MMPR Grow op: Small Scale

GrowRock

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I think I would take my chances with the mold instead of mold and irradiation. Your right whatfg this is sooooooo fucked John and the boys better kick the governments/mmpr/HC asses in February or this could go from bad to worse.
 

cannadan

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"Your right whatfg this is sooooooo fucked John and the boys better kick the governments/mmpr/HC asses in February or this could go from bad to worse."
I don't even entertain that thought......the gov will not win....period....
screw it lets colonize the moon....leave these people behind.....
 

woodsmaneh!

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Are you raising the white flag?
Not a chance, just warning and educating, the message is "spend your money elsewhere, your health may depend on it".

So before you commit to an LP ask the question and if they say yes, move on. Me I would make them sign a document saying they will notify me if they ever do it. Remember the reason for irradiation is so it will save a shitty crop from going in the garbage. = $$$

Irradation = I don't know what I am doing!!!! :wall: :spew:

I think the issues is LP's do not relies the QAP needs to be a super hero, so they look for a resume that says QA or something to that effect and your hired them. QAP's are like 4 leaf clovers, they are there just try to find them. QA is the most important person on your team. FULL STOP! You will live and die by your QAP so get it right people. Hire a QA who has built a production facility from the ground up, they have to do you production verification before you even start, can your QA do that. From where I sit 80% of the QAP's on applications can not do the job. They might get you your build out letter but they will fail you when production starts and God help you if HC come to inspect. Why am I putting this here?

This is all about quality control, if they were good at QC there would not be a need for irradiation, so just don't do it.

Now don't get me started on UV light, some places have all the money and people with PhD's up the ass but they are just are not smart, they just keep using band-aids and more band-aids.
 

WHATFG

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You surprise me wood...are you sure you don't want come back over to the winning team? We could use a smart cookie like you.....
 

itsmehigh

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"Now don't get me started on UV light"

What's your opinion on uv light? We have incorporated uv sterilization in all our HVAC systems similar to a hospital, uv light in the fan coils, and have an O3 system to shock treat the common areas while the facility is empty during the night. Not the grow rooms. We met some resistance with the HVAC engineers, simply because they haven't designed any systems like ours. The uv in the HVAC will be continuous 50 parts per billion in the grow environment, it's just another line of defence, and won't effect the plants. What's your take on uv woody?

Itsme.
 
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leaffan

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Not a chance, just warning and educating, the message is "spend your money elsewhere, your health may depend on it".

So before you commit to an LP ask the question and if they say yes, move on. Me I would make them sign a document saying they will notify me if they ever do it. Remember the reason for irradiation is so it will save a shitty crop from going in the garbage. = $$$

Irradation = I don't know what I am doing!!!! :wall: :spew:

I think the issues is LP's do not relies the QAP needs to be a super hero, so they look for a resume that says QA or something to that effect and your hired them. QAP's are like 4 leaf clovers, they are there just try to find them. QA is the most important person on your team. FULL STOP! You will live and die by your QAP so get it right people. Hire a QA who has built a production facility from the ground up, they have to do you production verification before you even start, can your QA do that. From where I sit 80% of the QAP's on applications can not do the job. They might get you your build out letter but they will fail you when production starts and God help you if HC come to inspect. Why am I putting this here?

This is all about quality control, if they were good at QC there would not be a need for irradiation, so just don't do it.

Now don't get me started on UV light, some places have all the money and people with PhD's up the ass but they are just are not smart, they just keep using band-aids and more band-aids.
When you irradiate with food you have to have that irradiation logo on the package...anything to be mandated for the LPs to put that logo on their packages?
Whats with the rumour of new HC drying regs to be introduced....flash drying?
 

CannaReview

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Flash drying ought to make for a really nice smokable product. Phhht!

Flash drying, that's when the weed smells like straw because the guy was using 2 LGR 7000 's in a small heated room to dry the weed completely dry in two days LOL just couldn't wait the 3 days it takes to slowly dry in a cooler dark room then sweat for a few days to get super pungent weed.
 

itsmehigh

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Not exactly sure what this flash drying is all about, never heard of it. There is a system out there that will heat the dry room up and control RH to kill any moulds, but it still takes 5-7 days to dry the cannabis. The manufactures insist that the process will only affect terpenes in a negligible way. Pricey though, but it may be an alternative to radiation. If you know what your doing, it (mould) shouldn't be a problem.
http://www.triqsystems.com/products/vulcan50.html
 

CannaReview

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Not exactly sure what this flash drying is all about, never heard of it. There is a system out there that will heat the dry room up and control RH to kill any moulds, but it still takes 5-7 days to dry the cannabis. The manufactures insist that the process will only affect terpenes in a negligible way. Pricey though, but it may be an alternative to radiation. If you know what your doing, it (mould) shouldn't be a problem.
http://www.triqsystems.com/products/vulcan50.html
Oh god

can be run via the cloud from
Seriously this is definitely worded to MBA retard types who feed off BS tech buzz words describing remove access.
 
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WHATFG

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Wouldn't 250 lbs of pot properly trimmed and hung or laid out dry in 7-10 days? So what's the point of that thing that costs almost 20k? That was as far as I read.
 

The Hippy

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Wouldn't 250 lbs of pot properly trimmed and hung or laid out dry in 7-10 days? So what's the point of that thing that costs almost 20k? That was as far as I read.
They are scrambling to try and put out something smoke-able.....next they'll be employing wizards.....sorry no pic...imagine your own on this one.
 

itsmehigh

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If your trying to dry 250lbs at one time, your just asking for issues. The equipment will kill 99% of moulds on the cannabis, with heat, an alternative to irradiation. Their test have show that thc,CBD are actually increased with this unit, at the expense of the terpenes. The thing with mould is it's always present, it just needs the right conditions to grow. The best solution to mould is to not provide any conditions for it to thrive, it's all about the grow environment. Even the best growers have struggled with this issue. The plants create their own micro climate within the canopy, the key is light penetration, air circulation, and a dialled temp and night time rh.

Itsme.
 

rnr

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I agree, id use uv in all hvac ect also, nothing wrong with that, another preventative= a good thing.
 

gb123

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If your trying to dry 250lbs at one time, your just asking for issues. The equipment will kill 99% of moulds on the cannabis, with heat, an alternative to irradiation. Their test have show that thc,CBD are actually increased with this unit, at the expense of the terpenes. The thing with mould is it's always present, it just needs the right conditions to grow. The best solution to mould is to not provide any conditions for it to thrive, it's all about the grow environment. Even the best growers have struggled with this issue. The plants create their own micro climate within the canopy, the key is light penetration, air circulation, and a dialled temp and night time rh.

Itsme.
YOU CANNOT INCREASE CBD in a plant !!! Specially the way you're yappin
:lol:



It's no wonder, there's so much misguided info out there.
 
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GrowRock

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Ya if anything heating cbds should make them less not more. And how can sterilizing cannabis with heat cause the cbds to increase???
 
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