More plants or less plants

Discussion in 'General Marijuana Growing' started by Damoslife, Dec 2, 2012.

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    Damoslife

    Damoslife Member

    I have a 90cm x 90 1.2m high indoor grow . I had four ten litre tubs under a 400w light in coco and air post .. All vented ect, setup is pro setup ... I had to lollipop my plants because it was such a small place the bottom was receiving little if no light.... So I was thinking is there away round this but not topping ! Or am I better to put 2 plants in a nft setup = plants get more light and more bud or 4 plants and risk the over crowding... Any advice or info greatful :) only my second grow so a newbie really
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    dolamic

    dolamic Well-Known Member

    Why no topping? I find it spreads the plant out more so you could essentially use less plants if that's a problem. I don't know metric as I'm an American (lazy American) so I don't know how big your space is. Aside from it all I think less plants and an even canopy work the best. Topping and Super-Cropping work wonders in these situations. Did I help? If not let me know, I will try harder next time :)
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    Damoslife

    Damoslife Member

    Yes I have looked into topping but not to sure as my space is 4 ft x 4ft x 6ft under 400w dual spec lamp... The bottom half of my plants are not getting any light at all! The tops are gettin so buddy and big but surely I am wasting half my plant ... I have started slowly bending my tops over using string ...

    I want the biggest yield possible every 8 weeks I have a separate be tent ....

    Would the yield be bigger doing sea of green ect with just two plants in nft or another low maitainance hydro or lollipop 4in coco.. I have no idea and be greatful for advice on gettin a biggish yield in such a confined limited space....
    E.g - type of system to use and how to train plants ect .. Willing to try a different setup if sounds good. I am new ao any info off experienced grower would be helpful :) smoke on peps ;)
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    Damoslife

    Damoslife Member

    I have a 90cm x 90 1.2m high indoor grow . I had four ten litre tubs under a 400w light in coco and air post .. All vented ect, setup is pro setup ... I had to lollipop my plants because it was such a small place the bottom was receiving little if no light.... So I was thinking is there away round this but not topping ! Or am I better to put 2 plants in a nft setup = plants get more light and more bud or 4 plants and risk the over crowding... Any advice or info greatful only my second grow so a newbie really
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    gotkush?

    gotkush? Well-Known Member

    under 400 watts of light i grow only one plant, topped, in 5 gallons of soil. theres just not enough light for much else unless you run 1 gallon pots. give your plants what they need and they will give you what they want
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    Damoslife

    Damoslife Member

    Yes but what sort of yield do you get off that per plant.. I want high yield to cover costs ;) so I more plants better for my situation = high yield :) thanks for input mate
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    superstoner1

    superstoner1 Well-Known Member

    topping is not the answer to everything. in fact, a lot of strains do not do as well when topped. i have many strains and probably 10 of them yield less if topped. know your strain first before screwing with it. a lot of people on here wouldnt have a clue what the unmolested plant would actually do if left alone.
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    Damoslife

    Damoslife Member

    Thank you :)
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    MrMeanGreen

    MrMeanGreen Active Member

    In a space that size I would be looking at a 16 plant SOG or a 1 plant SCROG. Either way canopy management is key with low wattage and a small footprint. Light penetration is always going to be really poor with this setup so anything below the canopy is gonna be worthless. SCROG would probably suite you better unless you can afford F&D table to fit that space. Just my opinion, not how it should be done.
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    Damoslife

    Damoslife Member

    F&d table? And yes I am thinking about two plants sea of green but would I be better to continue in coco with air pots or should I do hydro nft as I do know how to grow both ways ... Thanks for input
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    RetiredMatthebrute

    RetiredMatthebrute Well-Known Member

    2 plants is not sea of gree, sea of green would be 10 smaller plants instead of 2 bigger plants.
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    match box

    match box Well-Known Member

    You may want to look at the LED thread by matchbox. It may work better for ya. Fewer plants but large yield.
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    Relaxed

    Relaxed Well-Known Member

    using a 400 hps you should have at least 4 plants. Maybe closer to 10-12 sog for most yield. AS long as each plant isn't in the shade it is getting the light it needs. IMO one or 4 plants in a 400watt space that size is a waste of money and energy. Learn how to make every branch have sun by tiedown of some sorts. I use string to tie em down or really just move a branch or 2 several inchs. Remember, with a 400 watt you have to keep the plants 12 inches from the light and the light goes down about 12-14 inchs. Anything below that won't be tight buds. I use a 12 inch ruler to make a quick check regularly/adjustment. I'd say use 2 gal. pots if you go 10-12 plants and lately signs show the airpot is worth it and can be reused to pay for it.
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    Damoslife

    Damoslife Member

    Yes but how tall would you grow these plants too if growing ten little ones instead of 4 big in coco or hydro nft ...? What height flip over ect ... Is yield more or less this way ? Thanks for input :)
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    Relaxed

    Relaxed Well-Known Member

    I suggest 12/12 when plants are 1 foot tall. They would stretch to 2-4 ft. If you cant handle 4ft. tie those down to 3 ft. That way the canope is at the 2-3 ft. area for best light pen.
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    Relaxed

    Relaxed Well-Known Member

    oh, 1 ft. tall for flower that has been topped twice for 4 tops per plant. Go ahead and make clones out of each top. that will help you get to 10 plants fast. Oh the original plant make the last top about 10-14 days before flower.
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    MrMeanGreen

    MrMeanGreen Active Member

    pots are 6" tall, lights at max height need 10" at a push, clearance from light to canopy 12" (assuming u have nice cooled hood), total 28" = 72cm...... 120cm (1.2m) - 72cm = 48cm = 18 inches grow space.

    The maximum you can grow your plants to is about 18 inches. You cannot grow with conventional methods. A SOG, 16 (variable) clones straight to 12/12 or lowriders is the only way.

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