Mom might have cancer...

Alright guys, Im new here so if I didnt post in the correct place, sorry. lol. I need your guys help.. My mom just went to the hospital a few days ago because her back pain was unbearable. The doctors gave her a cat-scan, and they found a 7cm mass growing in her abdomen.. Im afraid its cancer and if it is then I really want her to use cannabis as Ive read online that Harvard did a study on mice and found it effective by reducing the size of the mass by 50%. But she's against Cannabis 100%. She thinks its a gateway drug and how its illegal. She hates it. Period. I just want her to try it without smoking it. But I live in Las Vegas so medical cards are 400$+ So thats out of the question haha. I just need help
 

sunni

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you cannot force her to ingest something that she doesn't want to , no matter how scared you are about her death. you will need to come up with facts and information for her to read over, dig up those studies, grab any material positive about cannabis and cancer, print it off, make sure its all legit and let her read it. and while she reads it, DO NOT pester her or piss her off about , give her a few days let her mull it over, if she decides cannabis is what she would like to do than start with edibles, concentrates, or smoking, or tea. But dont just go forcing cannabis down her throat without her knowing or she'll really dislike cannabis
 

ClaytonBigsby

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In the meantime, make her watch Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead, Food Inc, Farmegeddon, etc. on Netflix.

I hope everything will be ok for her. My wife was given 6 months to live, 14 years ago. She is great now.
 

sunni

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In the meantime, make her watch Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead, Food Inc, Farmegeddon, etc. on Netflix.

I hope everything will be ok for her. My wife was given 6 months to live, 14 years ago. She is great now.
YES THIS! its amazing how people just want 1 cure from 1 thing, your mom needs to CHANGE EVERYTHING about her life in order to get better,
proper diet, REAL FOOD
exercise,
ect ect, everything has to change in order to help
 

Heisenberg

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While the research is hopeful there is still much to learn about cannabis vs cancer. For example, burning cannabinoids alters their chemical composition. Just be careful to not give yourself false hope. It's not likely that any one substance will cure cancer as cancer has many different causes. Even if cannabis does prove effective it will likely just be mixed into the existing chemo-therapies we already have. It will likely have different degrees of effect on different people in different situations.

http://vanilla-paste-science.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/does-cannabis-really-cure-cancer.html

And check this site for any other question you have about medical treatments. There is a lot of bunk out there waiting to take advantage of desperate people.

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/


I am sorry for your situation. I wish the best for you and your mother.
 

tyler.durden

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Hey OP. I feel for you, and I'm in a similar dilemma. Last year, my mom's Alzheimer's has progressed to the point that she was no longer able to live by herself. My sister is her main caregiver and moved her into her home. I care for her at my place on the weekend, along with my 11 year old son. I've wanted for my mother to try marijuana for her Alzheimer's symptoms. It has been shown to, and is commonly prescribed for, the anxiety that often accompanies the disease. It has also been shown to be a strong acetylcholinesterase inhibitor (similar to what Donepizel does). She does not want to ingest marijuana, but is not against me or others from doing so. She has no coherant reasons for her objection and says it was just drummed into her that it is wrong. I'm her medical proxy, and I've seriously considered giving her edibles without her knowledge to see if there's any improvement to her quality of life. After all, it is safe and the chance of any permanent damage is next to nothing. I recently learned how to make a kick-ass butter (right here on RIU!) and have been experimenting on myself with it. I go back and forth on the morality of my potential deception. I know that if she did not want to take her proven, legitimate meds, I'd have absolutely no issue with deceiving her to take them. Unlike your mom, mine is no longer in her right mind, so the morality is complicated for me on what to do.
Sunni made a great point above that a disease can be improved by changing one's entire lifestyle. My sister is an amazing chef, and my mom now eats much better than she ever has: Lots of raw, whole foods, lots of fresh produce, less red meat, etc.. Her disease has hit a plateau for the last few months, and we're grateful for that. Anyway, thanks for sharing and I wish all the best for you and your mom Please update us as the situation unfolds...
 

aknight3

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Hey OP. I feel for you, and I'm in a similar dilemma. Last year, my mom's Alzheimer's has progressed to the point that she was no longer able to live by herself. My sister is her main caregiver and moved her into her home. I care for her at my place on the weekend, along with my 11 year old son. I've wanted for my mother to try marijuana for her Alzheimer's symptoms. It has been shown to, and is commonly prescribed for, the anxiety that often accompanies the disease. It has also been shown to be a strong acetylcholinesterase inhibitor (similar to what Donepizel does). She does not want to ingest marijuana, but is not against me or others from doing so. She has no coherant reasons for her objection and says it was just drummed into her that it is wrong. I'm her medical proxy, and I've seriously considered giving her edibles without her knowledge to see if there's any improvement to her quality of life. After all, it is safe and the chance of any permanent damage is next to nothing. I recently learned how to make a kick-ass butter (right here on RIU!) and have been experimenting on myself with it. I go back and forth on the morality of my potential deception. I know that if she did not want to take her proven, legitimate meds, I'd have absolutely no issue with deceiving her to take them. Unlike your mom, mine is no longer in her right mind, so the morality is complicated for me on what to do.
Sunni made a great point above that a disease can be improved by changing one's entire lifestyle. My sister is an amazing chef, and my mom now eats much better than she ever has: Lots of raw, whole foods, lots of fresh produce, less red meat, etc.. Her disease has hit a plateau for the last few months, and we're grateful for that. Anyway, thanks for sharing and I wish all the best for you and your mom Please update us as the situation unfolds...
man i hear you on this situation, i would hate to be in your spot. my mom is the same way would never do mmj just because it was drummed into her whole life that it was illegal wrong etc. but she will drink beer after beer and get piss drunk not remember anything and we get into a fight and she calls me a loser for smoking weed and to get a life...im like mom, you seriously get drunk and then forget shit and be stupid, now shes no alocholic but i digress...
if she didnt want to take her legitimate meds and you had to slip them to her unknown im sure you would, as any son or care giver would, why should marijuana be any different? there are really no severe long term consequences that can happen physically, i would be more worried about upsetting your mothers mental state that sometimes comes with eating cannabinoids...honestly shes really better off smoking it to start off to see how she reacts and how her body reacts, i have had friends that ate to much brownies or something and they seriously looked me in the eye and thought they were going to die lol. i mean i knew they were fine but when u get messed up on thc ingested that way it can be a very powerful, life changing even experience...

