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shiftythunderf*ck

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I use the all purpose chem nute. have a hydro setup and it works great. people just cant leave the plant alone and either fert too early (before 2 wks) or put way too much. 1/4 strength should be used for the 1st feed.
 
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suby2002

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shiftythunderf*ck said:
I use the all purpose chem nute. have a hydro setup and it works great. people just cant leave the plant alone and either fert too early (before 2 wks) or put way too much. 1/4 strength should be used for the 1st feed.
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Ok Guys,

Getting back to Miracle Grow. I bought a couple really nice Hindu Kush Clones from a local dispensary in my area. The clones where in a rockwool medium, and where in excellent condition.
I put them in a 10" plastic pot and used the Miracle Grow Potting Soil (really good lighting:weed:. It looked pretty good out of the bag. Had a very dark color with perlite and 3 months of nutrients already in the bag.
Honestly guys, especially for newbies, do not use this soil for cutting or seeds. There is way to many nutes that create something called nute burn. You can tell nute burn by the decelerated growth and upward or downward apearence at the ends of the leaves. They kinda seem a little crispy(dry) at the ends. I know their are alot of people out there use miracle gro, but for nubies please stay away. Also, miracle gro retain water very well, maybe too well. For newbies that want to water there plants on a daily, stay awy from this soil. So before it was to late, I decided to flush the roots and use a different soil medium.
I decided to use a soil called Kelloggs Patio Potting Soil(or something like that). It's a very inexspensive and well mixed organic potting soil. I really recomend it. It has bat guana, worm castings, chicken and poo etc., and it's cheap. I also decided to use a little B-1 solution, during my first waterings, to prevent less shock to the plant. It's honestly been like 4 hours, and the palnts look way better already.
In a week I will fertilize with fish fertilizer, and a little super thrive to really give it a boost during veg stage. Havn't decided what I want to use during flowering stage.
Anyways, for all you newbies out there, please stay away from Miraclr Gro, unless you know what your doing. Good luck to all.
 
potifull

potifull

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so then i have a question would it be better to use the miracle-grow liquid plant foot which is hight in nitrogen (N) at 8% for at least the veg. state? or am i just confuseing everone here....lol ( sorry just starting out with this )
 
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suby2002

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potifull said:
so then i have a question would it be better to use the miracle-grow liquid plant foot which is hight in nitrogen (N) at 8% for at least the veg. state? or am i just confuseing everone here....lol ( sorry just starting out with this )
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No probs. I pretty much a newbie also. I have 4 grows under my belt. Trust me growing pot indoors takes some practice. I wouldn't use anything made by miracle grow. Try to use from a company that has a good reputation for growing herb. I would recommend Fox Farms. Any nutrients that you use, make sure you dilute the solution to about a 1/4 to 1/2 strength. If you are going to use Miracle grow, I would probably go with 1/4 solution. In reality, you really don't need any nutes for the first couple of weeks. However, I do use nutes during the earlier stages of growth. Try using Alaska Fish Fertilzer. Make sure to dilute to 1/4 or 1/2 strenght. Can buy this fert at Home Depot. Only drawback, it does stink a bit.
So how far along are you so far?
 
crusty420

crusty420

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Well i just came back from the store and was reading the back of the bag and thought i would do some quick research before i used it and well i am glad i did that i will be returning the bag and getting something else i will just go to the hydro store and see if they have fox farm or has anybody here heard of happy frog...my buddy suggested that.
 
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autoflowa

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Ok Miracle Grow is fine if you do not mind not growing to your fullest potential. If you?re running HID lamps in your space you know how expensive it can be. Do you really want to waste all your hard earned money and time on a substantially low yield crop? If you answered no keep reading I will tell you why Miracle Grow is not the best choice for growing marijuana. However if you insist on feeding your plants with Miracle Grow or planting them in Miracle Grow Soil I have advice for you too.

Miracle grow is not designed to meet the needs of marijuana the results can only be second rate at best when using an inferior fertilizer. The cannabis plant requires high concentrations of (N) Nitrogen during the vegetative stage and high doses of (K) potassium during bud production. These are two of the most essential of nutrients a strong cannabis plant needs to thrive. Not only does cannabis need these compounds to grow, it also needs them at the correct time to be used efficiently.

When growing in soil ("Big mess YUK") as opposed to hydroponics many growers will take shortcuts in the beginning that will have greater long term effects on the end result. One of the most well known mistakes by armature growers is to use ready mixed soils. These are soils with trace minerals and vitamins already in the soil. Many of these products come pre-mixed with a time release system to release the fertilizers into the plants root system over time. This will lead to burning your plants later on when you fertilize them and then the soil does the same. As for the stand alone fertilizers by Miracle Grow they do not contain enough (N) Nitrogen or (K) Potassium and are usually not the best choice for more serious growers. Check your fertilizers for the fertilizer concentrations listing. A fertilizer marked 10-15-20 would contain 10% Nitrogen 15% Phosphorus and 20% Potassium. During vegetative growth look for a fertilizer that contains higher doses of (N) Nitrogen and one with a higher (K) Potassium dosage for flowering mature plants. Also you may want to consider the trace elements a cannabis plant needs for a healthy life cycle such as (Zn) zinc, (Cu) copper, (Mn) Manganese and (Fe) iron. Most of these will be included in a good fertilizer. Try using a "soiless mix" which is simply soil with no nutritional content. This is like starting with a clean slate. Soiless mixes can be bought or mixed by hand. They usually consist of sphagnum peat moss, vermiculite and perlite. In addition you can add fertilizers to the soil during mixing time or later on. I recomend bat bat guano and or worm castings if using soil.As a personal preference I choose Advanced Nutrients line of nutrients for my hydroponic system and I am impressed at the results. The reason being they are designed to grow cannabis like no other. Treat your plants with respect and dignity and they will return the favor come harvest time.

