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Discussion in 'Michigan Patients' started by kermit2692, Dec 23, 2017.

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    Bigtacofarmer

    Bigtacofarmer Well-Known Member


    This is not a problem. If you cannot keep a pest free room and test your product to prove it is free off all contaminates you have absolutely no right being in any cannabis business.

    Knowingly adding poison and selling it is just like an act of violence in my opinion.
     
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    DirtyEyeball696

    DirtyEyeball696 Well-Known Member

    Most people have never had their cannabis tested& most people I know still have bugs in one respect or other including fungus gnats like myself but I’m still seeing a lot of black ash when I’m smoking others smoke. Nothing has changed in 10yrs only the strains. People “not everyone” still think it’s just a plant and you just need to water it. I remember a fellow club member telling me after I asked him where the crystals were, he said he sells it cheap and uses cheap nutrients therefore he has cheap looking pot. I was shocked to hear that. Some just don’t care about quality


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    Bigtacofarmer

    Bigtacofarmer Well-Known Member

    Most people need a new job. Gnats are easily eliminated with beneficial bacteria. As are aphids. Mites and thrips need to be eliminated in veg. No pest should be in flower. Period.

    I am hoping you have cleaned your methods up since you last mentioned your pest removal techniques.
     
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    DirtyEyeball696

    DirtyEyeball696 Well-Known Member

    If you’d like to see my test results your more than welcome. And who are you too tell me what technique is right or wrong? & lmfao at the beneficial bacteria. That’s just something they started selling almost like mighty wash is garbage also. Beneficial bacteria was made up for growers who were having problems growing and your growshops Love you. what’s your definition of beneficial anyway. And Bacteria? No thanks no wonder your ash burns black.


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    TheMan13

    TheMan13 Well-Known Member

    BTi is a biological or a naturally occurring bacterium found in soils. (BTi is short for Bacillus thuringiensis subspecies israelensis.) It contains spores that produce toxins that specifically target and only affect the larvae of the mosquito, blackfly and fungus gnat. EPA has registered five different strains of BTi found in 48 pesticide products that are approved for use in residential, commercial and agricultural settings primarily for control of mosquito larvae.

    https://www.epa.gov/mosquitocontrol/bti-mosquito-control
     
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    Bigtacofarmer

    Bigtacofarmer Well-Known Member

    I have been using it sucessfully since about 2002 whenever I see a gnat.

    The mosquito dunks have been weak before. But the bti from amazon works great every time.
     
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    Bigtacofarmer

    Bigtacofarmer Well-Known Member

    Which labs in Michigan tests for pesticides or fungicides?
     
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    TheMan13

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    TheMan13

    TheMan13 Well-Known Member

    February 8, 2018 – The Dept. of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs (LARA) reminds prospective medical marihuana license applicants that the deadline for applicants currently operating with local approval is February 15th.

    For these prospective licensees to avoid facing an impediment to licensure, the applicant must be operating a proposed medical marihuana facility within the boundaries of a municipality that had adopted an authorizing ordinance, and must submit a complete prequalification application byFebruary 15, 2018, with an attestation that affirms local approval of their temporary operation.

    On November 1, 2017, LARA announced its intention to allow proposed medical marihuana facilities to continue to operate with local approval without impacting the applicant’s eligibility for licensure under the MMFLA. In December, LARA issued emergency administrative rules, which set forth regulations for the temporary operation of these medical marihuana facilities, in limited circumstances.

    Per the emergency rules, proposed medical marihuana facilities that have continued to operate with local approval must cease operations if any of the following are true, or risk denial of licensure:

    • A completed prequalification application – including the local attestation form – is not turned into LARA by February 15, 2018.
    • The applicant has been denied state licensure.
    • The applicant has not been issued a state license by June 15, 2018.
    Noncompliance is grounds for disciplinary action and referral to law enforcement for unlicensed activity. Until a license is received from the state, the operation of a proposed medical marihuana facility should be considered a business risk by the operator. Unlicensed activity may be forwarded to the Michigan State Police and the Attorney General. LARA and the Medical Marihuana Licensing Board expect to begin issuing state operating licenses in April.
     
