Molasses Flush

chuck estevez · Feb 16, 2013

REALSTYLES said:
I'm right you are under 25 you just can't stop cussing I guess it's not your fault I blame your parents for not teaching you how to speak to grown men. Lets see some pics and not the ones you'll get off of google either

idiot,I'm 45 and I don't post pics as i don't need to prove nothing to some dumbass who thinks molasses leaches salts and people are smoking heavy metals if they don't flush. you are simply retarded and i am done with you.

Rancho Cucamonga · Feb 16, 2013

If you use any chem ferts you do want to flush, no matter what anyone says you need to flush. Now flushing could mean watering only for a week or so, or by running gallons upon gallons of water through pots near the end. The perfect ending to me is a big flush of about 1 gallon of WATER ONLY through each gallon of soil about 7-10 days before harvest. Then I just water normally until harvest.
You can use molasses up to a few waterings before cut, but it makes no sense to use it for flushing or for the last few waterings.
Molasses is best used as SirGanga said, begin using it when buds begin to form, about week 3-4 using it up to week 8 or 7-10 days before harvest.
DO NOT USE ANY FLUSHING AGENTS. Just water.
There will be some that say do not flush, ignore them. If you still have too much of something when you cut that will effect taste no matter what you do in dry or cure. I have to assume people like hotrod, who knows a lot, that tell people not to flush must use full organics. If you use any chem/synthetic nutes you need to at least use water only a week before harvest.

chuck estevez · Feb 16, 2013

Rancho Cucamonga said:
If you use any chem ferts you do want to flush, no matter what anyone says you need to flush. Now flushing could mean watering only for a week or so, or by running gallons upon gallons of water through pots near the end. The perfect ending to me is a big flush of about 1 gallon of WATER ONLY through each gallon of soil about 7-10 days before harvest. Then I just water normally until harvest.
You can use molasses up to a few waterings before cut, but it makes no sense to use it for flushing or for the last few waterings.
Molasses is best used as SirGanga said, begin using it when buds begin to form, about week 3-4 using it up to week 8 or 7-10 days before harvest.
DO NOT USE ANY FLUSHING AGENTS. Just water.
There will be some that say do not flush, ignore them. If you still have too much of something when you cut that will effect taste no matter what you do in dry or cure. I have to assume people like hotrod, who knows a lot, that tell people not to flush must use full organics. If you use any chem/synthetic nutes you need to at least use water only a week before harvest.

TSK<TSK<TSK. posting more crap that you read on the forum. sir ganja is a freaking joke. Nuff said.

Rancho Cucamonga · Feb 16, 2013

kr4x said:
so in all fairness molasses is only good for bud density?

Molasses feeds microbes which feed the roots which feed the plant which feed the buds. It provides healthy carbohydrates to stimulate growth.

Rancho Cucamonga · Feb 16, 2013

chuck estevez said:
TSK<TSK<TSK. posting more crap that you read on the forum. sir ganja is a freaking joke. Nuff said.

It's from experience grumpy.

chuck estevez · Feb 16, 2013

Rancho Cucamonga said:
It's from experience grumpy.

My experience says otherwise, so does basic plant botany, not sir ganja.lol

chuck estevez · Feb 16, 2013

Rancho Cucamonga said:
Molasses feeds microbes which feed the roots which feed the plant which feed the buds. It provides healthy carbohydrates to stimulate growth.

How come you understand this, but you don't understand how giving the plant plain water does not leach anything from the plant?

Rancho Cucamonga · Feb 16, 2013

chuck estevez said:
How come you understand this, but you don't understand how giving the plant plain water does not leach anything from the plant?

Correct, it leaches nutes and salts from the soil, not the plant. Not rocket science.

chuck estevez · Feb 16, 2013

Rancho Cucamonga said:
Correct, it leaches nutes and salts from the soil, not the plant. Not rocket science.

If you have an organic soilweb, you wouldn't have nutes and salt built up to have to leach your soil.
you make 0 sense.

