Subcool (and The Green Avengers (TGA)) is probably the most widely respected breeder on the forum, breeds specifically for medicinal effects for the medical community, has some of the most potent and tasty strains on the net, and is just about the least expensive beans on the net (to get a strain growing, not per bean).
I've got Jack The Ripper, Jillybean and Pandoras Box beans germing this week - I've done a lot of research on the guy and his beans, read a lot of reviews around the net, the highs/stones from his genetics are very well reviewed. Supposedly easy plants to grow.
Unlike most other breeders Subcool lists the effects for each strain so you can breeze through and pick the strain that would work for you. At Subcools prices you can afford to pick two or three strains for the price of one from another breeder, better the chance of getting a good strain the first try (I've been trying different strains for years and I'm just settleing with my set now). There are a few people on this forum who've grown his beans, if you start a thread asking "What Subcool Strain Is Best For Pain?" I'm sure people will help you to narrow your pick to two or three strains.
From the reviews I've read, and the descriptions, the strains I'd look at would be Querkle, Astro Queen and Vortex. Each will be good with pain, one may work better than the others for you, and each have a different perceptual effect depending on what you need to manage the pain and still function as needed - narcotic, knockout, clear.
I thought Subcool had a forum or website but can't find the link on this computer. Does anyone else know if there is one?
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Agent Orange
Orange Velvet x Jack The Ripper
- Highly recommended!
- Orange tasting strain
- highly potent
- immediate medicinal effects
- high resin content plants
- High Yield
- 55- 60 days bloom cycle
- appetite stimulator
Candy taste and pain relieving effect. bred with the notoriously potent flagship strain " Jack The Ripper". Combined to create a perfect hybrid potent, tasty baseball bat colas of weighty frosty orange buds, simply an all round excellent strain.
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AstroQueen
Astroboy x SpaceQueen
- Indica/sativa: 60%-40% Hybrid
- Flowering time 55-58 days
- Resin Production : very high
- Effect : Narcotic,Medicinal
A large watermelon trait female was pollinated with our proven space queen male.The resulting cross yields very unusual tasting hybrid with with flavors from cherry to watermelon. The high is very intense and is reported by smokers as trippy and good for pain relief. Females are very similar with heavey resin and a fruity smell and taste. very mind expanding and visual,very much a head high. Harvest window is 8 weeks...
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Jack The Ripper
Jacks Cleaner F1 x Space Queen
Some think its a violent sounding name for a cannabis strain but its name is an attempt to convey the roar potency this excellent medicinal hybrid posseses, a true instant stoned to the bone. Very effective pain relief type of smoked or vaporized.
- Super Potent
- Short Squat little stretch 2x max ( depending on veg time)�
- Extremely High Resin Content
- Distinctive Lemon Smell
- Medicaly Effective- pain & anxiety relief
- Good Yielder
The mother plant Jacks Cleaner F1 has obtained urban legend status due to it's hard to get nature and folk tales of lethal potency leaving men dazed. The Space Queen is one of the best tasting strains I have tasted in years and still packs incredible resin and potency and unmistakable lemon qualities but with a definite haze fuel like undertone on the exhale.
The JTR seeds are tremendous in size and extremely dark and striped in the classic form of JC crosses.If you liked JCB or JC bx this is the collectors strain for you. 8 weeks + Sativa Hybrid
- Resin Rockets
- 8 weeks flower
- 2x stretch
- devastating High very potent
- extreme lemon taste and smelll
- very haze liketastes
- Indoor
- SOG Suitable
If you want Jacks Cleaner Genetics then you should look no further than JTR excellentin all departments one of the only 8 week haze tasting plants.
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Here's Hemp Depot's descriptions:
Jack the Ripper
Jacks Cleaner P1 X Space Queen
A true 8 week Sativa Haze the first thing growers notice is the incredible lemon smell and heavy resin production. It has been described by UK growers as the best 8 week haze ever produced.
This plant will produce triangle shaped spear buds that pretty much stopped active calyx growth early and produced copious amounts of resin instead, resin production was evident from day 12 in 12/12 but really started to fatten up the heads around day 50 or so.
I find it performs best untopped with a long vegetive period. The high is very creeper at first you may think that its not so strong but then whammo...it hits you hard and there's no turning back then...you will be deep in thought and meditative for quite some time...the duration and intensity is strong and thought provoking.
Phenotypes: Two main phenotypes both with a Lemon Haze smell and short growth one tends to be more a pine smell.
Height: Look for the Short Pheno/ Colas swell late
Yield-Medium: Heavy / Moderate trim work
Best way to grow: Untopped and vegged to a full bush.
