Midnitetoak's Mushroom Adventures

midnitetoak said:

Thank canndo I plan to try the regular pf tek with the cakes but I also nocced up some rye berry spawn bags that are now colonizing nicely that plan to spawn to h/poo in a few weeks...are you saying I should forgo the dunk & roll & spawn the cakes to bulk- ie case in a tray instead of fruiting them as cakes? I am beginning to understand how different this is from growing herb

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midnitetoak said:

Maybe and I'm am a noob at this but I believe I have a decent handle on how to colonize the h/poo in a mono tub. The spawn bags are colonizing quickly and maybe I bit off more than I can chew here but think I can pull off spawning to manure- it's a mono tub kit from outgrow. Yes I know it was implusive to order it but now that it's my plan for a bulk tub I'm going forward with it- not like I can save the pasteurized h/poo for a later time.
I read and enjoyed your popcorn tek candoo. I've just nocced up some rye berry grain jars last night & planned to try spawning them to small trays in a 70/30 coir/verm casing like your tek perscribes. Maybe next time I'll try PC-ing some popcorn jars.
Not sure I understand when you say the spawn bags are taking too long to colonize- they were nocced only about 13 days ago & are colonizing nicely- I've been shaking them around & kneading the bags to spread the myc. It seems to me 3-4 weeks is not an unacceptable time frame for a 1 lb bag of rye berry grain to colonize...when should I be spawning these to manure? At 100% colonization right? Also should I dunk the grains to rehydrate before spawning?

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midnitetoak said:

I have had some moderate success at growing bud so I've decided to delve into the world of mycology to see if I can cultivate some shrooms for the coming festy season. I hate dealing with greedy ass hippies with their crappy dried fungi sitting in a backpack for who knows how long? Dude doesn't care he just wants to make enough money to get to the next show...well fuck em-I'm hoping to have my own supply soon.
I have knocked up 12 BRF jars and 3 rye spawn bags. They are now starting to colonize so it will be a few more weeks before they are ready to be birthed. I plan to try spawning the rye grains to bulk in a mono tub. I've read enough about the PF tek to the point I feel like ive done it already but the bulk grow has got me a bit nervous.. Has anyone done a bulk spawn & if so are there any pointers you could share? Any help would be greatly appreciated

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Mr.Marijuana420 said:

bulk isn't much more difficult, go to shroomery, cruise the message boards and grow logs to get ideas, look at monos. some use 1:4 spawn: substrate. some use 1:1 for fast colonization. different folks do it different, as the expression goes "theres more than one way to skin a fish" I hate following teks right to the book, everything Ive learned has been from mistakes made, and then have a better understanding of whats going on afterward. If I follow a tek all the way, I am completely reliant and trusting of the information and trust Ill have good results, bc the person I learned the tek from did. Then my knowledge is confound to this one tek. The only way Ive ever learned to do something the right way, is by doing it the wrong way first. knowledge of theses mushrooms to me is more important than have a great yield the first go around. After all whats yield if u dnt know how u achieved it..ppls answer "I achieved it by following the tek. Ive had tubs that yield shitty, some that yield decent(far from good as I read of ppl getting 6-8 oz from there monos first flush) some contamed, but every time, knowledge was gained, and I never had a tub not produce fruits so that a plus, as long as I keep learning, fine tuning, and broadening the spectrum

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canndo said:

I am not saying not to try, just that it is always nice to start small enough and with enough replication that you are assured some yield for your first time or two. I find that the best bulk methods are involving straw. Straw is very selective, has good water holding potential, isn't something that came out of the back end of a horse and it works well on a variety of different mushrooms.

But you have to have a knack for straw. Were I you, I would simply colonize a bunch of grain, pour the grain out in a tray, case the tray and watch. After that, you should be able to do anythig you wish, including your own tek.
MM420, I like to make my own mistakes as well but there are some areas where one can make far more mistakes, never arriving at a decent conclusion, than one can do a thing correctly or successfuly.

It is often good to follow the cook book the first time when making a cake and going freeform once you have the basics down.

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