One more thing yellowing leaves does not always indicate nitrogen deficiency. If growing indoors always make sure your container is large enough to support the developing root mass. Large plants in small containers can yeild effects similar to that of Nitrogen Deficiency (i.e curled leaf tips, yellowing of lower fan leaves). Many growers will assume the plant needs nitrogen and in turn burn the plant.

Happy Harvest
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fyi organic mg soil doest contain anything besides nitrogen as far as i know
 
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autoflowa

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suby2002 said:
Ok Guys,

Getting back to Miracle Grow. I bought a couple really nice Hindu Kush Clones from a local dispensary in my area. The clones where in a rockwool medium, and where in excellent condition.
I put them in a 10" plastic pot and used the Miracle Grow Potting Soil (really good lighting:weed:. It looked pretty good out of the bag. Had a very dark color with perlite and 3 months of nutrients already in the bag.
Honestly guys, especially for newbies, do not use this soil for cutting or seeds. There is way to many nutes that create something called nute burn. You can tell nute burn by the decelerated growth and upward or downward apearence at the ends of the leaves. They kinda seem a little crispy(dry) at the ends. I know their are alot of people out there use miracle gro, but for nubies please stay away. Also, miracle gro retain water very well, maybe too well. For newbies that want to water there plants on a daily, stay awy from this soil. So before it was to late, I decided to flush the roots and use a different soil medium.
I decided to use a soil called Kelloggs Patio Potting Soil(or something like that). It's a very inexspensive and well mixed organic potting soil. I really recomend it. It has bat guana, worm castings, chicken and poo etc., and it's cheap. I also decided to use a little B-1 solution, during my first waterings, to prevent less shock to the plant. It's honestly been like 4 hours, and the palnts look way better already.
In a week I will fertilize with fish fertilizer, and a little super thrive to really give it a boost during veg stage. Havn't decided what I want to use during flowering stage.
Anyways, for all you newbies out there, please stay away from Miraclr Gro, unless you know what your doing. Good luck to all.
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wow this is f'ing interesting! im using mg organic and everything u described about da crispy twisty leaves is happening FUCK im also getting slight yellowing
 
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suby2002

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autoflowa said:
wow this is f'ing interesting! im using mg organic and everything u described about da crispy twisty leaves is happening FUCK im also getting slight yellowing
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Just because your using miracle gro soil doesn't necessarily mean that the reason for the problem with your plants are contributed by that.
Also you are using the miracle gro organic. I personally have never used this soil. It may work well.
 
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suby2002

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Just to give everyone a update, I have finished with my vegatative stage and am know on a 12/12 cycle for flowering. Plants are looking pretty good. I decided to use Fox Farms Tiger Bloom for this period. Just to let you know guys, this is pretty good stuff. I will have some pics up soon.
 
AirAnt

AirAnt

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Miracle Grow is not a good soil for growing weed. I have had several problems with my latest grow simply because I was in too much of a hurry to find a better medium and so chose MG. It was infested with gnats that I just can't get rid of and now am going to have to completely interrupt my plan for a constant grow cycle so that I can eliminate them. It stays wet waaay too long and now it's even worse because I added sand on top due to the gnats and it doesn't do anything to stop the gnats but it's great for making a shield barrier that prevents water from getting into the soil properly. Now I've got yellow leaves with big brown spots that are creeping all over the plant. I've got them on a 6/12 cycle to try to speed things up but I still don't think they're going to make it to completion. Which is a shame, because out of about 15 plants I ended up with 10 females. Unfortunately they are growing in Miracle Grow and will all either have to be harvested before they are ready or at least hurried out of their full growth potential.

Two of my biggest mistakes I learned from this go' round; water in less amounts more often and never, ever use Miracle Grow again.
 
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Redeflect

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I used Miracle Grow on my first grow... BEST PLANT I'VE EVER HAD. But of course i used almost 50% vermiculite (so the plant didn't burn). Every grow i've used with full MG has nute burned. MG is good soil if you dilute it.
 
fried at 420

fried at 420

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nope i love mg works fine
dirt is dirt
i even have a 1 foot tall plant growing in MG from last summer
growing fine
i dont agree with the low yeild fact
cuz it has nothing 2 do with soil it has 2 do with nutes
idk about the ph in the soil
the MG im currently using is fresh MG Graden Soil
 
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Cheapgrower

Active Member
WOW I have been looking for this MIRACLE GROW! Ok the last time I grew I used One t5 florcesent light which by the way I hated a 5 gallon bucket miracle grow potting mix and yeilding like 2 and ounces but that was with that type of light only put out like 8 k for lumens now im using 1000 watt hps 126,000 lumens buddy MIRACLE GROW WORKS FOR SURE. but you have to be careful it has time release on it it feed its for 3 months so dont try rushing them let them grow for 3 months fluch well and then make sure you dry out completly then cure or else just like any other soil or anything with ferts you will have that chlorphyl taste.


IT IS AMAZING but I def dont think its near the best its the only thing I have ever used.
 
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Jaiixd

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i use miracle gro soil and ive never had a problem...fertilizer on the other hand I use miracle gro ferti and it killed my plant within hours..and my plant was about a foot tall at this point...but I beleive its because I got it on the actual plant and not the soil
 
PINN3R

PINN3R

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i dont know much about the soil but i can tell u that i used there plat food and my plants are dying . i think this is most likely due ti the fact that they are only 2 weeks. i should have waited at least a month but of course being new to growing i didnt know that at the time.:wall:
 
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