Harvest Window: 8-9 weeks
Sativa/Indica: 70/30
Hybrid: Pluton X Purple Haze X Lambsbread X NL X Jack Herer X Romulan X Cindy99BCGA
High type: Intense, trippy, visual, phase shifting, increased heart rate, heavy crash, increased appetite, pain relief, paranoia
Taste Like: Lemon mango pine hash with a heavy haze influence
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Jacks Cleaner 2
I truly feel it’s the most dominant strain I have ever worked with. Lemon and resin are always passed on in spade, these are very stable displaying only a couple of phenotype, no matter which phenotype you get its heavily lemon, mango fruit and will produce large thick plants with an exceptional high. Developed: TGA (Spain)
- 60% Sative / 40% Indica
- 65-70 days bloom
- SOG Suitable
- Heavy Odour
- Lemon and ground coffee aroma
- Very High Resin Profile
- Stocky Vigorous Plants
- indoor/outdoor
- appetite stimulant
- Exceptionally medicinal and very moreish, please do not over indulge
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JillyBean
Orange Velvet x Spacequeen
- Indica/Sativa : 70%/30%
- Flowering Time : 50-58 Days
- Yield : Good Yielder
- Resin Production : High
- Smell/Taste : Mango Fruity-Cherry Fuel
- Effect : Body Stone , Very Medicinal
You dont really have to be a master breeder to figure out orange and pineapple mango flavour traits will be a good combination. The resulting outcross is remarkably stable and is close to a 50/50 representation of the parents. Topped it grows into a nice short bush with lots of side Branching and multi heads. Flavours range from orange, Tang,candy ,Mango,and apple. The cross works really well in SOG Or Scrog . Very Large stems and huge top colas make this an easy strain to grow in any medium.
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Querkle
- Flowering Time : 58-65 Days
Another knockout clone only strain,Urkle is one of the most sought after USA strains,its deep purple Hue's Make this plant a true spectacle to watch grow. As early as day 40 you will see her leaves change to a deep dark purple and now with Spacequeens mango flavours, resin profile and potency, this is sure to become a sure fire top strian. One of the only purple strains that will rip your head off... Top Bag appeal
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SpaceQueen
C99 x Romulan
- Bros Grimm Strain F2's
- Extremely Heavy odour
- Extremely Heavy Taste
- Extremely Heavy Resin Production
- Very Medicinal
- 7-8 Week Bloom
- needs support due to weight of buds
- beautiful candy likedried texture.
Spacequeen is a very special strain indeed. On our first run of her we first saw the resin building long before day 30 and as you will see at day 33 they will be just oozing resin.By Day 38 I was smiling big as they took on that famous Brothers Grimm C99 Smell with a hint of what I know know as Joe Pine Romulan. Excellent breeding gene pool, high potency, high yield with excellent bag appeal.
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The Flav
Astroboy x SpaceQueen
- Indica/sativa: 60%-40% Hybrid
- Flowering time 55-58 days
- Resin Production : very high
- Effect : Narcotic,Medicinal
Selecting from our own cross,Astroboy a large watermelon female was pollinated with our proven space queen male.The resulting cross yields very unusual tasting hybrid with with flavors from cherry to watermelon. The high is very intense and is reported by smokers as trippy and good for pain relief. Females are very similar with heavey resin and a fruity smell and taste. very mind expanding and viual,very much a head high. Harvest window is 8 weeks.
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Third Dimension
Apollo 13 x JTR
- 70%Sativa 30% Indica
- 2 x Stretch
- Heavy Resin Production
- Vigorous Growth
- Heavy Blooms
- High Odour
- Apple, watermelon flavours
- 8 - 9 week bloom
- Indoor suited
- Clear thought provoking effect
Exceptionally potent plants that ooze with resin and need support due to abundant heavy blooms.
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VORTEX
Apollo 13 x Space Queen.
- Flowering Time:58-65 Days
- Resin Production: Very High
- Smell/Taste: Spiceyfruit/Cherry
- Effect: Clear/Pain Relief
Apollo 13 is another legendary clone only strain in the USA.It was used as the seedbearing parent in this awsome cross.Its a sticky,milky,sweet tasting plant that has a very uplifting high,very enjoyable,puts you in a very creative mood. Again Spacedude has passed on the cherry like sweet fruit undertone to an already complex apollo Flavours. Excellent toke for daytime non confusing and clear,each toke is a tasty treat which usually leads to smoking excessive amounts,leaving the smoker in a daze. Can creep up on you. Excellent stout structured and vigorous plant.
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if anyone out there could help me out with some names of strains and the places to get em, id appreciate it !!!! thanks and happy growing and smoking to all!!!!
So do these companies deliver to the US?