Making THC pills

why decarb @ 200 before extract?? Why not just evaporate the alcohol @ 275 -300*F that will activate the THC in the oil......

colonuggs said:

why decarb @ 200 before extract?? Why not just evaporate the alcohol @ 275 -300*F that will activate the THC in the oil......

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i dont understand.. you decarb after extract not before. And I'm using BHO so Id prefer to decrarb to remove 100% of the butane. You could use regular shatter from winterized oil. Decarbed meds have different effects though. Definitely stronger in the pain and sleep category in my opinion.

What do you mean when you say decarbed meds have different effects.
Why would they be more sedative?
Do you mean vs the thca and cbda non decarbed meds orally? Or like vs smoked bud
Honestly just trying to get your opinion/point of view, whatever

If you cant decarb naturally you should always do it after extraction and watch bubbles

everyone has their own opinions on oils and how they process or decarb. Decarbed oil that i make has a high thc % then the oil that has not been decarbed (shatter or crumble). The reason being is residual solvents and terpenes are burnt off
leaving you a more concentrated batch of medication. The result is a pain relieving and sleep capsule. And if it benefits your health.. a daily vitamin.

I'm trying to take the low mg capsules to help with my allergies from bud plants... mostly from cutting down.

qwizoking said:

What do you mean when you say decarbed meds have different effects.
Why would they be more sedative?
Do you mean vs the thca and cbda non decarbed meds orally? Or like vs smoked bud
Honestly just trying to get your opinion/point of view, whatever
If you cant decarb naturally you should always do it after extraction and watch bubbles

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If you don't activate the oil or marijuana (decarb) and you ingest the oil in pill form you wont get high...just as if you eat raw weed you wont get high...you cant get high off eating a gram of hash either...but add the hash to some really hot coffee

To me what you are doing is making a form of Rick Simpson oil

good to see you qwiz
have any of yall tried to make the capsules with pure MCT oil? instead of coconut oil?

been taking 140mg about once a day or every other day. definitely noticing that I'm getting a way better sleep. mornings
feel much better due to this and I'm able to get more done. haven't tried the 300s tho... lol kinda scared. Taking these thc capsules I notice that Im definitely not smoking as much.. or not having the need to smoke as much. Great for just relaxing. I definitely would stick to a 75mg-50mg capsule during the day. These particular capsules are too strong for daytime use.

Texas(THC) said:

good to see you qwiz
have any of yall tried to make the capsules with pure MCT oil? instead of coconut oil?

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Do you think it would bind as well with the MCT compared to the coconut oil? On a molecular level i mean. The coconut
oil is a good mix in my opinion for that specific reason. The fat content allows the THC oil to homogenize better under heat.
When the capsule is released into the system if the oils aren't bonded correctly you might get a different effect.

GhostBud420 said:

Do you think it would bind as well with the MCT compared to the coconut oil? On a molecular level i mean. The coconut
oil is a good mix in my opinion for that specific reason. The fat content allows the THC oil to homogenize better under heat.
When the capsule is released into the system if the oils aren't bonded correctly you might get a different effect.

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im not sure
but I don't see why it wouldn't work better
I do know their is still a significant amount of fat in it

just found a thread on icmag..
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=197778

http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/mct-oil-vs-coconut-oil-the-truth-exposed/

Basically how i feel..
You wantthose chains. Will also hold more cannabinoids

Ill add more in a min...

maybe ill try that mix on a later batch. but i also don't see any reason why it wouldn't work the same as coco oil.
I'm sure you know about adding the soy lecithin as well. I haven't tried without the soy to compare the difference, but the caps i made are decent with the soy. the 150mg mix i made hits really fast and creeps up.

"Lauric acid is the star component in coconut oil, but missing in MCT oil. If MCT oil was the fractionation of all of the MCTs in coconut oil, it would be about 80% lauric acid. But it is not. It is zero percent lauric acid." - See more at: http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/mct-oil-vs-coconut-oil-the-truth-exposed/#sthash.gnoVfMDx.dpuf

great find qwizoking,

The process can be done with MCT but its no question that coconut oil is the healthier and more effective choice.

yes it seems it is just another marketing strategy

Soy lecithin is a waste of time, actually may be counter productive.
The mct thing, isnt that big of a deal though. The main difference is it wont hold quite as much in solution due to the shorter chains and the higher polarity. The lipophilicity and logp also determine what happens in the body to that drug, it will get taken up sooner if its less polar...as an example this is why thc is hard to use as a suppository. Not that it makes a huge difference here. We do need to lower the polarity of thc as it is to get it to absorb efficiently..but the fairly polar fatty acids in coconut are fine and the variation of those acids is good

This is great info. I'm new and don't have a like button yet, but cool job you guys.

I can get BHO pretty cheap and want to try this. Edibles and THC caps are so expensive at dispensaries. If I make my own from BHO I can save a lot of money. I'm still not sure what the best way to decarb is before I mix it and cap it.... Can I just heat the little bottle in an oven, with the cap off a while? Would that work?

Put over a double boil, keeping it at 210 you know. And watch the oil release little bubbles, thats it decarbing. When they slow its good to go, like popcorn lol. This is the best way to keep from overdoing it. Most people who make edibles or caps wind up with a more sedative product, thats because they heated it to much breaking down the more sensitive thc and also creating cbn while leaving nice stable cbds.
An edible should not be sedative, or atleast not more so. The thc gets cinverted in your liver to a more potent form

qwizoking said:

Put over a double boil, keeping it at 210 you know. And watch the oil release little bubbles, thats it decarbing. When they slow its good to go, like popcorn lol. This is the best way to keep from overdoing it. Most people who make edibles or caps wind up with a more sedative product, thats because they heated it to much breaking down the more sensitive thc and also creating cbn while leaving nice stable cbds.
An edible should not be sedative, or atleast not more so. The thc gets cinverted in your liver to a more potent form

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I've noticed that the 130's that i made are more sedative then the 140's. The difference is the oil and how long they were decarbed and at what temp. So what you just posted makes perfect sense to me and a great thing to know in the future.

Thanks, I'll be giving this a try. Nice tip on watching the bubbles to decarb, and don't over decarb. I'm looking for basically a full-spectrum effect and not just an old fashioned Quaalude, lol.

Just made a batch of bho with blue dream. Gonna see how it does in a canna cap. Where can I find the soy lecithin?