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A British Columbia man says Health Canada has handed out so many medical marijuana licences, it's cutting into his profit.
"This is how I make my living," said the man we're calling "Jack." "I grow it and sell it. Money is good — well, not as good as it used to be"
Jack is not his real name. He asked that we conceal his identity so that he could speak candidly about the medical marijuana black market, which he says is saturated with patients producing more than they need and selling off the rest.
"So many people do it now," Jack said. "I can go down a street in the neighbourhood and pick out probably 20-30 houses ... out of 50."
'I know a lot of people that paid doctors, and they didn't have a legitimate reason, but the doctor would give it to them anyway.' - "Jack," marijuana grower
Jack used to get almost $3,000 a pound for his bud but over the years dropped his prices to below $1,700 a pound because there's not as much demand.
"You get a doctor's note and they give you a licence to grow," he said. "I know a lot of people that paid doctors, and they didn't have a legitimate reason, but the doctor would give it to them anyway."
Jack, originally from Winnipeg, says he started growing marijuana illegally in the 1990s.
He got his first licence to grow seven or eight years ago under the former Medical Marijuana Access Regulations (MMAR). He said it was so easy, he got a relative to get one too so that he could grow and sell even more. Between the two licences he was allowed to grow 196 plants.
Today, he has a network of people who've obtained licences on his behalf so he can grow a lot more pot, at several locations. He declined to say how much more.
To evade detection and keep Revenue Canada at bay, he opened a unrelated legitimate business downtown to funnel his drug money so that it appears as though he's making a traditional living.
"Jack" says he makes a couple hundred thousand dollars a year trafficking medical marijuana. (CBC/Bob Keating)
New regulations struck down
There were 38,000 medical marijuana licences issued under MMAR before, in April 2014, Health Canada replaced it with the Marijuana for Medical Purposes Regulations (MMPR).
The new regulations prevented patients from growing their own pot, and forced them to get their medicine from one of 35 licensed producers across the country.
In February, a Federal Court judge ruled that was unconstitutional and gave the government six months to come up with yet another new set of rules.
The Access to Cannabis for Medical Purposes Regulations (ACMPR) was created in August, and essentially combines the old MMAR and MMPR programs into one.
In court documents, RCMP said medical marijuana patients consumed between three and five grams a day, which they could produce with 5-25 plants. Police said they were seeing cases where patients were getting prescriptions that would allow them to grow hundreds of plants that they then sell illegally.
Deputy Chief Mike Serr, drug abuse committee chair for the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police, says the federal government should stop authorizing patients to grow pot at home once cannabis is legalized. (CBC)
"We are seeing people are being authorized to possess very large volumes for medical purposes, and where it's almost impossible to smoke that much in a day the amount that they are being prescribed," said Deputy Chief Mike Serr, the drug committee chair for the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police.
According to the Canadian Medical Association, physicians don't undergo any kind of medical marijuana training before prescribing it to patients.
There are no guidelines, standards or definitive research with respect to proper dosages, so doctors can essentially prescribe whatever quantity they see fit.
Health Canada doesn't inspect or check up on the people to whom it gives licences.
Serr says that lack of oversight has allowed organized crime to infiltrate the system.
"It is very easy for someone to have, to designate a family friend without a criminal record to get, obtain a licence for him, and then they are the controlling person in that organization, they are the ones actually making the money," said Serr.
Manitoba family charged with drug trafficking
In February, a Winnipeg woman was charged with a number of drug trafficking offences alongside her husband, her daughter and her daughter's common-law partner. The woman was previously charged in 2004 and 2011, but the charges were stayed after her son took responsibility in the first case, and her husband in the second.
According to court documents, the woman obtained a Health Canada licence in 2014 that allowed her to grow 122 plants and store 5,490 grams of marijuana at home.
When Winnipeg police raided her residence earlier this year, they found more than double the amount permitted, as well as packaging materials, a money counter and a loaded hand gun.
Task force report out soon
The federal government in June appointed a nine-member task force to come up with recommendations on the legalization of marijuana. The task force is expected to release its report at the end of November.
"We want to give the government the best advice we can, taking into account everything we've heard and learned," said chair Anne McLellan. "We feel a lot of pressure in terms of trying to get this right, knowing, based on the experiences of others, that there will be surprises. It's not going to be perfect."
McLellan said the task force is working to identify and understand the risks involved with legalization, and looking for ways to address them.
"We are focused on what a legalized regulatory regime would look like in Canada. However, we are not oblivious to the fact that as we legalize in this country, there will be a lot of interest from other jurisdictions, including our neighbour to the south," said McLellan.
Conroy estimates about 100,000 people are now authorized to grow their own cannabis in Canada. He wants to see the government create separate legislation to allow them to continue to do so after it's legalized.
"You can grow 15 kilograms of tobacco in your home for yourself and anybody over the age of 18 if you want. You can make your own beer, wine and spirits for yourself and your family if you want," said Conroy.
Lawyer John Conroy estimates about 100,000 Canadians have licences to grow medical marijuana at home. (CBC)
Police want to see the grow-your-own practice end. They think there are enough licenced producers to accommodate patients.
"I respect the court's decision that says people should have the access, reasonable access, and to grow their own, but I do think Health Canada has come a long way in getting enough commercial producers to produce enough medical marijuana for everybody," Serr said.
