MMPR documenatation not recognized by law enforcement as "legitimate"
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freddyc
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I liked Kevin Spencer, Canadian Family Guy......lol
bigmanc
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Anthony, what discussion with the crown is coming to a stand still? the "this paper could be printed from the internet" ?
Are you only being charged with possession?
Its kinda funny, i bet you would get less of a run around without LP papers. Crown would drop it on a doc note for fuck sakes. Im from Toronto too and i know how it is, some hot shot cop (probably young) odds are you were at CW on the weekend (2 super troopers per car) and they wanted to act tough and give ya a hard time.
If it was me, i wouldnt go down calm. Id tell them to go fuck themselves and tell them there a bunch of pig fucking goofs wasting tax dollars on something thats legal. Id almost wish to be charged so i could sue for more.
In your case Anthony, get this dealt with ASAP. This whole program could change and be non-existent come February. If it is, they will only be more confused.
My next advice;
1) Go to RCMP Toronto branch by the airport and get the new laws in writing with letter head.
2) Go to YRPS and get there version of the law in writing with letter head.
3) Adjournment(s) until you can obtain legal help due to finances.
4) All doc notes and referals.
Do not leave the RCMP office with the old or wrong laws***VERY IMPORTANT***. Who gives a shit about YRPS if they write down the old ones but better if they do write down the current laws, i wouldnt tell them the situation < Only if you really must to get what you need. Get a adjourment for late november/december if you can. Ofcourse all doc notes and narcotic perscriptions if you can. If you always use the same pharmacy go and ask them to print off all you have got over the last year. If they wont do it call your insurance company if you have one.
Go through all this http://www.laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2013-119/ most importantly the possession sub section and print it all off. Show your sources.
My idea would be to cross examine the documents you get from Federal Government (RCMP) with Regional Government (YRPS) and this should get you out of it. Dont be shy, dont be quiet and fight for your rights.
If they dont buy any of this Anthony il see ya at your trial.
Are you only being charged with possession?
Its kinda funny, i bet you would get less of a run around without LP papers. Crown would drop it on a doc note for fuck sakes. Im from Toronto too and i know how it is, some hot shot cop (probably young) odds are you were at CW on the weekend (2 super troopers per car) and they wanted to act tough and give ya a hard time.
If it was me, i wouldnt go down calm. Id tell them to go fuck themselves and tell them there a bunch of pig fucking goofs wasting tax dollars on something thats legal. Id almost wish to be charged so i could sue for more.
In your case Anthony, get this dealt with ASAP. This whole program could change and be non-existent come February. If it is, they will only be more confused.
My next advice;
1) Go to RCMP Toronto branch by the airport and get the new laws in writing with letter head.
2) Go to YRPS and get there version of the law in writing with letter head.
3) Adjournment(s) until you can obtain legal help due to finances.
4) All doc notes and referals.
Do not leave the RCMP office with the old or wrong laws***VERY IMPORTANT***. Who gives a shit about YRPS if they write down the old ones but better if they do write down the current laws, i wouldnt tell them the situation < Only if you really must to get what you need. Get a adjourment for late november/december if you can. Ofcourse all doc notes and narcotic perscriptions if you can. If you always use the same pharmacy go and ask them to print off all you have got over the last year. If they wont do it call your insurance company if you have one.
Go through all this http://www.laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2013-119/ most importantly the possession sub section and print it all off. Show your sources.
My idea would be to cross examine the documents you get from Federal Government (RCMP) with Regional Government (YRPS) and this should get you out of it. Dont be shy, dont be quiet and fight for your rights.
If they dont buy any of this Anthony il see ya at your trial.
bigmanc
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If i step into YRPS shoes for a minute; this is all they have to go off of.
Proof of authority to possess
125. On demand, an individual who, in accordance with these Regulations, obtains dried marihuana for their own medical purposes must show to a police officer proof that they are authorized to possess the dried marihuana.
I dont know what the LP receipt is but does it say "Authorization to possess"
If you can Anthony, get a sec56 note.
Proof of authority to possess
125. On demand, an individual who, in accordance with these Regulations, obtains dried marihuana for their own medical purposes must show to a police officer proof that they are authorized to possess the dried marihuana.
I dont know what the LP receipt is but does it say "Authorization to possess"
If you can Anthony, get a sec56 note.
bigmanc
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Trials are do or die. Shouldnt have to go that far, he shouldnt have even been detained let alone court.
