Making Cannabutter: To use water or not to use water?

Hello everyone of rollitup,

I have made cannabutter a few times first time with water and the second time without.

The first time I used regular unsalted butter and the second time I used coconut oil.

I felt it was easier without the water because I didn't have to filter it and it I thought I had a better yield.

The second time I wrapped the material in cheesecloth and put it into a crockpot, where as the second time I put

the weed straight into the butter and filtered it afterwards.

I also have read that water absorbs the chlorophyll making it taste less "green".

So I guess the question is to use water or not to use water?

I use water it helps to keep the butter from burning and if you decarb the material it will remove the chlorophyll

Water makes it taste better. You can do multiple butter washes with hot water to get rid of the flavor completely and keep the effect. Only problem with this method is unsuspecting folks can get seriously trainwrecked if they do not know what is contained in what they are eating.

I think it's good to do with water the first run but I don't wash further after that. I prefer to keep some of the taste so that there is a reminder for unsuspecting folk.

Edit: The second time I wrapped the material in cheesecloth and put it into a crockpot, where as the first time I put

the weed straight into the butter and filtered it afterwards.

How do you do multiple washes/use water?

OGEvilgenius said:

Water makes it taste better. You can do multiple butter washes with hot water to get rid of the flavor completely and keep the effect. Only problem with this method is unsuspecting folks can get seriously trainwrecked if they do not know what is contained in what they are eating.

I think it's good to do with water the first run but I don't wash further after that. I prefer to keep some of the taste so that there is a reminder for unsuspecting folk.

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Soulkipper said:

How do you do multiple washes/use water?

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By rinsing with more hot water to extract more butter that is still trapped in the trim.

Soulkipper said:

How do you do multiple washes/use water?

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You melt the butter into a liquid, mix with hot water. Put it in the fridge over night. Let it solidify again completely and then dump the water. The water will contain chlorophyll and other water soluble things. It will also get rid of some terpenes. Sometimes the terpenes can actually improve flavor. Depends though on what you're trying to do. First wash I find most of the terpenes are still there but the chlorophyll isn't. To me that's perfect.

OGEvilgenius said:

You melt the butter into a liquid, mix with hot water. Put it in the fridge over night. Let it solidify again completely and then dump the water. The water will contain chlorophyll and other water soluble things. It will also get rid of some terpenes. Sometimes the terpenes can actually improve flavor. Depends though on what you're trying to do. First wash I find most of the terpenes are still there but the chlorophyll isn't. To me that's perfect.

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I thought after straining the trim you add more hot water to get the last bit of butter out and then place in frig.

I've had so much success with straight coconut oil; that's making canna coconut oil and the final product working so well in anything I've made, zero "weed" taste and potent. My butter experiences left me wanting better results.

SpondyMama27 said:

I've had so much success with straight coconut oil; that's making canna coconut oil and the final product working so well in anything I've made, zero "weed" taste and potent. My butter experiences left me wanting better results.

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Coconut oil is good but not for all recipes. I'd like to see you make caramel with it or some people who are allergic to tree nuts (like almonds, cashews, and walnuts) are also allergic to coconut.

I do not use water when making butter.

My method is to run the trim through the bubble bags then add the fresh bubble to melted butter and simmer it for an hour. I keep it between 180 and 190 degrees and I have never burnt any.
I then pour it into a rubber mold that has many 1 table spoon sized holes. Then into the freezer till solid. Each one is wrapped in foil and kept frozen until use.
I have had zero complaints and have a high demand for it since it actually has an amazing flavor! It will also give you the most wonderful body high for most of the day!

ButchyBoy said:

I do not use water when making butter.

My method is to run the trim through the bubble bags then add the fresh bubble to melted butter and simmer it for an hour. I keep it between 180 and 190 degrees and I have never burnt any.
I then pour it into a rubber mold that has many 1 table spoon sized holes. Then into the freezer till solid. Each one is wrapped in foil and kept frozen until use.
I have had zero complaints and have a high demand for it since it actually has an amazing flavor! It will also give you the most wonderful body high for most of the day!

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I've done that in the past and I've even used 191 proof Everclear and evaporated it down to an oil and mixed it with butter but it's costly. I make ice cream with my trim now here's my thread https://www.rollitup.org/p/11369809/

REALSTYLES said:

I've done that in the past and I've even used 191 proof Everclear and evaporated it down to an oil and mixed it with butter but it's costly. I make ice cream with my trim now here's my thread https://www.rollitup.org/p/11369809/

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I have done the everclear thing also. I use it to clean my bubble bags. I once smoked some before it was all the way evaporated and got drunk! No lie, it was terrible that early in the day!

Now I want to make some ice cream with bubble hash!!

ButchyBoy said:

I have done the everclear thing also. I use it to clean my bubble bags. I once smoked some before it was all the way evaporated and got drunk! No lie, it was terrible that early in the day!

Now I want to make some ice cream with bubble hash!!

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I drank some lol I know what you mean

No water. Period.

OGEvilgenius said:

You melt the butter into a liquid, mix with hot water. Put it in the fridge over night. Let it solidify again completely and then dump the water. The water will contain chlorophyll and other water soluble things. It will also get rid of some terpenes. Sometimes the terpenes can actually improve flavor. Depends though on what you're trying to do. First wash I find most of the terpenes are still there but the chlorophyll isn't. To me that's perfect.

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Can you do this before letting the budder set a first time?

Soulkipper said:

Can you do this before letting the budder set a first time?

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Yeah, you can.

OGEvilgenius said:

Water makes it taste better. You can do multiple butter washes with hot water to get rid of the flavor completely and keep the effect. Only problem with this method is unsuspecting folks can get seriously trainwrecked if they do not know what is contained in what they are eating.

I think it's good to do with water the first run but I don't wash further after that. I prefer to keep some of the taste so that there is a reminder for unsuspecting folk.

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highly suggest this for edibles from vaporized weed, removes any unwanted taste usually after 2 washes, sometimes i go as far as 3 or 4 or until the water doesnt look gross and murky. it seems the smell improves as well as the color, makes it look a little more like butter if you do it good too.

I will always use water, it really does help the overall process, ime.
I would like to hear how long people think it takes in order to soak up the thca from 14 grams of sugar trim, into 2 sticks of butter? How long does it take for the fat to bond to the thc, it is my theory that it is better to decarb your butter than to decarb you plant material because you can watch the bubbles taper off.
What will happen if I double boil the 14 grams in the 2 sticks of butter for 1 hour. Then I cook the butter at 250 until all the bubble stop, next I re double boil the same butter in the 14 grams again for another hour and then back to 250 degrees. The question here is, will there be more bubbles and how many time will this need to be done for 14 grams/2 sticks?
I am running this experiment later today so, any hypothesis or experience is welcome.

My question would be...

What do bubbles have to do with any of this?

The butter will absorb the THC in an hour at 190 degrees.

If you boil your trim a second time I would think you will have even more green to deal with.

I used a crock pot the first time I made butter. I let it simmer for 4 hours and had some of the greenest butter I have ever seen and it stank up the house. After the butter cooled I put it into a pot of fresh water and heated it again. After letting it cool again it was just a tad lighter green and still tasted like crap! It did work but there was no way I was eating that again! It reminded me of the cookie I got at the dispensary... Yuck!!
I tossed the whole pound (minus enough to make a cookie) of green butter in the trash and started over. Running the trim through the bubble bags takes less time than boiling trim in watery butter. One table spoon of fresh bubble in a pound of butter will give you the best flavor hands down and takes less than two hours to make. It will also knock your socks off!!!

Any how.. That is my method. Everyone I have given free samples to have asked for more.