Marijuana Causes Bad Stomach Problems, Etc.

1133445

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dang man, that sucks. i wonder if it's really related to smoking though. could be any number of things i figure. either way, sorry to hear man.
Always in the same place, right below my left ribcage.

Tried smoking weed again for the possibility of becoming a legal caretaker. ooh bad! What feels like stomach pains and bad gas, bloating. Made no sense to me as i smoked it before and it didnt cause any physical pains like this. Then I figured it out. It isnt as much about the weed as it is how smoke and certain chemicals react to an acidic condition. If your stomach has a ph balance of 2, which is the most acidic place exposed to whatever you injest, and maybe you are older and you are always right on the line of being overly acidic, pot will take you over this line and cause these problems. I realized this when the idea to thoroughly gargle and wash my mouth out after i smoke stopped the pains. It was swallowing the residuals that caused these stomach pains. Because after i did this got about as high and was comfortable afterwards. Still not sold on the idea of becoming a caretaker though. Sure if i ate nothing but the right foods and exercised religiously, i could see how it would have an affect.
 

ayekay

Active Member
I know this is an older thread, but I feel like the addition of fresh aloe vera gel could possibly(will) help alleviate stomach problems. If you can't find fresh aloe.. You can always grow it. :)
It's good for so many things, so eat it! Hell, I'm pretty sure I read something about how a horse was cured of ulcers with aloe. Don't suffer anymore Dudes, get back into your element.
Few nice reads on aloe/ulcer related studies.
http://blog.samlennon.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/AloeVeraCure.pdf

www.wjgnet.com/1007-9327/12/2034.asp
 

cc2ss

New Member
Cannabinoid Hyperemesis is a very real thing. I have been dealing with it over the last few years. As some early posters in this thread suggest just stop and see what happens. That is exactly what I did twice. After being hospitalized for repeated vomiting so much so that I lost 17 pounds in 1 week. Doctors did every test under the sun and came to the conclusion that it was cyclical vomiting syndrome. After finally getting out of the hospital I read a story of someone that had the same symptoms I had an most interestingly the only releif came in the form of an extremely hot shower. That was the same thing for me. The person stated that they were a chronic heavy smoker as I was. They stopped and everything got better. I figured why not give it a try. It worked within a week I was better and eating great. SO for a year and half I didn't smoke at all. Then I was at a friends house that grows for himself to help with chemo treatments and I figured what the hell. I got high as a kite and had a great time and thought wow I miss this. I started smoking again and it was fine for about a month or so then I started losing my appetite and it started all over again. I missed a bunch of work and was throwing up all week. I figured Ill stop again. Its been a couple weeks now and I feel great and I am eating like crazy. I saw another thread on here about that and have been bashed by people for it which is sad. I particularly love the responses from people that say I smoke and don't get sick so your full of shit. It is something only affects very few people but for those people it can be very serious. It is far more serious than a stomach ache. I was literally 1 day away from a feeding tube when it finally resided enough for me to eat just enough. With every medicine ever some people react different than others. MJ is no different. I am not against it. In fact I think it should be legal both medicinal and recreational. I think it helps far more people than it hurts and they should use it. If you use it recreational and you have no issues than keep using it. That is great ! I am actually jealous. I wish I could but I can't. Someone stated "it's not rocket science just stop and see what happens" That is very true and is exactly what I did and why I know what was causing it. I am fine if I smoke once or twice a week. The problem starts after weeks of smoking multiple times on a daily basis. It seems that it builds up over time and there is some kind of threshold that once exceeded I will go downhill in a very bad way. It is a very small portion of people that this happens to but it does happen.
 

qwizoking

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Just let these threads die already! If you think your having issues go to a doctor and stop complaining on here. Your not doing us any favors only hurting yourself by not getting checked out. Have them prescribe a cb antagonist if you like. If it was caused by the endocannabinoid system being stimulated by weed, which is what your suggesting. It would fix it....what are you trying to accomplish by repeating yourselves in these threads? Your so adamant you have chs but refuse to do anything about it...especially since these problems just started it could be something serious might not be but I can guarantee you won't help yourself or anyone else by arguing that its real
 

