Mini Aeroponic Garden

Spliffious said:

wow. thanks for all the info gypsy! I read it all, and not surprised from the start that this is one of the best threads on here. Great job.

I currently have 2 weeks invested in AG 200. I'm gonna send it back (36 day trial). I specifically Wanted to talk additional lights. I have two 24w=100w 6500k daylight floros hitting AG from both sides in clamp lamps. I also picked up a new daylight desk lamp from wal-mart. It has a flourex 27w=150w linear bulb. Flexes to funny positions for a lamp?

This is what happened when i turned it all on. The air temp in the room jumped 10 degrees. humid at 60%. The leaves on my biggest guy strted curling inward and looked burnt and dry. not open and recieving light. think it is an airflow prob. I put a draft guard under door, so no more air flow under door? I also have a desk fan on low.

What should i do to get water temp down. before root rot hits?

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AGSteve said:

are you giving them any nutes?

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Spliffious said:

yeah ppm is 1020... first week with nutes, doing the intro thing. then gonna jump to 1500-2000 ppm.... at least thats what ive read. This blue moon stuff is made at the hydro shop i visit often. The owner is cool and he designed it- it's so easy for 1 gallon of water, you just add an ounce of grow #1 and an oz. of #2 bottle and waaallllllaaaa done. It also has a buffer in it to not affect the ph.... I also have tested ph @ 5.5...

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AGSteve said:

the usual thing with young plants is nute burn. i think that would be my preferred guess but it could be heat or wind burn. empty the rez and just use ph'd water for a week to see if new growth is ok.

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Spliffious said:

dude i appreciate the feedback.

cool I guess it could be the fan hitting it hard from one angle?

or the new additional lights in clamp lamps are getting to hot? Causing warm temps in Water and in air quality.

I'm about to quit and invest in new LED's like the Illuminator UFO or procyon 100... And then make my reservoir myself....
I'm timid on the prices though? $400 for a good company backed ufo-$600 on procyon that puts out twice the light.

go big or go home!
Aerogarden pisses me off already!

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Spliffious said:

wow. thanks for all the info gypsy! I read it all, and not surprised from the start that this is one of the best threads on here. Great job.

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Spliffious said:

I currently have 2 weeks invested in AG 200. I'm gonna send it back (36 day trial).

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Spliffious said:

I specifically Wanted to talk additional lights.

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Spliffious said:

I have two 24w=100w 6500k daylight floros hitting AG from both sides in clamp lamps. I also picked up a new daylight desk lamp from wal-mart. It has a flourex 27w=150w linear bulb. Flexes to funny positions for a lamp?

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Spliffious said:

PIC 1- THE SETUP

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PIC 2- 14 DAYS (looks like lil hairs there?)

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PIC 3- 16-18 DAYS

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Spliffious said:

pic 4- White widow. (are those male signals?

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Spliffious said:

This is what happened when i turned it all on. The air temp in the room jumped 10 degrees. humid at 60%(DIDNT CHANGE MUCH). The leaves on my biggest guy started curling inward and looked burnt and dry in like two days. not open and receiving light, like others.

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Spliffious said:

I think it is a heat or airflow prob.

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Spliffious said:

I put a draft guard under door, so no more air flow under door (probably not good, but I want all light out. I also have a desk fan on low(could turn it up or back it up on oscillate.

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Spliffious said:

What should i do to get water temp down in tank and lamp heat down. before root rot hits?

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Spliffious said:

dude i appreciate the feedback.

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Spliffious said:

cool I guess it could be the fan hitting it hard from one angle?

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Spliffious said:

or the new additional lights in clamp lamps are getting to hot? Causing warm temps in Water and in air quality.

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Spliffious said:

I'm about to quit and invest in new LED's like the Illuminator UFO or procyon 100...

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Spliffious said:

And then make my reservoir myself....

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Spliffious said:

I'm timid on the prices though? $400 for a good company backed ufo-$600 on procyon that puts out twice the light.

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Dude, don't waste your money.. listen to me.. please...

I get nothing from telling you this... but you can save your hard earned cash...

Go to HTG and just order the light and cool tube with a fan....
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Spliffious said:

go big or go home!

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Spliffious said:

Aerogarden pisses me off already!

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GypsyBush said:

Steve is a great guy... he has good info....
Again I thank You guys, I've completely began to rely on yall's info. it's good stuff man!


