MMMP and driving

resinhead

resinhead

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I have been lurking here for years. Long before I became a member. I have been reading all of your posts, and feel like I kind of know some of you guys. The michigan patients section is my favorite place on the web.
I never posted in the introduce yourself thread, but i want to tell you all a little bit about myself, because i feel great due to the good news I just got.
I recently just overcame the biggest obstacle that I have had in my life. Monday I got my drivers license back after over a decade without it. I'm still riding cloud 9 from the great news.
I had 2 DUIs when I was 18 and 19. One for drinking and driving, and one for smoking and driving. In this area, my story is not uncommon.
It took a lot of hard work, unimaginable stress, thousands of miles walked, participation in the 12 step program (that i hate) around $10000 and a lawyer to get my privlages restored.
It has been 34 months since I drank any alcohol, and I owe the disappearance of that craving to my lady Mary Jane. She has always been a part of my life but I found a new respect for my life and hers when I got legal and began cultivating. It opened up new ideas to me, and has even helped to guide me to my career choice that I am going to school for now.
I just wanted to share the good news with you all, and offer advise to anyone here that is still caught in the system (suspended/revoked/denied). The drivers license restoration process is challenging and complicated. On top of that Michigan is one of the most difficult states in the nation in which to complete this process. So anyone who is reading this please keep that in mind when you're behind the wheel.
 
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ozzrokk

ozzrokk

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Congrats brother............ Glad that long road has brought you back.............. Also want to add that kudos to you for saying this and giving this advice for all to think about before they learn the hard way...........
 
resinhead

resinhead

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It feels great to get support from the community! Your posts all made me smile! I can't wait to finally meet some of y'all now that I have wings! Whether it be at a rollitup gathering, or an expo or a cup, this freedom will allow me to finally get more involved in the movement, and expand my social network.
 
GregS

GregS

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This from May, 2013. Police must demonstrate impairment, which begs the question, "What does mj impairment look like, and how do the police identify it?" Speaking for myself, I have had a number of, umm, pleasant roadside conversations with them, and they did not indicate in any way that I was under the influence. Tee hee:

LANSING, Mich. (AP) — The Michigan Supreme Court ruled Tuesday that medical marijuana users aren't automatically breaking the law if they're caught driving after using the drug.

The court unanimously overturned an appeals court decision in the case of a Grand Traverse County man, Rodney Koon. He was stopped in 2010 for speeding — going nearly 30 mph over the limit.

Koon admitted having smoked medical marijuana earlier, and a blood test revealed the drug in his system.

It's illegal for Michigan drivers to consume marijuana. But the state high court said medical marijuana users have some protection. The court says police must show that a driver actually was "under the influence" of marijuana for a charge to stick.

Michigan voters approved medical use of marijuana in 2008.

The medical marijuana law "shields registered patients from prosecution for the internal possession of marijuana," the judges said.

At the same time, the law prohibits driving "while under the influence of marijuana." But it fails to specify what level of marijuana in the body constitutes being "under the influence," the opinion said.

The court suggested lawmakers consider setting a marijuana limit, similar to a blood alcohol level.

"It goes almost without saying that the (medical marijuana law) is an imperfect statute, the interpretation of which has repeatedly required this Court's intervention," the justices said. "Indeed, this case could have been easily resolved if the (law) had provided a definition of 'under the influence.'"
 
Skylor

Skylor

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I thought smoking while driving went out of style back in the 1990's, lol...besides its too easy to get serious injured with these "safer" air bag cars we have today, that alone should stop anybody from toking while driving. Once those air bags blow off, anything can happen, even death. U gotta pay 100% attention to the roads all the time while driving, IMO
 
Skylor

Skylor

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GregS said:
This from May, 2013. Police must demonstrate impairment, which begs the question, "What does mj impairment look like, and how do the police identify it?" Speaking for myself, I have had a number of, umm, pleasant roadside conversations with them, and they did not indicate in any way that I was under the influence. Tee hee:

LANSING, Mich. (AP) — The Michigan Supreme Court ruled Tuesday that medical marijuana users aren't automatically breaking the law if they're caught driving after using the drug.

The court unanimously overturned an appeals court decision in the case of a Grand Traverse County man, Rodney Koon. He was stopped in 2010 for speeding — going nearly 30 mph over the limit.