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    DirtyEyeball696

    DirtyEyeball696 Well-Known Member

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    DirtyEyeball696

    DirtyEyeball696 Well-Known Member

    And I could care less about the new seed to sale law I just thought I’d comment on some rich guy looking for someone to do all the work. I’m never going to leave the medical program doesn’t make sense jumping through all those hoops just to sell a bag of weed. Love the black market


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    TheMan13

    TheMan13 Well-Known Member

    I think it behooves MMMA patients and caregivers to pay attention to this MMFLA scheme and roll out, especially those deadline dates quoted. Let's not forget LARA has granted unprecedented millions that they overcharged us in MMMA fees to local law enforcement this year for "compliance". If that's not bad enough, consider that many of those same local law enforcement agencies literally have a financial interest and prominent roll in MMFLA. I don't want to fear monger here, but I see more that a few ways things could go awry ...
     
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    MichiganMedGrower

    MichiganMedGrower Well-Known Member


    When I warned of this a while back you got very upset with me and defended them. You implied I was a “fear monger”.

    When we inevitably go rec it will get much worse as their tax profits grow.
     
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    TheMan13

    TheMan13 Well-Known Member

    Really:confused: I'd love to see that quote you are misinterpreting or wrongfully associating with me ...

    I believe once rec hits medical rights will finally receive the respect they deserve in our courts of "law".
     
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    MichiganMedGrower

    MichiganMedGrower Well-Known Member


    We had a long back and forth I didn’t mean to start as an argument months ago. I don’t keep records of past thread conversations. I don’t know exactly when and where it was.

    The gist was that I recommended laying low or getting out of the program. And not to take on max patients as a caution because I think they may go after caregivers after the stores.

    You did not like that opinion much.

    There was nothing in your comments to mis-interperate. I said it sounded like you were a lawyer or had interest in dispensaries. You said that is not true.

    It ended up a battle of ego and we conceded to disagree.
     
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    TheMan13

    TheMan13 Well-Known Member

    I've never had any interest ($$$) in, but have supported the unregulated medical marijuana market (to include "dispensaries"), the second largest such market in this country that our MMMA patients and caregivers have clearly relied upon for uninterrupted access for the past decade. There have been no inconsistencies in my statements or understanding during that time.

    I'm definitely not a lawyer, but do have a non drug war/prohibition law enforcement background and education. I know the game well as it pertains to LEO administration and public policy. It is the duplicitous business model of politics, lawyers and lawfare/regulatory capture in general that honestly concerns me.

    I'm sure I sound like a madman to many who fail consider/understand my context. Partisans discount me out of hand as a crazy Libertarian. I cannot recall all of the fools here that have resorted to name calling in their "battle of egos" that have called me a Republican LoL

    I think the conversation/education is important here. Attempting to fit folks into groups of people to generalize them is never helpful ...
     
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    MichiganMedGrower

    MichiganMedGrower Well-Known Member


    Yeah you kept hiding your insecurity and insults just like that.

    I’m not getting into this again.

    “Failed to consider/understand my context” lol.

    Sorry I commented to you. You just argue with a word salad regardless of the info stated.
     
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    TheMan13

    TheMan13 Well-Known Member

    Yeah I'd appreciate if you could refrain from directing your ignorant and indefensible comments my way as if you have a clue.

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    MichiganMedGrower

    MichiganMedGrower Well-Known Member


    You remain stuck in your loop of pseudo legal talk and silly pictures.

    If you were so intellectually competent as you suggest you would remember our conversation.
     
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    pergamum362

    pergamum362 Well-Known Member

    Black ash...a commen and wide spread bit of misinformation being that no flush or over use of nutrients causes this- completely wrong. The drying processes and the “cure” or chorophyll purge, a natural process in which the dried buds try to save themselves by comverting that chrophyll into something else more tasty and less harsh. So black ash..means a rushed drying process or an incomplete or improper cure. Anyone can test this themselves. Leave a nug that burns black ash out for a week or two, the. Roll it up and witness the difference.
    Bti for the win against gnats.
     
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