Looking for proof against my buddy's BS.

GemuGrows

GemuGrows

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Ok so one of my buddies always spouts off a lot of random BS about psychedelics when he's around users. He's a heavy psych user himself but he always makes a few points that are complete BS. I'm honestly sick of him distorting people's views, but i feel like I have to hit him back with evidence if he's going to give up. The point is his claims are outrageous and have not been studied. Or if its not BS then if you can find me some reliable articles on the topics that would be awesome, i haven't been able to find any.

Looking for evidence in-

+"Psilocibin, LSD, and other psychadelics make your brain bleed"
-^Ok I spent more time looking for proof of this online than I care to say today. People don't go out of their way to write articles about things that don't happen. I could not find anything beyond "No, psychedelics do not make your brain bleed"

+Another thing he was talking about is how you can pretty much have a (+4 experience) every time you take mushrooms if you only take them like twice a year, because your brain needs time to repair itself. (He then disregarded Shulgin, pihkal and tihkal)
-^I understand tolerance, but theres just like webs of BS in this claim.

Now the annoying thing is that this guy is a really smart guy; so when he spews this BS i feel like people take it to heart.

Just argue with me against these points so I can fill my head with better arguments. I would really appreciate it
 
TheTrippyHippie

TheTrippyHippie

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Dude it's not that it's untrue it's just exaggertated most of the time... Your brain doesn't fucking hemorrhage like these idiots say it does... Your brain is always bleeding lmfao. It's propaganda just like with weed dude. They say that your spine shifts and could hemorrhage your brain but that's bullshit. However your spine does shift a little.

And yes your brain needs time for the Serotonin receptors to heal. Or your trip may not have that full "whoa" effect. Two years is bullshit. If you trip once a month it will be a great way to reflect on the month and have a good time without overdoing it.

I bet there's tons of bullshit articles I can find and post here about weed being very harmful for you and make your lungs bleed and some other bullshit. There are a lot of people that spread the wrong information in articles and if you can't weave out the bullshit with the truth than using the internet must be very challenging for you.

You don't have a argument, just listen to your experienced friend that you told us was very intelligent. Why question that???
 
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GemuGrows

GemuGrows

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Oh no i have plenty of argument, I've just sort of been sitting there listening to these bits of BS popping up wayyyyy too often, and I just want to end it all in one shot. I want his BS to have nowhere to escape to.

Through my research i ended up learning a nutload more about shrooms tho.

Pretty much you eat Psilocibin, which undergoes dephosphorylation (loses its phosphorus) into Psilocin. The psilocin then crosses your blood-brain barrier and binds with serotonin in different areas in your brain. Or so I understand. No bleeding involved. Maybe some nasuea and hallucinations and other weird shit, but no brain bleeding.

I agree with spacing your trips around a month apart, two weeks at least. I don't think you need to space them as far as 6 months to increase the likelihood of a spiritual experience, but you cant be dosing all the time. (Not that I have experience dosing all the time with quantity, if somebody does and my opinion is inaccurate feel free to chime in).

psilocybin psilocin structure.jpg
serotonin.jpg
^Serotonin
 
TheTrippyHippie

TheTrippyHippie

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Your brain bleeds always you just stated that when you said "crosses your blood-brain barrier" I simply stated that there isn't hemorrhaging so your not going stoke out or anything..
 
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rory420420

rory420420

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GemuGrows said:
Ok so one of my buddies always spouts off a lot of random BS about psychedelics when he's around users. He's a heavy psych user himself but he always makes a few points that are complete BS. I'm honestly sick of him distorting people's views, but i feel like I have to hit him back with evidence if he's going to give up. The point is his claims are outrageous and have not been studied. Or if its not BS then if you can find me some reliable articles on the topics that would be awesome, i haven't been able to find any.

Looking for evidence in-

+"Psilocibin, LSD, and other psychadelics make your brain bleed"
-^Ok I spent more time looking for proof of this online than I care to say today. People don't go out of their way to write articles about things that don't happen. I could not find anything beyond "No, psychedelics do not make your brain bleed"

+Another thing he was talking about is how you can pretty much have a (+4 experience) every time you take mushrooms if you only take them like twice a year, because your brain needs time to repair itself. (He then disregarded Shulgin, pihkal and tihkal)
-^I understand tolerance, but theres just like webs of BS in this claim.

Now the annoying thing is that this guy is a really smart guy; so when he spews this BS i feel like people take it to heart.

Just argue with me against these points so I can fill my head with better arguments. I would really appreciate it
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seems his ego needs loss...
 
Hydrotech364

Hydrotech364

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I fuckin abused Psychedelic's as a youth up til today, LSD,Mushroom's,several research chemical's also.My IQ hover's @ 140...
 
atidd11

atidd11

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The IQ test is for dicks. U would kno that if u were so genius.

AND BTW BACK IN 2012 HYDROTECH364 ROBBED ME FOR TWO SPORE SYRINGES.
 
rory420420

rory420420

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Hydrotech364 said:
I fuckin abused Psychedelic's as a youth up til today, LSD,Mushroom's,several research chemical's also.My IQ hover's @ 140...
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did they make you seem intellectually hypocritical like the op's friend? he seems to take in folklore and make it fact in his own mind..i hope someone as self-proclaimed intelligent as yourself didnt have this happen due to psychedelic lacerations to cerebral matter..:-D
 
atidd11

atidd11

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Then he's got the nerve to write on my page that he's got reason to believe I'm FBI...

U been around long enuf hydrofag. U should kno this community here in HS doesn't support trash.

I think every times spoke to u; you brought up your IQ. Can't b that smart. Nd btw my "IQ" was 122 last I checked. Nd that was when I was 18.
 
TheTrippyHippie

TheTrippyHippie

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Haha, my boy has sheets of LSD shipped from SoCal. One of the dudes from his ring went to the post office and claimed his mail yo. Now that I would be pissed about.
 
atidd11

atidd11

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Got beat online. Straight ignored me!!! And he talked it up big said he was gonna look out. Nd straight robbed me.
 
atidd11

atidd11

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Thetrippyhippy.


HE BEAT ME FOR 2 SYRINGES. What's the point to that.

I see the point In stealing several sheets. Duh
 
atidd11

atidd11

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Questions like how many amps is a 9v battery are IQ questions. Has nothing to do with anything man. I hate IQ BITCHES
 
rory420420

rory420420

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TheTrippyHippie said:
Haha, my boy has sheets of LSD shipped from SoCal. One of the dudes from his ring went to the post office and claimed his mail yo. Now that I would be pissed about.
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why in the fuck would someone send L that had to be signed for,or picked up.and lets anyone but the sender know..straight amateur hour bro..tell him to wise up before hes got time to wise up.you,nobody should have known that.and just sheets? going for ten years,might as well bring the books...imo and ime.
tell him be safe.
 
TheTrippyHippie

TheTrippyHippie

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atidd11 said:
Thetrippyhippy.


HE BEAT ME FOR 2 SYRINGES. What's the point to that.

I see the point In stealing several sheets. Duh
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Damn yo he beat you up for $20? Man thats foul... my dude didn't even fight for those sheets when he was robbed. He went along with the typical stoner "Karma will get em"
 
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