Miracle Grow

Mg on a water water water feed regime is great for veg. but i only add canna rizho during veg as the N VALUE OF 24 IS ENOUGH for veg
once you go to 12/12 keep the watering regime but drop one watering. but add canna AnB AT 1/4 STRENGTH one mill of both to 1 mill water. once in flowering drop to water/ feed/ and do not go past 1/2 strenght of AnB wait till 4 weeks in then add canna pk13 if you like. the for the last 3 week drop the nutes every feed till you're back to water and flush the mg for the last 2 weeks
also day 1 water. day 2 let dry/ day 3 let dry. day 4 check/ this works well with large pots 10 liters and above with runoff.. honestly i grown in coco/ laoms soil/ also hydro and i give my word mg will work as well when treated right. remember often watering s are the key with low nutes. i have made big mistakes made with coco because of the cal/mag issue but had some great crops and love the stuff. but i would never come on here and say do not use it. i would just give advice. most problem in any medium are down to the human involved in the growing process..also i have had best results in all mediums with canna products and and AN for cal/mag

spitsbuds said:

Mg on a water water water feed regime is great for veg. but i only add canna rizho during veg as the N VALUE OF 24 IS ENOUGH for veg
once you go to 12/12 keep the watering regime but drop one watering. but add canna AnB AT 1/4 STRENGTH one mill of both to 1 mill water. once in flowering drop to water/ feed/ and do not go past 1/2 strenght of AnB wait till 4 weeks in then add canna pk13 if you like. the for the last 3 week drop the nutes every feed till you're back to water and flush the mg for the last 2 weeks
also day 1 water. day 2 let dry/ day 3 let dry. gay 4 check/ this works well with large pots 10 liters and above with runoff.. honestly i grown in coco/ laoms soil/ also hydro and i give my word mg will work as well when treated right. remember often watering s are the key with lo nutes. i have big mistakes made with coco because of the cal/mag issue but had some great crops and love the stuff. but i would never come on here and say do not use it.just give advice. most problem in any medium are don to the human involved in the growing process..also i have had best results in all mediums with canna products and and AN for cal/mag

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it should say "1mill of both to 1 liter of water...sorry

There is no Canna A/B for soil...its Terra Vega and Terra Flores, both of which are complete nutrients except they lack Copper.

hey guys! ive been reading alot about mg on this site because im currently using the mg seedling mix. im in the first week of growth and shes lookin good so far.i figured i would transplant next week, what would be a good soil to change too,keep in concideration im a noobi. thanks yall

Harrekin said:

There is no Canna A/B for soil...its Terra Vega and Terra Flores, both of which are complete nutrients except they lack Copper.

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ye ive been a bit unsure about this for some time. as ive had great results from AnB. i brought it to mg when i stopped using coco. ive seen the terra range and wondered if they would be better. so would it be better to swap to this range haarekin

Move to larger permanent container? Use what ever is easily available . I just sift last years soil and use MG. Worked for everything this year. My water was 7.6 tried Azalea red MG after 2 months of blue and shocked plants big time. So decide what you can work with and stick with it. Everything except NPK is placebo effect! $4.94 for 1.5 lb fit my budget Miracle Gro from cradle to grave they never know the difference.

grizlbr said:

Everything except NPK is placebo effect!

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LMAO. I hope you're exaggerating there.

Every single decent hydroponic grower - to say nothing of the greats - knows that the micro-nutrients are critical to growing a healthy and thriving plant. NPK are the macro-nutrients, sure. You can't grow at all without them in the right ratios. But if your plants are starved of micro-nutrients they'll grow poorly if at all.

Placebo effect... that's just funny.

we'll see how my MG 5 gallon pots are going to turn out , so far so good . except for one lady died because of root rot:/ R.I.P. !

SmokingOnDank said:

we'll see how my MG 5 gallon pots are going to turn out , so far so good . except for one lady died because of root rot:/ R.I.P. !

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nice to see ppl responding to a 6 year old thread

Awsome sensisense, reps to you.... You put it out there perfectly! been useing A soil mix with a .05-0-0 npk, I add bat guano,sea kelp, worm casting and blood meal (npk 12-0-0) to the soil, as well as a extra scoop or two of perolite. I like my plants to be almost dry the day following a water of feed. I do feed them through both veg and bloom. However, I only feed them what is allready in the soil. Through veg, I cold brew Worm castings with UN-sulfered molassas using a fish pump and air stone. During bloom I do the same with the kelp and bat guano. When harvest time arives I will do a minor flush. This is done not to clear salts or un-used chem nutes, but to get the soil preped for the next gen of clone and seed plants (if any). Also being a cheap sob, I put my used soil through a dimond plate (type) screen and remove most of the old roots. I then put the soil In my worm beds and re-vermicompost it. I transplant clones in it!! I've got soil mix I've re-used for several years this way. It is a mess and alot of work, but, that is what and how we do.peace

If you must use miricle grow nutes they do make a 20-20-20 comercial nute. I've used it by dil by 1/4 and increasing the feedings didn't burn but did cause lockout. Had to do a radical flush that put me back to no nutes. $ wasted. Alot of salts in this garbage!