bobo.jason

New Member
Well i jus saw this thread and everyone dissin about it. But i ve to say i ve got the same problem with pot. Now i know u all dont believe it but thats probably cos we re differnt. See weed isnt givin any disease as of such but when we get the munchies the stomach acid to help the digestion increases. Now this may not be a problem to many but to a few who already has high metabolism and high acid level, the increase in acid leads to an unhealthy high acid level which cannot be fully lowerd even with the food intake. So with even a full stomach its like having an empty stomach. Which in long term weakens the somach lining and eventually one day shit happens. I have this problem at first i thought it was the alcohol and i left it i ate healthy fibrous food avoid spices. I recoverd in like two days but i kept my diet healthy after a month when i started smokin for a bout a week i was ok then i started vomiting continuously till my stomach was empty i couldnt even take a sip of water my stomach and all the inner things burning the doctors ve to give the glucose and antaacid and stuff like that through the veins cause i couldnt take em orally and my body needed to feel fed and stop secretin those acids. The test and scans told i was in good shape. All organs right shape size and location. The white blood platlette and all those stuff excellent. No food poisonin etc. When i recovered i thought it was all because of all the alcohol i use to drink never doubted pot. But then again after a few months and again till i realise ask the doc. My friends dont believe me. But i kno what i kno. I m good now i smoke up only a few times in a month. Keep my anta acid tab in handy. Pop one just before or right after i toke one. :) i realise this is an old thread and all but i jus had to say these stuff cos. Now that i kno what was my problem i dont have go through those episode of rolling on the hospital beds for a day and a night in excruciatin pain. And the pain really drags the time. I kno weed is good for many stuffs and i m not talkin about chemo so... I m just sayin maybe the info will help some one havin the same problem.
PEace.
 

qwizoking

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Intestinal Motility and Irritable Bowel Syndrome: The CB1 cannabinoid receptor has specifically been found to inhibit motility of the intestine in a variety of laboratory and farm animals. The effect is specific, indicating that endogenous cannabinoids to be responsible for regulating smooth muscle tone in the intesting, and therateof peristalsis.

Rosell et al[iv] first demonstrated that cannabinoids inhibit contractions of the small intestine in the rat. Pertwee et al[v] established the presence of cannabinoid (CB1) receptors within the guinea-pig intestine, Kazuhisa et al[vi] established the presence of enzymes which break down anandamide (the endogenous cannabinoid CB1-agonist) within the small intestine, and in rats Katayama et al[vii] also found "a high content of anandamide hydrolase in small intestine". The smooth muscle-relaxant properties of cannabinoids are so well established that preparations of guinea-pig intestine are routinely used as an in vitro screening tool to testthe potencyand function of novel cannabinoids[viii][ix].

Shook & Burks[x] found that THC reduced the frequency of intestinal contractions, and reduced the flow of food in the small intestine, without altering

cannabidiol) exert an inhibitory effect on GI transit and motility in rats". Cadas et al[xi] reported that a gut enzyme (vasoactive intestinal peptide) may regulate the precursor chemical to anandamide (which activates cannabinoid CB1 receptors) and N-palmitoylethanolamine (which activates a CB2-like receptor subtype), suggesting that endogenous cannabinoids may play a role in regulating theactivityofthe gut.

Studying guinea-pigs & rats, Coutts et al[xii] report "Activation of cannabinoid CB(1) receptors inhibits gastrointestinal motility, propulsion, and transit, whereas selective antagonism of these receptors has the opposite effects, suggesting the presence of endocannabinoid tone." Lopez-Redondo

transmission occurred by reversible activation of both presynaptic and postsynaptic CB1

synaptic transmission can also be reversibly depressed by cannabinoids." In mice, Pinto et al[xiv] found endogenous and exogenous CB1-receptor

"endocannabinoids acting on myenteric CB1 receptors tonically inhibit colonic propulsion in mice.", Izzo et al[xv] concluded "inflammation of the gut increases the potency of cannabinoid agonists possibly by'up-regulating' CB(1) receptor expression; in addition, endocannabinoids, whose turnover is increased in inflamed gut, might tonically inhibit intestinal motility", finding CB2 receptor antagonists did notreverse the effect[xvi], and Mancinelli et al[xvii] concluded "cannabinoids perform a neuromodulatory role in varioustracts of gastrointestinal system".

Ueda et al[xviii] established the presence of anandamide hydrolase· an enzyme which breaks down endogenous cannabinoids, in the rat, as well as other enzymes inhibiting its activity, suggesting close regulation of endocannabinoid levels in the gut. They noted "The anandamide hydrolase and synthase activities were detected in a variety of rat organs, and liver showed by far the highest activities. A high anandamide hydrolase activity was also detected in small intestine but only after the homogenate was precipitated with acetone to remove endogenous lipids inhibiting theenzyme activity."

In an in vitro study of human tissue preparations, Croci et al[xix] reported "These results provide functional evidence of the existence of prejunctional cannabinoid CB1-receptors in the human ileum longitudinal smooth muscle. Agonist activation of these receptors prevents responses to electrical field stimulation, presumably by inhibiting acetylcholine release. SR 141716 is a potent and competitive antagonist ofcannabinoid CB1 receptors naturally expressed in thehuman gut."

