Mark Blyth, the economist who's making sense

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abandonconflict

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If I were jealous, I'd be as subordinate as you are. I'm pretty sure someone who is jealous wouldn't be exposing his hypocrisy. Bucky doesn't like when people do that, that's why I'm not in the Buck club, like you. He's like Trump in that he has no tolerance for opposition! You know this well, don't ya, ball washer?
So that's why you're so upset, you're jelly spread all over white bread.
 

abandonconflict

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Hypocrite.

Three on one and then you whine when someone else comes and calls out your childish antics.

Hypocrite.
Aww, poor gringo feels oppressed. Sounds like that time I practically begged you to stop insulting and be cool while you and 3 of your bigoted berniebro buddies ridiculed me. If you don't like it, you should stop sending me so many love letters. I mean, they don't really bother me but they're clearly not doing you any good, you're getting more and more upset every time you send one.
 

ttystikk

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Aww, poor gringo feels oppressed. Sounds like that time I practically begged you to stop insulting and be cool while you and 3 of your bigoted berniebro buddies ridiculed me. If you don't like it, you should stop sending me so many love letters. I mean, they don't really bother me but they're clearly not doing you any good, you're getting more and more upset every time you send one.
TL;Dr hypocrite.
 

abandonconflict

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he ended the vietnam war, visited china, started the EPA, and continued enforcing civil rights laws.
And he was a liberal. Yes he was a republican, so was Eisenhower, both liberals. These guys are stuck thinking in boxes. Inb4 they say I'm a Nixon supporter just because I am capable of stating facts.
 

PCXV

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Right. Because of course Mrs Clinton's miserable excuse for a campaign it policy platform had nothing to do with it.

When will you all get it through your heads that none of us are obligated to vote for anyone and that candidates have the job of convincing us they're the right ones for the job?

The idea that Bernie can be blamed for anything the DNC or the Clinton campaign did it failed to accomplish is as vacuous and stupid as it is self centered and presumptuous!
I don't think it is that far fetched in that context, and I qualified it with "partially" to make room for other miscalculations. I am saying that if the DNC was using Bernie to sheepdog, that it was poorly planned and executed and a major miscalculation by the establishment. Bernie's message undermined the establishment, unfair media coverage and the controversy of rigging of the debates/primaries further alienated Bernie supporters from the Democratic Party. My argument/thought is within the context of the sheepdog theory.
 

SneekyNinja

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PCXV

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Not hardly. The Democrats are at best center right and can most closely be described as analogous to a Nixonian Republican.

The reason Bernie was so popular was and remains due to his policy positions, an attribute most of you are studiously ignoring in the myopic focus on identity politics.

Many of us real, actual citizens knew it very well, which is why he drove record turnout to primary polls here in Colorado.
I was saying that if a voter wants leftist policies, then they have a much better chance and ally in the Democratics than the Republicans. In comparison to Republicans, Democrats have floated and supported virtually all leftist policy in the past few decades. Until we can get enough people to unite under leftist ideology or a new leftist party, shouldn't we be voting Dem to protect the leftist policy progress we have worked decades to accomplish? What is the problem with working within the Democratic Party to sharpen leftists policies, strengthen arguments, build consensus and hold representitives accountable to the platform? Is that more or less of a challenge, strategically speaking, than splitting leftists into a new party? Is it more or less desirable as far as political consequences? Didn't Bernie running as a Democrat evidence the point of Democrats being receptive to leftist policy?
 
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