Skylor
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YEP and there is something called second hand smoke. I'm from a MM legal state here in the USA, I would never dream of lighting up a joint in any smoking area. We got one place that we can medicate indoors and its an hour drive from me. My MM letter in Michigan says no pubic smoking period, we got eatiables I guess.
I've been legal for 2 years now and I still act pretty much like its still illegal. Why ask for problems. Yeah I know you Canadians treat people more fairly and maybe you do have a right to medicate/smoke in smoking areas but that seems pushing it and in a place where lots of children sometime are around, ah,I feel uncomfortable drinking a beer at a ball game if lots of children are around--and thats been legal to do for ages now .
Good luck I hope U beat this bum rap\\
Oh, BTW, smoking weed inside your car is crazy. Your car could become your coffin if you got into an accident with it. Yeah I know, U can still drive just fine more then likely but still, weed is a drug and drug use has no business inside automobiles....I don't care if the motorist next to you pops his pills and then drives, two wrongs don;t make it right
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I agree it shouldn't go to trial. It should be thrown out after his note is comfirmed by the crown. I can't see a crown prosecutor wanting to spend the time and resources to fight a confirmed sick canadian. As long as the note is legit the crown has no legs to stand on.
WHATFG
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Our government wants everyone to think that they are treating this like every other medication even though they constantly remind us that mj has no scientific evidence to back up its effectiveness. Having said that...if that is how we are to behave, then where I medicate is irrelevant...you sure don't see security guards or cops detaining a diabetic for whipping out a needle full of.....is it insulin? are we sure it isn't heroin? I guess the point I'm trying to make is that if I can drop a handful of pills in public why shouldn't I be allowed to go into a public area designated for stinky practices and medicate?
NorthernLass
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The official Canadian government documentation that comes with the mmj says that smoking is bad for you, you should not smoke mmj. But the government also says that the only legal form of mmj is dried bud. Concentrates or eatables are illegal. Our prime minister is an ass. He hates mmj and creates every regulation he can think of to make things difficult. Right now they are running a bunch of anti-marijuana ads on tv paid for with our own money. The only reason it is legal at all is because the supreme court overruled him.
The cops also treat smoking in your car the same as drinking in your car. So smoking there will get you pinched.
VIANARCHRIS
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[QUOTE="NorthernLass, post: 11005048, member: 825504"
The cops also treat smoking in your car the same as drinking in your car. So smoking there will get you pinched.[/QUOTE]
Use a designated driver! I smoke all the time when my wife is driving and never had an issue.
The cops also treat smoking in your car the same as drinking in your car. So smoking there will get you pinched.[/QUOTE]
Use a designated driver! I smoke all the time when my wife is driving and never had an issue.
Right now in Canada the field sobriety test are the only way for police to prove your ability to drive is impaired. They can and will demand a blood sample if you are arrested for impaired. if you're a medical user the results will be massive amount of thc in your system at all times. This alone doesn't prove impairment. You can look high as fûck but if you can pass the sobriety test it will be difficult/impossible for them to prove impairment.
WHATFG
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Well if they actually treated mj like other meds they would realize that everyone using every single day, build a tolerance to the effects. They let you drive under the influence of morphine, oxy, Demerol blah blah blah....using your discretion wtf is different about mj?
Absolutely nothing... As long as you're not impaired. You can be charged with DUI for driving under the influence of prescription drugs as easily as you can for mj.
WHATFG
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Yes but you are warned to make sure you can function. I was terrified for years of driving to get the mail in the morning because I was hooped on morphine. It took me a very long time feel like I could drive safely...not so much with mj.
Well up here the language used in all anti smoking laws clearly speak to the use of tobacco not mj. If you don't mind the occasional argument with a close minded retard you can smoke outdoors any where and not need to be worried. I use a pen vape for shatter and hash everywhere. Never had any problems inside or out. The op is in this mess due to his doctors note not looking right. The cops had a right to question him. The documentation he provided didn't look right. The same as having prescription meds not in the proper container they were dispensed in. That's why he was charged. As for your opinion about driving and smoking, what's the difference between smoking at home then going for a drive and smoking while driving? I medicate all day and I'm never impaired. I'm I suspose to stop driving? Should I just take more percs and Xanax during the day and only smoke at night? That's a lot safer right? Lol you don't sound like a real medical user. I smoke so I don't have to take those fucking things. Medicated is not = impairment.