Mainlined colas, even nutrients distribution?

GreenBean 420

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Day 42 of flower

So these aren't "true" manifolds. I began the process. Stopped at 4 colas on each but then let a node or two go...so technically there are 4 main colas and like 8 other side branches on each plant.
I've been watching them develop and some colas are maturing or swapping white hairs for orange hairs earlier than others. Well it seems that way.
Even though I let those side branches go won't the plant still pretty much be sending nutes evenly through the plant and thus they should all be maturing at the same rate? Is that not how it works at all lmao? Or do i just have to compare the main colas to each other and not the off shoots to main colas etc?...
I ran out of training room in the garden so 2-3 colas got away from me at some point haha
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cannn

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id say that left plant being more even will mature more evenly. the one on the right with the colas much higher than the others, those colas will probably finish a bit earlier than the rest of the plant. ime whatevers higher up on the plant matures faster and whatever gets better light. ive never had a plant that was totally evenly mature. at the very least lower nugs will be a little different
 

kratos015

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Actually, the nutes they get are the result of the rate of photosynthesis. The top of your plant gets the most light, so it's going to have a faster rate of photosynthesis than the rest of the plant. As a result, it will be able to uptake more nutrients and potentially be ripe before the rest of the crop. I had this happen a lot with me outdoors in my greenhouse, I'd have to harvest the top half of the plant and leave the bottom half for another week or two before it was ready.

Grab yourself a basic $10 jewelers loupe if you don't have one already and start looking at the glands, they'll tell you when it's time. Sometimes only part of your plant will be ripe while the rest will need more time to develop and the trichs will let you know for sure.

Nice looking set up by the way, anymore info on the specs of the grow? Love to see what you end up yielding, looking great man.
 

chillok

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Looking good OP. Even if you fully mainlined, there will typically be a ripening variance due to what kratos said. You may help side branching ripen more in tune with mains if you expose them to as much light as possible. I see opportunity to pull some side branching out from under cola fan leaves, maybe wire them up, as they get heavier they'll lean out naturally. Healthy without P nutrient burned leaf tips yet, that's been my challenge with nutrient distribution to colas when mainlining. Doing well using grow/bloom together at low ratios through flower now.
Share your medium/feed regimen.. they look great.
 
I think you have too many fan leaves on there. If im reading and understanding correctly, you can go into harvesting with very little to actually trim because you should be trimming pretty substantially throughout mainlining. Thus allowing more light to get down to the lower nugs...Be aware: Check out my name, but this guy probably explains it way better than I ever could.

growweed easy com /manifold# intro- main-lining-manifold

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cannn

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I think you have too many fan leaves on there. If im reading and understanding correctly, you can go into harvesting with very little to actually trim because you should be trimming pretty substantially throughout mainlining. Thus allowing more light to get down to the lower nugs...Be aware: Check out my name, but this guy probably explains it way better than I ever could.

growweed easy com /manifold# intro- main-lining-manifold

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It really depends on the plant. Some will grow with a node structure thats a little more spaced and wont need it. Bushy indicas will likely benefit. I dont think his plants would. Not large enough or leafy enough that it should be causing issues imo

http://www.growweedeasy.com/manifold#intro-main-lining-manifold

Thats nebula haze ^

http://www.growweedeasy.com/mainlining-nugbuckets

This one by the original nugbuckets ^

Not knocking nebula hazes method i tried it on my moms and it works and is faster. Ill have to see how it compares results wise later.

You only trim when mainlining up to the forming of the manifold when you release the plant. Makes a nice clean lower area of the plant and makes the training visually easier to understand and maintain. Not really necessary
 

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Mohican

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The highest growth tip will get the most energy. That is why you need to keep all of the tops at the same height to get the true benefits of mainlining.
 

GreenBean 420

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The highest growth tip will get the most energy. That is why you need to keep all of the tops at the same height to get the true benefits of mainlining.
I don't thinks that's the theory at all. While the closest to the light will most likely get more energy mainlining is suppose to be that all the nodes are the same distance from the root structure. So all the food travels the same distance to each cola. The even canopy is the rest of mainlining. I just harvested last night I'll post the weight in my main thread!
 
It really depends on the plant. Some will grow with a node structure thats a little more spaced and wont need it. Bushy indicas will likely benefit. I dont think his plants would. Not large enough or leafy enough that it should be causing issues imo

http://www.growweedeasy.com/manifold#intro-main-lining-manifold

Thats nebula haze ^

http://www.growweedeasy.com/mainlining-nugbuckets

This one by the original nugbuckets ^

Not knocking nebula hazes method i tried it on my moms and it works and is faster. Ill have to see how it compares results wise later.

