside the room. The sprayer manifolds are powered by 1 powerful shallow well pump. I split the 4 manifolds into 2 using 2 solenoids one normally open and one normally closed, set on a timer. This way i get twice the pressure (30 psi) The spray pattern is awesome and the speed of growth is better then iv'e seen so far running low pressure. The roots have tons of room to spread out and grow inside the tubs. I've been running this system for several months now tweaking it here and there and i think i finally hit on something good!
 

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superstoner1

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absolutely beautiful idea dude I always have liked you because you seem to have a head on your shoulders and common sense very good job please keep in touch
 

waterdawg

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Amazing setup!!! You guys are amazingly organized lol. Wondering if i can scale down the size of setup to fit into 2 3x3 area's. I have an 8x8 shed and trying to do it all in there is getting old lol. May bite the bullet and do another shed! Again nice setup! Sorry to hear about heart attack SS! Brother just had one and it is an eye opener to say the least. He was mowing the lawn 4 days after the artery was unblocked.
 

chunkylonin

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Dude, a triple beam is the only way to go. Every time I have had somebody test me and say my shit was light gets a pic of that sent to them and they never try again.
I was just busting your balls abit,never really used them but have heard good things,how much did it cost if you dont mind me asking?
 

superstoner1

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The funny thing about that scale is I got it from my local pipe tobacco and cigar shop because he ordered it and it is in grams and he wanted ounces. I was actually on my way to a head shop to get a digital scale right after I left there and he said he would sale it to me for $50. It also came with all the add on brass weights for bigger numbers.
 

natec631

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Ok, I'm just finishing up week 5 on flower. Plants seem to be a little small for this long. Been paying attention to my PH and keeping it to what SS1 recommends for each nute batch. I haven't been paying attention to the PPM but tonight I check it and it's at 155 which seems really low. They are drinking a lot of water and when I refill the rez, I add nutes based on how much water I add(meaning I'm still following SS1s recipe). Should I worry about the PPM? Some pics. First 2 are with the lights just coming on, the 3rd/4th are with the phone flash and the last is cause SS1 mentioned a cigar shop......
 

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superstoner1

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Nate they look great man are you sure that your meter is saying 155 and not 1550? If its that lowlowthen yes bump it up big. you will be amazed at the growth over the next 3 weeks
 

natec631

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Ok, did measured again and then noticed something flashing. Had to have my son look cause my old eyes couldn't tell what it was. Apparently my meter only has 3 digits and the flashing was x10.... :wall:

Good, just been looking at everyone else's pics and I'm like, damn, mine are little runts compared to some of you guys but I just figured that was partially due to this being my first run!
 

mike45214

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Here's my new system i was telling you about. Its 4 GH panda res' (4x8 area) with the sprayer manifolds inside, that drain down to a sump reservoir with a sump pump on a float switch that pumps back to the main res outside the room. The sprayer manifolds are powered by 1 powerful shallow well pump. I split the 4 manifolds into 2 using 2 solenoids one normally open and one normally closed, set on a timer. This way i get twice the pressure (30 psi) The spray pattern is awesome and the speed of growth is better then iv'e seen so far running low pressure. The roots have tons of room to spread out and grow inside the tubs. I've been running this system for several months now tweaking it here and there and i think i finally hit on something good!
If you could make a mark up of how you built you system and the parts needed I'd appreciate it.
 

Zombi Jeezus

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Sup fellas. My plans to build this kind of system has been put on hold for a minute. Would SS's recipe work fine in a hempy bucket setup?
 
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