Use the fan backwards.. not blowing on your plants... but rather drawing the heat away....

Ok that makes sense.


Gotta have ventilation...

The air not only has to circulate within the chamber, it must also be exchanged for fresh air...

So with a closet grow, what should I do for an exhaust? I Knocked a hole in the wall that goes I guess throughout the house. Hopefully be good enough for now! By the way, closet is in back of house.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

NO LEDs for the next 10 years bro... no yet....

Why not Led's yet. I've read into it a bit and there are a couple of solid company's backing there products. Illuminator looks so cool and you'll be saving on that bill?




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Dude, don't waste your money.. listen to me.. please...

I get nothing from telling you this... but you can save your hard earned cash...

Go to HTG and just order the light and cool tube with a fan....
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like the one you put in your tent? I will be doing almost an exact replica of your tent. I found one in my girls attic! Wrapped it in plastic and taped it up tight! I love it! i just can't find those damn zippers for the front yet. Where do I get stick on zippers? And Lowe's didn't have 4 inch can fan? where do i find?

You will not go anywhere without proper ventilation... and proper lighting...

I will ditch the cfl's

I hear you... and if you want to cure that, instead of upgrading 18.7 times.. listen to what I am saying...

Ditch the UFO Led plan...

But what about the procyon 100 being so amazing?
Get a real light.. it will give you real buds...

But... in the end it is your money and your grow... so go with what you know....

Problem- Im almost out of money! If I send AG back! I get $200.00 back. I Will be able to purchase one solid light system around $3-4oo.
How much will a cool tube run me?


But I would listen hard on this one....

Cheers...

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Spliffious said:

On a serious note. the cops came by yesterday, somebody hit a mailbox? My house i Rent used to be a grow house two years ago. Should I be at all worried? And Airport's near by, air traffic sometimes? Worry or not?

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Spliffious said:

Ok that makes sense.

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Spliffious said:

So with a closet grow, what should I do for an exhaust? I Knocked a hole in the wall that goes I guess throughout the house. Hopefully be good enough for now! By the way, closet is in back of house.

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Spliffious said:

Why not Led's yet. I've read into it a bit and there are a couple of solid company's backing there products. Illuminator looks so cool and you'll be saving on that bill?

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Spliffious said:

like the one you put in your tent? I will be doing almost an exact replica of your tent. I found one in my girls attic! Wrapped it in plastic and taped it up tight! I love it! i just can't find those damn zippers for the front yet. Where do I get stick on zippers? And Lowe's didn't have 4 inch can fan? where do i find?

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Spliffious said:

I will ditch the cfl's

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Spliffious said:

But what about the procyon 100 being so amazing?

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I am amazing too... do I get $600 ????

Spliffious said:

Problem- Im almost out of money! If I send AG back! I get $200.00 back. I Will be able to purchase one solid light system around $3-4oo.
How much will a cool tube run me?

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Spliffious said:

Wow I think I hit a soft Spot. Fuck LED's for now then. I will be looking into a cool tube. anywhere from 4-600 w. from my local hydro shop. And again thanks for solid info, keep it comin!

Peace Love and prosper!

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GypsyBush said:

That's really bad...
Hows that bad? Im brand new to this! I'm young and dumb, but I do have a couple of college degrees.(I just wish, I would have majored in weed college!), and think i can figure this hydro/aero deal out quick? Plus you! RENOB (boner spelt backwards), have trial tested. right, and this is prob the best site for AG enthusiasts to chat. so on that Note !
What are the dimensions of your space?
Right now. it's 3'x3'and about 12' high, tight closet. but if roomate moves in w/ girlfreind this month. I would have a small office room 12'x6'. To place tent in the perfect corner open closet.
You need adequate ventilation... or don't even try it...
the room temp lowered w/ new 6"x4" hole in wall. it's like 40-50 degees outside right now too, so the house is cool inside. i would prob, have heat situation in summer when house is muggy.
Did you buy the snake oil too...???
They are just not ready yet... but hey... if you got a spare $600 I would love for you to prove me wrong...
I don't have the cash for Led's anyway? and im scetchy about all this right now! first timer shakes.
But I thought you were trying to get some bud on a budget...
I am on a budget kindof. I just really don't want to waste my time on yielding nothing in AG!
Is it Panda film... white on one side and black on the other?
not panda film. but a $18.00, 25ft roll of 6 mil black plastic from lowes. it's black on black..... Whoops..... no white inside for reflectant compatibility. ohh well, it has no holes in it and it is almost air tight. I have the front, more like a drape right now.
Where did you get those zippers at? Im bout to just order them offline somewhere....
If you skimp on ventilation... you will fail.. sorry...
I really need to figure out my ventilation situation. 14" desk fan isn't cutting it.