You only trim when mainlining up to the forming of the manifold when you release the plant. Makes a nice clean lower area of the plant and makes the training visually easier to understand and maintain. Not really necessary

I read down toward the bottom and saw he posted that method here. lol, had no clue until just now, thats cool.

and good to know on the other part as I head into my first grow..
 

cannn

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I read down toward the bottom and saw he posted that method here. lol, had no clue until just now, thats cool.

and good to know on the other part as I head into my first grow..
Yeah i did that for you cause you couldnt. :bigjoint: I really dont get why they dont let new members do everything. Its not like member status correlates to experience. At least not always. Plenty of great new members, and well known members that got there posting in spirituality sexuality and philosophy :dunce:

Lol no offense to everyone posting there but theres a reason the flat earth thread is there
 

cannn

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I even mine with string and scotch tape, after Mainlining, this is first full day 12/12
Also they look like somethings wrong.. Maybe a bit of overwatering, not terribly bad but noticable

Whats that medium? Coco?

If it is im not sure overwatering would make sense

Never grown in coco
 

InTheValley

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Also they look like somethings wrong.. Maybe a bit of overwatering, not terribly bad but noticable

Whats that medium? Coco?

If it is im not sure overwatering would make sense

Never grown in coco
Yeah, its coco. I think its high humidity you might be seeing? Actually, im not even sure what your seeing. lol.. I do water 2 times a day, with very very little runoff, if any. Just alot of leafs for this 2x2. You will also see a bunch of leafs tucked, as i will never defoliate again, lol.. If anything, might cut pedals, but never the entire leaf unless it falls off. and ofcourse brown decomp ends.

Ive been battleing Humidity like a mofo. Today I finally got it down to 70% from 78-80% last 6 days or so. I grow in a basement, but have outside air vent/filtered into the tent. then a dehumidifier, and 4 of those shitty things that take a month to pull moisture from the air inside the tent. Working on another dehumidifier but for the entire basement for days its to humid outside.

Dont want to thread Jack here, but wanted to clarify a question brought up.
 
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cannn

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Yeah, its coco. I think its high humidity you might be seeing? Actually, im not even sure what your seeing. lol.. I do water 2 times a day, with very very little runoff, if any. Just alot of leafs for this 2x2. You will also see a bunch of leafs tucked, as i will never defoliate again, lol.. If anything, might cut pedals, but never the entire leaf unless it falls off. and ofcourse brown decomp ends.

Ive been battleing Humidity like a mofo. Today I finally got it down to 70% from 78-80% last 6 days or so. I grow in a basement, but have outside air vent/filtered into the tent. then a dehumidifier, and 4 of those shitty things that take a month to pull moisture from the air inside the tent. Working on another dehumidifier but for the entire basement for days its to humid outside.

Dont want to thread Jack here, but wanted to clarify a question brought up.
Dont think we have to worry about jacking this. I saw this guys harvest for these plants in another thread. This grows over.
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Leaves curving down like that is usually a sign of overwatering. Could be your high humidity. From what i read normal overwatering is pretty much impossible in coco but what can happen is if the medium is drenched too often the roots wont grow large enough to support the plant due to a lack of need to search for water, that said the fact that dwc works kills that idea imo
 

InTheValley

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I thought that was what you seen. I water 2 times a day, and every 3rd res change, I let it run 2 days without water. 7 days ago, I had major PH problems and switched Nutes from FoxFarm to PH Perfect AN. Im hoping that is just a OG strain tendency or the humidity tho, im at 68% now, so we'll see.

I hate DWC, lol, left me scared for life.
 

cannn

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I thought that was what you seen. I water 2 times a day, and every 3rd res change, I let it run 2 days without water. 7 days ago, I had major PH problems and switched Nutes from FoxFarm to PH Perfect AN. Im hoping that is just a OG strain tendency or the humidity tho, im at 68% now, so we'll see.

I hate DWC, lol, left me scared for life.
I can tell you for sure somethings wrong there. Your probably right that its the humidity. I have seen plants get kind of like that here in high humidity. Noticed the change when i got humidity down to 50. Ive dealt with 70+ here, and all my early grows dealt with that so early on i never noticed the issue but my leaves would be waxier, plants wouldnt uptake enough nutrients so i was battling that, and the leaves would do a bit of that downward curve.
 

cannn

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I thought that was what you seen. I water 2 times a day, and every 3rd res change, I let it run 2 days without water. 7 days ago, I had major PH problems and switched Nutes from FoxFarm to PH Perfect AN. Im hoping that is just a OG strain tendency or the humidity tho, im at 68% now, so we'll see.

I hate DWC, lol, left me scared for life.
Im a bit scared of dwc myself lol. Literally put two clones into my first dwc setup last night! Really excited and terrified lol
 

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