Koon admitted having smoked medical marijuana earlier, and a blood test revealed the drug in his system.

It's illegal for Michigan drivers to consume marijuana. But the state high court said medical marijuana users have some protection. The court says police must show that a driver actually was "under the influence" of marijuana for a charge to stick.

Michigan voters approved medical use of marijuana in 2008.

The medical marijuana law "shields registered patients from prosecution for the internal possession of marijuana," the judges said.

At the same time, the law prohibits driving "while under the influence of marijuana." But it fails to specify what level of marijuana in the body constitutes being "under the influence," the opinion said.

The court suggested lawmakers consider setting a marijuana limit, similar to a blood alcohol level.

"It goes almost without saying that the (medical marijuana law) is an imperfect statute, the interpretation of which has repeatedly required this Court's intervention," the justices said. "Indeed, this case could have been easily resolved if the (law) had provided a definition of 'under the influence.'"
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Yep, that is that huge court ruling from last year. That was the best thing to happen with MM in Michigan, IMO....it does not mean we can drive while high, it just means if one has some THC in their blood, that doesn't alone prove they are under the influence.

I'm against setting a certain limit, we have field sobriety checks, those alone should be able to tell, if a person can walk straight, then they are not too high to safety drive a car, IMO

This is where I feel Canada is more fair, its possible to smoke weed in the car and not automatically get arrest for drug driving. I say that cause a couple of years back in Winnipeg Canada the police had a DUI check point set up and some dude lit up a joint up while talking with a police officer. After about an hour later the cops let him go since he past all the sobriety tests (he had only one toke of it) and the joint was under the limit the police over there need to make an arrest....that stuff would never ever happen here in the "free USA"
 
resinhead

resinhead

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GregS said:
This from May, 2013. Police must demonstrate impairment, which begs the question, "What does mj impairment look like, and how do the police identify it?" Speaking for myself, I have had a number of, umm, pleasant roadside conversations with them, and they did not indicate in any way that I was under the influence. Tee hee:

LANSING, Mich. (AP) — The Michigan Supreme Court ruled Tuesday that medical marijuana users aren't automatically breaking the law if they're caught driving after using the drug.

The court unanimously overturned an appeals court decision in the case of a Grand Traverse County man, Rodney Koon. He was stopped in 2010 for speeding — going nearly 30 mph over the limit.

Koon admitted having smoked medical marijuana earlier, and a blood test revealed the drug in his system.

It's illegal for Michigan drivers to consume marijuana. But the state high court said medical marijuana users have some protection. The court says police must show that a driver actually was "under the influence" of marijuana for a charge to stick.

Michigan voters approved medical use of marijuana in 2008.

The medical marijuana law "shields registered patients from prosecution for the internal possession of marijuana," the judges said.

At the same time, the law prohibits driving "while under the influence of marijuana." But it fails to specify what level of marijuana in the body constitutes being "under the influence," the opinion said.

The court suggested lawmakers consider setting a marijuana limit, similar to a blood alcohol level.

"It goes almost without saying that the (medical marijuana law) is an imperfect statute, the interpretation of which has repeatedly required this Court's intervention," the justices said. "Indeed, this case could have been easily resolved if the (law) had provided a definition of 'under the influence.'"
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Thank you Greg for dropping knowledge. That is much more relevant to the thread title then my post :-).
When I got my second DUI (for smoking while driving), the cops testemony that he smelled "burnt marijauna" was enough to convict me. 11 years ago. Long before MMMP.
 
Skylor

Skylor

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Can't find about Winnipeg on Google but do recall seeing it on CBC tv--we get ch 9 Windsor here in the Detroit area

I did find this thou.....
Niagara This Week - St. Catharines
Officers arrested several drivers and paid close attention to one who admitted to smoking marijuana as Niagara Regional Police kicked off the 2014 holiday season RIDE program.

On Saturday, 12 officers participating in the Festival RIDE event were set up at checkpoints in Niagara Falls and St. Catharines. Among them was media officer Const. Derek Watson, who provided a virtual ride-along to followers on Twitter throughout the night.