I would want to keep my microbes fat and happy, especially the last 2 weeks when most trich production is going on.

stak · Feb 16, 2013

kagecog said:
I do have many years of growing experience.

quit lying

topfuel29 · Feb 16, 2013

If you use chemical nutrients the whole grow, say 16weeks. How does flushing the soil the last 2 weeks cancel out the 14weeks of using chemical nutrients? These chemical nutrients were used to build the plant. right?

chuck estevez · Feb 16, 2013

topfuel29 said:
If you use chemical nutrients the whole grow, say 16weeks. How does flushing the soil the last 2 weeks cancel out the 14weeks of using chemical nutrients? These chemical nutrients were used to build the plant. right?

yeah, see, bottom line is this, if using chemical nutes, molasses is probably pointless as there are no microbes to feed. If you are feeding properly and not overfeeding P and K in flower, you shouldn't have to leach anything.
there is a difference between chemical nutes and organic soil and even soiless mediums. I would feed water feed in soil and increase ppms as I go, but in soiless, i feed,feed,feed at a medium ppm. if I was growing organic. I would innoculate.

topfuel29 · Feb 16, 2013

chuck estevez said:
yeah, see, bottom line is this, if using chemical nutes, molasses is probably pointless as there are no microbes to feed. If you are feeding properly and not overfeeding P and K in flower, you shouldn't have to leach anything.
there is a difference between chemical nutes and organic soil and even soiless mediums. I would feed water feed in soil and increase ppms as I go, but in soiless, i feed,feed,feed at a medium ppm. if I was growing organic. I would innoculate.

Right on, that's what I was thinking to. Balls to the wall with nutrients, forced into a flush.

Bigby · Feb 17, 2013

Overkill maybe. Fools errand - no. Fools errand would be flushing with vodka to make your bud have alcohol in it too.

Bigby · Feb 17, 2013

chuck estevez said:
when you don't dry and cure properly and smoke shitty weed, you might get black ash.

And that is the only reason. Anyone who say anything else is wrong.

Please.

inhaleindica · Feb 17, 2013

(Face Palm)............ Your forgetting to help the guy out and arguing with each other. Doesn't solve anything. I stated my opinion and others can state theirs and let the person who posted decide for himself. I am younger than most of you and you guys still have to argue. When are you guys gonna learn? Where is the peace and love?

kr4x · Feb 17, 2013

lol thanks for all the replies I think im more confused then anything now.. I will do a straight water flush

thanks for all the inputs I had a fun time reading it

Sir.Ganga · Feb 17, 2013

chuck estevez said:
TSK<TSK<TSK. posting more crap that you read on the forum. sir ganja is a freaking joke. Nuff said.

Another dumb ass follower of that Uncle Popcorn, how many sock puppets can one guy have?

Just to let you know, so when the Cancer is racing through your body you'll know. Organic or chemical ferts all have heavy metals and heavy metals are the cause of many ailments. Flushing or not we are all ingesting these when intaking product. By flushing you lessen the intake.

Between the fertilizers and the bug sprays you use...let me know where to send the flowers

I'll make sure they are flushed properly for you boyfriend.

chuck estevez · Feb 17, 2013

Sir.Ganga said:
Another dumb ass follower of that Uncle Popcorn, how many sock puppets can one guy have?

Just to let you know, so when the Cancer is racing through your body you'll know. Organic or chemical ferts all have heavy metals and heavy metals are the cause of many ailments. Flushing or not we are all ingesting these when intaking product.

Between the fertilizers and the bug sprays you use...let me know where to send the flowers

I'll make sure they are flushed properly for you boyfriend.

ah the number one dumbass, I follow common plant botany. In chemical nutes they use chelating agents, MAybe you should look up what those do. I know your problem, you want to have the rep like UB, only problem is, your retarded and you spout a bunch of nonsense. I have never seen someone try SO hard to be popular and try and make someone who has credible rep look bad to no avail. you are a sad,sad man and need some serious help.

kr4x · Feb 17, 2013

im loving this thread.. jerry jerry jerry (jerry springer show)

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