honestly there is no right answer to this problem man, its all how you feel in your heart, dont let anyone or anything, stereo type or ''morality'' police tell you its wrong to slip her drugs without her knowledge because i would argue, 1. marijuana isnt really even a drug, i mean it is in a sense that thc is a chemical molecule therefore is by definition, a drug but if you look at it that way, coffee, ciggarettes and even food could be considered a drug. personally i feel that if thedrug your giving somoene isnt life threatening to them then i think if you feel in your heart it could be the right thing to do and could really help her then, by all means man you should do it, but if you think she may react badly to it or if she finds out she took it may react badly to that, then maybe it isnt a great idea...

no one can tell you the answer to this question, the truth lies in your heart. you already know the right answer and you already know what you have to do...
its so frustrating sometimes when you sit back and look at how human society is now adays...its like we know we have so many stupid things ass backwards that its so far gone we cant sit down and change our reality and our perceptiton of all of this. an illusion, the maya deceiving us. i guess what im saying is it sucks the MMJ, something with such HUGE medical properties, practically revelutionary in how we look at healthcare and drugs in general is looked down upon so badly, its like there are people out there that 110% think marijuana is just as bad as heroin or crack or coke or lsd or anything, people just dont know man...everyone is asleep at the god damn wheel thats the problem, sorry for the novel, best of luck to your mom, i wish her well, as well as you.
 

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tyler.durden

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man i hear you on this situation, i would hate to be in your spot. my mom is the same way would never do mmj just because it was drummed into her whole life that it was illegal wrong etc. but she will drink beer after beer and get piss drunk not remember anything and we get into a fight and she calls me a loser for smoking weed and to get a life...im like mom, you seriously get drunk and then forget shit and be stupid, now shes no alocholic but i digress...
if she didnt want to take her legitimate meds and you had to slip them to her unknown im sure you would, as any son or care giver would, why should marijuana be any different? there are really no severe long term consequences that can happen physically, i would be more worried about upsetting your mothers mental state that sometimes comes with eating cannabinoids...honestly shes really better off smoking it to start off to see how she reacts and how her body reacts, i have had friends that ate to much brownies or something and they seriously looked me in the eye and thought they were going to die lol. i mean i knew they were fine but when u get messed up on thc ingested that way it can be a very powerful, life changing even experience...

honestly there is no right answer to this problem man, its all how you feel in your heart, dont let anyone or anything, stereo type or ''morality'' police tell you its wrong to slip her drugs without her knowledge because i would argue, 1. marijuana isnt really even a drug, i mean it is in a sense that thc is a chemical molecule therefore is by definition, a drug but if you look at it that way, coffee, ciggarettes and even food could be considered a drug. personally i feel that if thedrug your giving somoene isnt life threatening to them then i think if you feel in your heart it could be the right thing to do and could really help her then, by all means man you should do it, but if you think she may react badly to it or if she finds out she took it may react badly to that, then maybe it isnt a great idea...

no one can tell you the answer to this question, the truth lies in your heart. you already know the right answer and you already know what you have to do...
its so frustrating sometimes when you sit back and look at how human society is now adays...its like we know we have so many stupid things ass backwards that its so far gone we cant sit down and change our reality and our perceptiton of all of this. an illusion, the maya deceiving us. i guess what im saying is it sucks the MMJ, something with such HUGE medical properties, practically revelutionary in how we look at healthcare and drugs in general is looked down upon so badly, its like there are people out there that 110% think marijuana is just as bad as heroin or crack or coke or lsd or anything, people just dont know man...everyone is asleep at the god damn wheel thats the problem, sorry for the novel, best of luck to your mom, i wish her well, as well as you.
Thanks, man. I wanted her to smoke it, I even smoked in front of her for the first time to show her how it's done, but she just didn't want to try. I'm in Chicago, and an MMJ Bill is up for approval here in Illinois currently and it looks like it just may pass this time. If it does, I'll have my mom down at the docs ASAP for her card. With a recommendation, I think she just may try it. I may even put on a ruse if it doesn't pass: maybe just tell her it did and make up a phoney card or something. Still not sure, but I'll update if I decide to go through with it. Thanks for the well-wishes, my man...
 

Moebius

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Get her a Vitamix blender, it'll help her access the 'hidden' nutrition inside fruit/vegetables and provide her with the energy she needs to fight off the tumor.
 

d3dm4n

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yeah that sucks I hope everything goes well but i wouldn't force her to ingest it ... what happens if by some crazy chance shes allergic ... then you have that on your shoulders
 
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