My grow going amazing using mg organic and perlite than my last grow with fox farms! Havent looked back

i have a cousin who has grown all out guerilla grown 7-14 footers with nothing more than miracle grow flower and garden soil and water during droughts! thats all since 1987. he averages about a pound give or take per plant and then sells it all off and being an idiot as he is when not growing in the off season he blows it all on cocaine! oh well all i know is it works cause i have 8 plants in it adding nothing but water when good n dry they are 4 ft one is a little behind at 3.5 ft all from 12/12 from week 2 and are coming along great in week 7 with nothing else added for the 6 months it states on the bag! i also have 6 in hydro with gh flora nutes less than use on bottle started at 1/4 strength that are 12/12 from 2 weeks and are huge around 1ft and starting to branch out with huge fan leaves in week 2 of 12/12. my water ph is usually ph'd to 6.0 for hydro and soil use but have had to use straight tap and is 7.0 from tap with no problems! good luck sorry for the long write up but i dont get on much! peace!

MG all the way

Dont use any nutes in your vegging stage and add a tea spoon of cal-mag in your water and you will be good.

If you start with MG nutes, not soil, then make sure you stick with it and adjust accordingly. Always start with 1/4 to 1/2 strength then add accordingly to veg/bloom needs with supplements as needed. Each strain requires a little more of something than the other strains does. Lights and mediums is another factor of how much to use as the PH is varied too. Big plants use more than little plants. Never use for clones till roots are plenty. Keep track (log/diary) of each feeding of amounts used. That way you can see where you are at for an average feeding. When having problems, flushing is always used as an neutral/cleaning of overly used nutes. So, if that plant is giving you problems, FLUSH and start over with less of what started your problem, if known. This is why MG is not for newbies. You need an habit of checking the plants 2x to 3x daily. When you are able to sleep, eat, and live like the plant, then you can go another route of growing. (hydroponics, coco, different strain etc.) If you change routines too much during the same grow and it dies and then you start something else without knowing what you did right with the last grow, you compounded the same problem with possibly new ones too. That's how you learn and get experience. That's the difference of green thumb and mud thumb. Works for me.

I grew some THC bomb Autos in Miracle Grow and had very decent results with 20%THC and 1.5 - 2 ounces per plant (£25 a plant with 600W). At 2 weeks the plants could be sexed and by 4 weeks they were 85CM Plus high with the onset of flowing. For the soil prep you need 9ltr MG with mixed in 1ltr of worm castings (10ltr) + some N(P10) K bat guano firt (tiny amount) with a hand scattering of perllite..

Watering: Use general tap water that has stood for 2 days (Ph8 -7.4 is ideal go into the pot)

Watering scheduled:
Week 2/10 250ml per every 3 days.
Week 4/10 400ml per every 4 days.
Add Bat guano tea. 75ml (with water mix)
Week 6/10 400ml every 5 days.
Add Bat guano tea. 100ml (with water mix)
Week 8/10 650ml for 7 days.
Week 10/10 650ml for 7 days

MG has time release chems in it. Every time you water it lets more chems go. The more water the more chems. Over watering will over chem the plants. If you use addition chems bio grow.bloom ect you will over chem the plant. All you need is tap water and bat shit tea.

Ventilation:
Plus, under floor ventilation. Raise your grow area one foot above the floor and enclose it as a cabinet or tent with foil on walls. 3 PC fans per 10 plants blowing air from underneath the grow platform into the bottom of the plants leaves (that's where the plants breath Co2 in from. Most C02 is lying in the 1 foot high area of the floor ready to utilized (it is heavier then air).
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A Top Opening hole 1ft by 2ft Sq in tent/cabinet top that is adjustable for temperature control

Heat:
Use a cool tube. 2 vents in and out with 4" fan on out side of cool tube pulling the air through it. (Cool cube needs to be about 140cm from floor.(adjustable height too)

Auto lighting scheduled
Weeks1-4 period (24/0)
Weeks 5-8 periods (15 on 1 off)---(7 on 1 off)
Week 9 (20/4)
Week10 (24.0)
Week 11 Last 4 days: no lights darkness (harvest)

Good luck

olblue26 said:

hey guys! ive been reading alot about mg on this site because im currently using the mg seedling mix. im in the first week of growth and shes lookin good so far.i figured i would transplant next week, what would be a good soil to change too,keep in concideration im a noobi. thanks yall

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I've used MG Organic Choice with success. Just add a little lime. Oh and some Epsom Salts.

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dannyboy602 said:

I've used MG Organic Choice with success. Just add a little lime. Oh and some Epsom Salts.

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I've used mg for my first fee grows it worked good but now I just use a good soil mix and a couple other nutes for bloom..better results or more experienced idk...