Tyler et al[xx] found CB1 agonists inhibited, and CB1 antagonists increased, small intestinal secretion, concluding "cannabinoids may have therapeutic potential for diarrhea unresponsive to available therapies." However, after finding humans using cannabis produced more voluminous diarrhoea when challenged with cholera or E.Coli, Nalin et al[xxi] warned "Cannabis use may be an important factor predisposing to severe diarrhoea." Izzo et al[xxii] found SR141716A (CB1 antagonist) increased, whereas WIN 55,212-2 (CB1 agonist) decreased, defaecation, gastrointestinal transit and fluid accumulation. Winn et al[xxiii] found "Ten new delta6a,10a-THC analogs

antihypertensives, and hypnotics and as antisecretory, antiulcer, and antidiarrheal agents."

Turker et al[xxiv] found an antihistaminic and anti-inflammatory activity of THC in intestinal tissue. Kulkarni-Narla et al[xxv] noted "Cannabis has been used for centuries in the medicinal treatment of gastrointestinal disorders. Endogenous cannabinimimetic substances such as 2-arachidonylglycerol have been isolated from gut homogenates and CB1-cannabinoid binding sites have been identified in small intestine."

Gastric Emptying & Motility: Pertwee[xxvi] noted "Cannabinoid receptor agonists delay gastric emptying in humans as well as in rodents and probably also inhibit human gastric acid secretion", Landi et al[xxvii]

mechanisms in gastrointestinal transit delay by specific agonists". Izzo et al[xxviii] concluded "cannabinoid agonists delay gastric emptying through activation of cannabinoid CB1 receptors, while the endogenous cannabinoid system does not seem to modulate gastric motility", whilst Krowicki et al[xxix] found "THC evoked long-lasting decreases in intragastric pressure and pyloric contractility. ... gastric motor... effects ofperipherally administered delta9-THC seem to be mediated through cannabinoid CB1 receptors".

In human volunteers, Bateman[xxx] reported "Despite significant change in pulse rate and psychological parameters consistent with cannabis activity there was no significant effect on the pattern of gastric emptying. It is therefore suggested that an anti-emetic action of delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol does not involvea change in gastric emptying",

Gastric Acid Secretion & Ulcers: Studying the effects of cannabinoids on gastric acid secretions, Adami et al[xxxi] found "gastric antisecretory effects of cannabinoids in the rat are mediated by suppression of vagal drive to the stomach through activation of CB(1) receptors" Izzo et al[xxxii] noted "The digestive tract contains endogenous cannabinoids (anandamide and 2-arachidonylglycerol) and cannabinoid CB1 receptors can be found on myenteric and submucosal nerves. Activation of CB1 receptors inhibits gastrointestinal motility, intestinal secretion and gastric acid secretion" and conclude "The enteric location of CB1 receptors could provide new strategies for the managementof gut disorders."

Corruzzi et al[xxxiii] concluded

anaesthetized rat is mediated by specific cannabinoid receptors. Moreover, the antagonism of WIN 55,212-2-induced effects by the selective CB1 receptor antagonists SR141716A and LY320135 together with the ineffectiveness of both the CB2 receptor agonist JWH-015 and the CB2 receptor antagonist SR144528 indicate that CB1 receptor subtypes are predominantlyinvolved in the antisecretory effect of WIN 55,212-2". In humans, Nalin et al[xxxiv] found "smoking of cannabis greater than 2 days a week waslinked with low (stomach) acid output"

Germano et al[xxxv] reported "The cannabinoid receptor agonist WIN 55,212-2... reduced gastric ulceration. The protective effect of WIN 55,212-2 was counteracted by the cannabinoid CB1 receptor antagonist SR141716A... These results indicate that the antiulcer effect of the cannabinoid receptor agonist(s) is mediated by cannabinoid CB1 receptors." De Souza[xxxvi] found acute and long-term cannabis treatment reduced the rate of gastriculceration in rats subjected to restraint-induced stress.

Summary - Cannabinoids and the GI Tract: While I am not aware of any published results from controlled human studies of medical use of cannabis in the treatment of conditions such as gastric ulcers or irritable bowel syndrome, there appears to be sufficient animal evidence of the potential efficacy of cannabis in reducing intestinal spasms, ulceration and gastric acid secretion to merit further research into this and related indications.

Any symptomatic relief obtained from smoking cannabis, or use via inhalers or sublingual sprays, would occur far more rapidly than with oral preparations.






I know its long and boring but basically what its saying is your completely wrong... smoking weed lowers stomach acidity
 

qwizoking

Well-Known Member
Can we be done with this already.... there is no backing for chs..