I am amazing too... do I get $600 ????
You should get paid! you're a scientist for medicinal users and Stealthy AG grows.

My 600 digital HPS/MH with cool tube shipped to the end of the world Alaska was $311... good price indeed.

Check the prices... HTG rocks... but remember to support your local store too...
Yeah the local garden supply shop in the neighboring city is so fun to go too. It's really bright w/ lots of technology and growing mediums. The dude that owns the place makes his own nutrients and gave me fatty discount on product. Sweet man!

wanted to tell ya thanks gypsy for pronto replies, i dont wanna waste anyoneone's time. Yours or mine! But I do wanna learn this fast....! so please be patient w/ me. I play online to much and am an impulse buyer with too many new ideas. I'm dying to get on top of this. I guess cuz it's such an expensive first investment?

F.Y.I. I contacted aerogarden customer service last week on thurs. and finally got through to a lady(it took 3-30 min failed attempts w/ shitty busy music). told her the AG motor made noise and died, also told her that 2 of 3 floros were already flickering, and fading black at bulbs base. She promptly said she was concerned and shipped me a newly designed quiter pump, 2 more bulbs, and a salsa seed kit. I did mention that I was in mid grow. Free shit is fun! You should give it a shot!

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Spliffious said:

Hows that bad? ...

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GypsyBush said:

I just meant you shouldn't be relying on newbs for info.. that is all...

I am more than willing to help, but I am just as new to this as you...

Find an experienced grower's thread like Al's or Stink Buds and follow it...

The blind leading the blind has never been a good proposition...

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Spliffious said:

Ive posted a few pics.
Yellow guy is bagseed and @ 3 weeks veg.
2 others are WW and @ 2 weeks veg.
24/0 lights first 2 weeks
18/6 lighting now.
PH leveled at 6.1.
Nutes at 1420. (I'm think'in to high?)
Temp between 70-80.
humid 60% mostly.
1 desk fan circulating air in closet.
Have two large airstones and pumps in AG.

(should I take the foil off the wall?) Heat?
0r do
I need a exhaust fan in top of closet pullin air out into attic?

My fresh airflow is bad, unless I open the door, But that defeats the purpose of being stealthy and quiet.

( I just recently punched a hole in the wall for air).Instead of drawing it from under the door. Put a draft guard under to seal it off good(iwas surprised in the muggyness of closet and increase in heat.

Ahhhhhh help...I kiss ass...kiss-ass

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Thundercat said:

Hey splifious, if you want us to check out your thread, you have to post a link to it. Also 1400 is way to high for plants that are only 2 weeks old. It is generally best not to give them any nutes for the first 1.5-2 weeks, unless they NEED them. Then you should start around 400ppm, and ramp up by 200-400 increments from there I believe. From the first pics you posted a couple pages back that was the first thing that I thought when you said you were at 1000ppm with them that young. I would give the plants a good flush with clean ph'd water, for a couple days, and see if you notice an improvement, then start around 600ppm prolly, if they do good, go up to 800 or 1000 the next week. Just my opinion. I'm fighting the ppm in my soil right now. All my plants are doing well, but several of them have been getting a tiny bit of burn on the leaves. I've flushed with clean water the last to times I watered. Before this I had just found out that my tap water had about 400ppm of what ever kinda shit in it. So I switched to distilled for the flush, and I'm trying to figure out a plan for the next couple months, maybe a filter, or maybe buying water, not sure yet. Any way, on another note, the copper colored spots on the leaves mean something, I can't remember what it is. I wanna was mag def. but I'm not positive. Just google common marijuana deficiencies you should be able to find the info on it. Hope this helps man. TC

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copper colored spots.

Here's the link to my new thread!

https://www.rollitup.org/aerogardeners/163104-sending-aerogarden-200-back-try.html

Thundercat said:

Sounds like you should be off to a good start man.

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