Over the course of the night, officers checked about 400 vehicles and gave roadside tests to 34 drivers. This resulted in four drivers being arrested for having more than 80 mg of alcohol in their blood and other six having their licence suspended for three days.

Another three drivers were arrested for impaired driving.

Officers also issued 18 provincial offence notices for offences ranging from G2 drivers with alcohol in their system to document related offences.

The drivers arrested for impaired driving and over 80 mg had their licences suspended for 90 days, their vehicles impounded for seven days, and were given future court dates to answer to the charges.

Police say they issued a ticket to a man who was texting on his phone as he entered the checkpoint.

And a second driver, when asked if he consumed alcohol, responded by saying "I won't lie, I haven't had anything do drink, but I did smoke a couple of joints".

Police say the investigation revealed the marijuana had been smoked earlier in the day, and the male was not impaired.

Police are reminding drivers it's an offence to operate a motor vehicle while impaired by alcohol or any illegal or prescription drugs.
 
Skylor

Skylor

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resinhead said:
Thank you Greg for dropping knowledge. That is much more relevant to the thread title then my post :-).
When I got my second DUI (for smoking while driving), the cops testemony that he smelled "burnt marijauna" was enough to convict me. 11 years ago. Long before MMMP.
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Oh I believe it, it doesn't take much now of days
 
GregS

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resinhead said:
Thank you Greg for dropping knowledge. That is much more relevant to the thread title then my post :-).
When I got my second DUI (for smoking while driving), the cops testemony that he smelled "burnt marijauna" was enough to convict me. 11 years ago. Long before MMMP.
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Any time.
 
knucklehead bob

knucklehead bob

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resinhead said:
I have been lurking here for years. Long before I became a member. I have been reading all of your posts, and feel like I kind of know some of you guys. The michigan patients section is my favorite place on the web.
I never posted in the introduce yourself thread, but i want to tell you all a little bit about myself, because i feel great due to the good news I just got.
I recently just overcame the biggest obstacle that I have had in my life. Monday I got my drivers license back after over a decade without it. I'm still riding cloud 9 from the great news.
I had 2 DUIs when I was 18 and 19. One for drinking and driving, and one for smoking and driving. In this area, my story is not uncommon.
It took a lot of hard work, unimaginable stress, thousands of miles walked, participation in the 12 step program (that i hate) around $10000 and a lawyer to get my privlages restored.
It has been 34 months since I drank any alcohol, and I owe the disappearance of that craving to my lady Mary Jane. She has always been a part of my life but I found a new respect for my life and hers when I got legal and began cultivating. It opened up new ideas to me, and has even helped to guide me to my career choice that I am going to school for now.
I just wanted to share the good news with you all, and offer advise to anyone here that is still caught in the system (suspended/revoked/denied). The drivers license restoration process is challenging and complicated. On top of that Michigan is one of the most difficult states in the nation in which to complete this process. So anyone who is reading this please keep that in mind when you're behind the wheel.
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Man-o-man do I know the feeling . The similarity of my situation to yours is only different in time . Restored on 5-19-14 , yee haa ! Amen on the restoration process ! ! ! Congratulations on abstaining from Ethyl , working on #13 myself and keep up the good work :blsmoke:
 
GregS

GregS

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This just in:

Gov. Snyder signs laws to go after drugged drivers
Associated Press 9:57 a.m. EDT October 15, 2014
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LANSING – Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder has signed laws to target drivers under the influence of drugs after two young men were killed in a head-on collision by a repeat drugged driver.

The legislation signed Tuesday allows police to conduct a preliminary roadside analysis for controlled and other intoxicating substances. A conditional bond is to be placed on motorists arrested for drugged driving and the information entered into a law enforcement database.

Legislators sponsored the bills after the July 2013 deaths of Russell Ward and Koby Raymo in St. Clair County.

A woman who crossed the center line and struck their vehicle had been pulled over six times in five years for drugged driving, but officers didn't know she had multiple offenses because they weren't listed in the Law Enforcement Information Network.
 
Dr.Pecker

Dr.Pecker

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That don't sound right. How could someone get pulled over six times for drugged driving and not be arrested for dui? " A woman who crossed the center line and struck their vehicle had been pulled over six times in five years for drugged driving, but officers didn't know she had multiple offenses because they weren't listed in the Law Enforcement Information Network."
 
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