molasses in hydroponics?

Discussion in 'Hydroponics / Aeroponics' started by mobby420, Dec 30, 2007.

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    mobby420

    mobby420 Well-Known Member

    can i use mollases when watering my plants in rockwool ?

    i am 3 weeks into flowering and would like to do everything possible to get those big juicy inflated looking calyxes

    ive heard of lots of earth growers using them, but not hydro... so im askin the question!
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    sgtpeppr

    sgtpeppr Well-Known Member

    Go for it...but I would do it separately from you reservoir. I can't imagine molasses running through your plumbing system would be to good.....sticky. You could just feed them it manually.
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    jessesing315

    jessesing315 Active Member

    you can use molasses for hydroponic but i would suggest a hydroponic supplement such as sugardaddy.
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    mobby420

    mobby420 Well-Known Member

    i was originally looking for a supplement, but no one had any ideas so i thought of molasses, knowing a few earth growers that use it...... i just want something to help a little with the getting the bigs thick and juicy.... i already have a basic nutrient mix for flowering...
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    potroast

    potroast Uses the Rollitup profile Staff Member

    Yeah, I've used it in hydro. When I was running B'Cuzz organic nutes, they call for their Flavor component during the second half of flowering, and it's mostly Beet Molasses. I use only 5ml/gallon of res nutes, added to regular flowering nutes. It causes the pH to rise daily, pretty dramatically, so you have to watch that.

    I'm trying the Botanicare Sweet now, and haven't noticed any difference than without it.

    What you actually want is Cane sugar and citric acid. Those 2 working together will do the trick. Those are the main ingredients in Sweet.

    HTH :mrgreen:
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    Brussels

    Brussels Active Member

    I have been using two organic Botanicare products in bubblers with great success. I feel that because they are organic products, adverse chemical interactions seldom occure. I use 'Pure Blend Pro Grow' and vegging has been vigorous and absolutely lush. I've used 1/4 oz/gal of water on cuttings for one week, and seedlings for three weeks, under 18/6 lights. I run it up to 1/2 oz/gal through one week after I flip to 12/12. I set pH at 5.3 to 5.6 for solutions changes, as checking in pH in bubblers will only frustrate you.

    After one week at 12/12, I go to Botanicare's 'pureblend pro bloom' at 1/2 oz/gal, again running up to 3/4 oz/gal after one week. I remain at this solution for five weeks, give or take a little, just depending on the strain and flowering time. During the last week with Pro Bloom, I also add 1 oz of molasses to the solution and set pH. For the final week for a flush, I use only the molasses and water, going to 1 1/2 oz/gal with molassas. I've had some people scoff at my use of molassas, but i've used it with incredable results on organic outdoor grows, and now with my bubblers. You can see buds swell from day to day... There is never any "sticky stuff' like many ppl think. I clean my tub and airstones with every solution change anyway.
    In the past, I have used other much more expensive solution mixes, with complicated formulas, but have now learned that "simple is good". Botanicare has worked very well for me, with few problems. And no, i dont work for, or sell this stuff. I simply grow very smooth and sweet smokin cannibis...B
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    pandabear

    pandabear Well-Known Member

    Let me tell u a fatful story one that will live in imfamy,


    First grow, 6 five foot budding plants, halfway through flower.


    Enter the molassis in the res.

    Enter "THE DEMON"

    plants rooted rotted within 2 days, it was to late to fix,


    finally came to the ULTIMATE realization and chopped all 6 plants down, nothing was smokable.

    Molassis in Hydro, i as absolutly not. maybe so professional surgary products maybe, but never again shall the deadly molssasis blob ever enter my babies roots, NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!
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    bongspit

    bongspit New Member

    I use molasses in my soil grow, but I have read really bad things about molasses in hydro. It stops up pumps and I have read some posts from people that tried it in hydro and it turns the roots to slime....:blsmoke:
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    towlie

    towlie Well-Known Member

    The grow-FAQ section of this site recommends throwing some pure vanilla, blueberry or whatever in 3-hours before harvest. Has anyone tried this with success???
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    Dowd1

    Dowd1 Well-Known Member

    ive used mollassess in my hydro unit now for 6 grows and not one problem. I introduced my plants to it almost from day one.My nutes are chemical and the mollasses are organic which i have read is suppossed to be a nono,And once again ive never had a problem.The mollasses are a source of complex carbohydrates for the plants using it in veg increases the stem thickness by almost double compared to plants grown without.
    I dont know where you guys come up with mollasses in hydro is bad.old boy who introduced his plants to it the third week of bloom and they got root rot and everything else did something else wrong.ive never seen mollasses destroy any plants only improve them,no matter what way you go( organic or chemical) sugars are a necesary part of your plants growth and should be present in all stages of growth
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    Dowd1

    Dowd1 Well-Known Member

    My pumps are strong as could be.They are taken apart after every grow and are cleaned very well.Ive never noticed any sticky parts or gumming up anywhere in the pump.As for the roots i have all white root system with a tint of brown that washes away with a byweekly flushing with clearex.I also use hydrogen peroxide once a week which probably helps keep things inline.I put my plants into bud 10 days ago and they are more than twice the size,How can anyone say mollasses in hydro is bad?
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    whythef*not?

    whythef*not? Active Member

    I would be willing to bet that molasses can help to make your res more susceptible to things like root rot or other root-based diseases.
    If it doesn't work for you in hydro, your res is probably too hot or too stagnant. Or you're not using the right molasses.
    I've had bad luck with it in the past, but I kept trying and finally got the hang of it.
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    morrisgreenberg

    morrisgreenberg Well-Known Member

    the original poster asked if he could feed molasses in RW, i would not do this personally and its not worth it yet, since RW holds onto salts and water, it will and should hold onto the sweet sticky stuff, attracting bugs. most people only want the best for thier garden and dont fully understand why sweets are used, it is not used primarily for flavor but during late flower and if used during final flush it will alter the flavor of your smoke. the genteleman who posted about root rot is dead on, if you add molasses to your rez you have about a 50/50 chance of getting root rot, this molasses will feed bacterias, this is good if you have beneficials in your soil and bad if you have bad bacterias in water, this can make your res a very hospitable place for these bad bacteria to flourish in. the whole idea is too add carbohydrates to the plant, thru minerals, water and sunlight and thru the process of photosynthesis plants make they're own food by way of turning all those elements into carbs, thus giving the plant energy, now if you took some sugar daddy, sweet, or floranectar which are perfectly watered down and made from about 17% sugar cane this would be just right for hydro. this will add energy for your plants, who wouldnt want to give the plants a boost? makes life easier for the plants and if you like a sweet tasting final product go for it. so sweetners for hydro and molasses or sugar water for soil.

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