maine MMJ genetics talk

It's as easy as 3-2-1, really. 3grams Jack's Hydro, 2grams CalNite, 1gram Epsom salts per gallon. That'll get you to basically where you want to be. After that, it's all about tweaking the recipe. I prefer to use EC instead of measuring out per gallon, as I mix up a gallon of concentrate and then add it to a larger rez where I take from that and dilute it to what my smaller reservoirs need.

And my BW did start to blue up in the last 2 days or so on a few buds... that was after I dropped the temp down below 58 degrees at night. So... it can, but it's gotta get damn cold in there. Figure fall temps at night are gonna range from 40-55 degrees. That'll make 'em blue up.
 

Maine Brookies

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Did it turn a light lavender or a dark angry purple? One of my Qdawgs went dark dark purple with dark period temps of 62-64. It's looking pretty sexy.
 

maineyankee

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It's as easy as 3-2-1, really. 3grams Jack's Hydro, 2grams CalNite, 1gram Epsom salts per gallon. That'll get you to basically where you want to be. After that, it's all about tweaking the recipe. I prefer to use EC instead of measuring out per gallon, as I mix up a gallon of concentrate and then add it to a larger rez where I take from that and dilute it to what my smaller reservoirs need.
Thank you so very much Organicness :-) I will def be giving this a go when I use up all of what Nutes I have currently, and begin a new grow.
 

tet1953

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Did it turn a light lavender or a dark angry purple? One of my Qdawgs went dark dark purple with dark period temps of 62-64. It's looking pretty sexy.
Not all my SD changed. But that which did, got very dark purple. When I first noticed it from across the room I thought it did something bad like mold or something.
 

maineyankee

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Question: Down the road,I will be ordering seeds, instead of my current way of growing, and that is by cloning. (This will happen when I get to my 4th Cycle of Grow, so still a ways away) but ... I am more liking the CBN aspect, rather than looking for the high. I suffer from major chronic pain, primarily in the lower abdomen/groin area, and need to still be able to function on a daily level. In time, I wish to have like 3 or 4 different strains in my arsenal, one that I can still drive, go shopping, everyday daily life, then another for when my pain level gets about a 8 or 9, and then a strain for couch-lock. Can you help me out in pointing me in the right direction as to where to look up this sort of material, and what strains work best for this type of program. The following is what I have read, and feel best that it gives me some information that a newbie would need to know, such as myself. Thanks in advance :-)

Cannabis contains a number of cannabinoids, of which the most abundant are THC (
D9-tetrahydrocannabinol), CBD (cannabidiol) and CBN (cannabinol). The active ingredient, which gets you high, is THC. In the plant, CBD is a precursor and CBN a metabolite of THC. As cannabis gets older, THC gradually breaks down to CBN.
THC is the substance found to have most psychoactive effect, and also the most effect on symptoms such as pain or bronchospasm. CBN and CBD are not psychoactive themselves, however CBD can take the edge off a THC high, tending to relax the user rather than increasing anxiety and paranoia. CBD has also been found to have anticonvulsant properties (potential value in treating epilepsy, MS, muscle spasms etc), and recently published research has indicated CBD to be effective in reducing neurotoxic brain damage following strokes or head trauma. The proposed mechanism of action also suggests CBD may offer some protection against ecstasy-derived neurotoxicity (long-term depletion of serotonergic receptors), although this has not specifically been investigated. CBD is normally present in significant quantities in hashish (cannabis resin), although in most herbal cannabis or "skunk" the levels of CBD are usually low or absent.Although smoked cannabis offers some advantages over oral preparations (rapid onset of action, ability to control dose), the smoke contains carcinogens, tars and other lung irritants which may cause respiratory diseases and lung cancer. The lack of an effective filter in "roaches" and the deep inhalation techniques used by cannabis smokers increases this risk. However the study of smoke composition quoted by the BMA and others referred to poor quality herbal cannabis smoked "neat", and the relevance of these results to tobacco/hash spliffs or high-THC varieties is questionable. At least one pharmaceutical company is developing alternative quick-acting delivery systems for plant-derived cannabinoid combinations, avoiding the need for smoking.
 

tet1953

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According to the fine print above, maybe making hash, edibles and getting a vaporizor are good alternatives for you also.
 

Maine Brookies

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Bob - In addition to what Tet said, you can also achieve this in some instances by harvesting at different stages of ripening. If it take my Bubba when it's 80% cloudy i get a product that works well for my ADD. If i wait until it's 40% or so amber it's great for my knee pain.
 

maineyankee

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Great info Tet and MB. This is exactly the kind of info that I am looking for. So the earlier I harvest (But not too early) I take it the easier and milder the THC would be. So in essence, I could take the total of the (4) NLB's that I have in flower,... cut them down one by one at a different stage, ...and get somewhere in tune with the varying amount of THC generated at that point. I am quite sure that the first harvest would be somewhat of trial and error, but as my experience gains, so will the distinction of what I am trying to achieve. Correct assumption?