"This is how I make my living," said the man we're calling "Jack." "I grow it and sell it. Money is good — well, not as good as it used to be"
Jack is not his real name. He asked that we conceal his identity so that he could speak candidly about the medical marijuana black market, which he says is saturated with patients producing more than they need and selling off the rest.
"So many people do it now," Jack said. "I can go down a street in the neighbourhood and pick out probably 20-30 houses ... out of 50."
'I know a lot of people that paid doctors, and they didn't have a legitimate reason, but the doctor would give it to them anyway.' - "Jack," marijuana grower
Jack used to get almost $3,000 a pound for his bud but over the years dropped his prices to below $1,700 a pound because there's not as much demand.
"You get a doctor's note and they give you a licence to grow," he said. "I know a lot of people that paid doctors, and they didn't have a legitimate reason, but the doctor would give it to them anyway."
Jack, originally from Winnipeg, says he started growing marijuana illegally in the 1990s.
He got his first licence to grow seven or eight years ago under the former Medical Marijuana Access Regulations (MMAR). He said it was so easy, he got a relative to get one too so that he could grow and sell even more. Between the two licences he was allowed to grow 196 plants.
Today, he has a network of people who've obtained licences on his behalf so he can grow a lot more pot, at several locations. He declined to say how much more.
To evade detection and keep Revenue Canada at bay, he opened a unrelated legitimate business downtown to funnel his drug money so that it appears as though he's making a traditional living.
"Jack" says he makes a couple hundred thousand dollars a year trafficking medical marijuana. (CBC/Bob Keating)
New regulations struck down
There were 38,000 medical marijuana licences issued under MMAR before, in April 2014, Health Canada replaced it with the Marijuana for Medical Purposes Regulations (MMPR).
The new regulations prevented patients from growing their own pot, and forced them to get their medicine from one of 35 licensed producers across the country.
In February, a Federal Court judge ruled that was unconstitutional and gave the government six months to come up with yet another new set of rules.
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The Access to Cannabis for Medical Purposes Regulations (ACMPR) was created in August, and essentially combines the old MMAR and MMPR programs into one.
In court documents, RCMP said medical marijuana patients consumed between three and five grams a day, which they could produce with 5-25 plants. Police said they were seeing cases where patients were getting prescriptions that would allow them to grow hundreds of plants that they then sell illegally.
Deputy Chief Mike Serr, drug abuse committee chair for the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police, says the federal government should stop authorizing patients to grow pot at home once cannabis is legalized. (CBC)
"We are seeing people are being authorized to possess very large volumes for medical purposes, and where it's almost impossible to smoke that much in a day the amount that they are being prescribed," said Deputy Chief Mike Serr, the drug committee chair for the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police.
According to the Canadian Medical Association, physicians don't undergo any kind of medical marijuana training before prescribing it to patients.
There are no guidelines, standards or definitive research with respect to proper dosages, so doctors can essentially prescribe whatever quantity they see fit.
Health Canada doesn't inspect or check up on the people to whom it gives licences.
Serr says that lack of oversight has allowed organized crime to infiltrate the system.
"It is very easy for someone to have, to designate a family friend without a criminal record to get, obtain a licence for him, and then they are the controlling person in that organization, they are the ones actually making the money," said Serr.
Manitoba family charged with drug trafficking
In February, a Winnipeg woman was charged with a number of drug trafficking offences alongside her husband, her daughter and her daughter's common-law partner. The woman was previously charged in 2004 and 2011, but the charges were stayed after her son took responsibility in the first case, and her husband in the second.
According to court documents, the woman obtained a Health Canada licence in 2014 that allowed her to grow 122 plants and store 5,490 grams of marijuana at home.
When Winnipeg police raided her residence earlier this year, they found more than double the amount permitted, as well as packaging materials, a money counter and a loaded hand gun.
Task force report out soon
The federal government in June appointed a nine-member task force to come up with recommendations on the legalization of marijuana. The task force is expected to release its report at the end of November.
"We want to give the government the best advice we can, taking into account everything we've heard and learned," said chair Anne McLellan. "We feel a lot of pressure in terms of trying to get this right, knowing, based on the experiences of others, that there will be surprises. It's not going to be perfect."
McLellan said the task force is working to identify and understand the risks involved with legalization, and looking for ways to address them.
"We are focused on what a legalized regulatory regime would look like in Canada. However, we are not oblivious to the fact that as we legalize in this country, there will be a lot of interest from other jurisdictions, including our neighbour to the south," said McLellan.
Conroy estimates about 100,000 people are now authorized to grow their own cannabis in Canada. He wants to see the government create separate legislation to allow them to continue to do so after it's legalized.
"You can grow 15 kilograms of tobacco in your home for yourself and anybody over the age of 18 if you want. You can make your own beer, wine and spirits for yourself and your family if you want," said Conroy.
Lawyer John Conroy estimates about 100,000 Canadians have licences to grow medical marijuana at home. (CBC)
Police want to see the grow-your-own practice end. They think there are enough licenced producers to accommodate patients.
"I respect the court's decision that says people should have the access, reasonable access, and to grow their own, but I do think Health Canada has come a long way in getting enough commercial producers to produce enough medical marijuana for everybody," Serr said.
I"m not gonna give it away! 
They cant