None

Not trying to be an ass, sorry y'all are feeling bad and now you don't even get high to feel a little better, there are side effects to weed I don't think its some miracle herb this just isn't one of them..move on, smoke some weed and go to a good doctor and don't mention anything about chs or anything you may have read, don't mention weed either or any other drug if you want a real diagnoses
 

mrCRC420

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Yo I bet dude is just lactose-intolerant and doesn't know it. My stomach sucks in the morning; I take a few puffs and I'm right on track to start my day. Chronic mmmmm
 
In response to the study posted above about intestinal spasms and weed, I suffered greatly during a recent Crohn's disease flare and weed absolutely helped pain in the intestines. I could feel it. Spasms stopped in about 15 seconds after inhalation. Causes bad stomach problems? More like helps but hey moderation is key..if you smoke high grade chronic all day I'm sure in some folks there will be issues after a while.
 

SpeakEasy71

New Member
Many of you who are having stomach problems are suffering from Cannabis Toxicity. With long-term use, marijuana increases ones symphathetic nerve activity, while descreasing parasymphathetic activity. Digestion falls under the category of parasymphathetic activity. The digestive problems that result from marijuana use is delayed gastric emptying, where food gets stuck in the colon. This causes bloating, discomfort, increased levels of bile, until it all comes out at once in a painful episode of stomach cramps. So, yes, marijuana is the cause and a lot of people don't know it. Cannabis toxicity is both a neurological and cardio-vascular condition. Luckily, there is a herb that allows one to detox from marijuana.
 

qwizoking

Well-Known Member
"Bateman DN.

Br J Clin Pharmacol. 1983 Jun;15(6):749-51.

Abstract
The effects of delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (0.5 and 1 mg i.v.) on gastric emptying of liquid were investigated in seven normal volunteers and compared with placebo. Despite significant change in pulse rate and psychological parameters consistent with cannabis activity there was no significant effect on the pattern of gastric emptying. It is therefore suggested that an anti-emetic action of delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol does not involve a change in gastric emptying."


Mmmmmmm.......try again
And please tell me you weren't about to spam us with some detox aid
 

JoObJoOb

Active Member
I had pretty serious gi problems,including pancreatitus about 8 months ago,bloating blood alot of stuff,the doctors couldnt figure out anything,after about year of test,i was reading about the endocannabinoid system one day (since the doctors wasnt helping anything,decided to do my own research) and came across a video,so i watched it,2 hours long,,about pot helping all the symtoms i was haveing,,i hadnt smoked weed in 20 + years,but i went and bought some,with in a few weeks i felt 100 times better,,in last 6 months almost all my problem with gi have disappeared,i lost 30 pounds,i no longer am tired all the time,and feel 20 years younger,this i have to say is from the weed,cause ive really changed nothing else,im 51 years old,and now feel more like 40 again,so i dont know,guess it depends on the person,I stopped smokeing weed way back cause i just didnt like it,now im very interested in all the other information out there on the endocannabinoid system ,hope your problems improve,sorry,i know what your talking about,it sucked
 

JoObJoOb

Active Member
as im sure anything in excess is not good for you,i smoke maybe once or twice aday,4 or 5 hits,sometimes i feel instant relief to other problems,like my neck and back pains from injury many years ago,now i can actually sleep a whole night,without tossing and turning every few minutes,,so im sure its helping other areas also,not just my gi problems,,
 

JoObJoOb

Active Member
you might look up a guy named joe barton,i also tryed some of his research,before i started researching the endocannabinoid system .he has a website
 

hertz

New Member
actually,i'm not so sure but i'm affraid i'm gonna say yes, marijuana can cause stomach issues, i passed the last 18 months of my life completely high, smoking everyday, and after about 5 months i started having these stomach burns and constant pain, i didn't really know what it was about and i ignored completely , for about a year or so, i saw doctors and took pills, never knew what was wrong ( i always answer my doctors No if they ask me if i'm a heavy pot smoker, so eventually i decided to try if it's from weed or no, i've been free since fourteen 14 days now ( toda is 20/05/2014 , and i feel better and healthier in my stomach, my brain kinda wants to explode and i'm having trouble sleeping,but hey, soon enough i can end this madness and have my conclusion!
 

bird mcbride

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Too much O'donald's or Burger Thing can result in gut rot also.
Once infected even cigarette smoke can agitate the victim:)
Without actually knowing what the agitant is the doctor is only taking shots in the dark.
Using things like Tums and rolaids etc the victim is only prolonging the agony. Tums is good for building strong bones:)
Proper hygiene and diet is the answer. Even if you got dentures it's important to brush your mouth with a good quality antiseptic toothpaste and rinse and gargle with a powerful mouthwash. This slows the flow of germs entering into the stomach and allows the immune system a chance to actually do something other than combat constant incoming germs. Every marine has it drilled right into him...your first line of defence is your tooth brush:)
I got a buddy that died from gut rot last year. He wasn't a mj smoker. His brother is a doctor...
 
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