Bob ~ The MaineYankee :-)
 

tet1953

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Aroma and taste are other factors I consider when deciding when to chop, but I look for about 15-20% amber.

I find it is very strain-dependent.
 

nl3004.kind

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also unless your nlb's are genetically identical, (eg from the same clone momma) you do run the risk of using the info from one pheno and applying it to a different one and if you did not keep a mother, you may find that those results will not be able to be reliably duplicated... also with sativas' i tend to let them go a little longer (20%+ amber trichs at harvest) just to cut down general speedy feeling that you sometimes get... indicas' (again, generally) i don't take more than 20% or so, too blonde and they tend to not really do the work i need them to do for my pain...

tet is totally right, it is extremely strain-dependent...
 

maineyankee

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Thanks everyone for the feedback. As far as "coming from one mother", I will have to ask the gifter on what she did, which should not be a problem.

Again, thanks so very much :-)

Bob ~ The MaineYankee :-)
 

katfan

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Question: Down the road,I will be ordering seeds, instead of my current way of growing, and that is by cloning. (This will happen when I get to my 4th Cycle of Grow, so still a ways away) but ... I am more liking the CBN aspect, rather than looking for the high. I suffer from major chronic pain, primarily in the lower abdomen/groin area, and need to still be able to function on a daily level. In time, I wish to have like 3 or 4 different strains in my arsenal, one that I can still drive, go shopping, everyday daily life, then another for when my pain level gets about a 8 or 9, and then a strain for couch-lock. Can you help me out in pointing me in the right direction as to where to look up this sort of material, and what strains work best for this type of program. The following is what I have read, and feel best that it gives me some information that a newbie would need to know, such as myself. Thanks in advance :-)

Cannabis contains a number of cannabinoids, of which the most abundant are THC (
D9-tetrahydrocannabinol), CBD (cannabidiol) and CBN (cannabinol). The active ingredient, which gets you high, is THC. In the plant, CBD is a precursor and CBN a metabolite of THC. As cannabis gets older, THC gradually breaks down to CBN.
THC is the substance found to have most psychoactive effect, and also the most effect on symptoms such as pain or bronchospasm. CBN and CBD are not psychoactive themselves, however CBD can take the edge off a THC high, tending to relax the user rather than increasing anxiety and paranoia. CBD has also been found to have anticonvulsant properties (potential value in treating epilepsy, MS, muscle spasms etc), and recently published research has indicated CBD to be effective in reducing neurotoxic brain damage following strokes or head trauma. The proposed mechanism of action also suggests CBD may offer some protection against ecstasy-derived neurotoxicity (long-term depletion of serotonergic receptors), although this has not specifically been investigated. CBD is normally present in significant quantities in hashish (cannabis resin), although in most herbal cannabis or "skunk" the levels of CBD are usually low or absent.Although smoked cannabis offers some advantages over oral preparations (rapid onset of action, ability to control dose), the smoke contains carcinogens, tars and other lung irritants which may cause respiratory diseases and lung cancer. The lack of an effective filter in "roaches" and the deep inhalation techniques used by cannabis smokers increases this risk. However the study of smoke composition quoted by the BMA and others referred to poor quality herbal cannabis smoked "neat", and the relevance of these results to tobacco/hash spliffs or high-THC varieties is questionable. At least one pharmaceutical company is developing alternative quick-acting delivery systems for plant-derived cannabinoid combinations, avoiding the need for smoking.
Also check out leafly.com they have a wonderful starter list of several hundred strains where you can put in symptoms that you have (pain, anxiety, depression, etc.) and then effects you want (stress relief, pain relief, happy feeling, etc.) and then they match strains to those particular needs. It gave me several ideas for my next seed order. I too am very interested in the project CBD strains as many of us. I'm starting to kind of see them as a "Holy Grail" of cannabis strains because they lead to pain and other symptom relief while at the same time allowing the user to function in society without the THC influence so many of us medical users want to avoid. I hear so many rec users brag about (how f'd up I got, and how "dank" that weed was" etc.) and what I want is to find some relief and feel comfortable without having to take so many damn prescription meds. Thanks for your post by
 

maineyankee

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Thanks so very much Kat. had a chance to troll on the Leafly.com site, and looks like it is the ticket for me to "tune in" what would be best for what "ails" me. Def a step in the right direction, and thanks again for putting it right under my nose.

Bob ~ The MaineYankee
 

katfan

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Thanks so very much Kat. had a chance to troll on the Leafly.com site, and looks like it is the ticket for me to "tune in" what would be best for what "ails" me. Def a step in the right direction, and thanks again for putting it right under my nose.

Bob ~ The MaineYankee
I do use a lot of quotes don't I? I write like I think I suppose. You're welcome btw. I just hope that I can grow accustomed to what I can and can't post on this site. I noticed one of my threads was deleted and then after reading another thread saw why it was deleted...
 
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