justjoeking
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The double ended also help with the stretch since they have light in the 600'snm along with a pretty full lower spectrum so its a gentler transition on your plants when you switch them to hps
Looking for best posible veg lights
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JimmyIndica
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I cant figure out why people still veg under MH.
nomofatum
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I guess that depends on what you are comparing. MH vs 6500k COB will give similar results and use less power on the COB, but HPS or warm white (2700-3500k) COB won't come close to replicating the bushy results of 6500k range (MH) light.
legallyflying
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MH for the win. I like the blue ice 5500 myslef. Closest thing to the hortilux blue and half the price.
To the above poster..if you "can't believe people still veg under MH" what exactly are you vegging under? Pictures?
To the above poster..if you "can't believe people still veg under MH" what exactly are you vegging under? Pictures?
JimmyIndica
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For years T8s and T12s. LED now. I cant seem to upload pics now. I m tryin. As soon as this site lets me download. I got the pics! Or I got pics over in the if your new to led thread! I just turn down blues/turn reds up on the K5 and flip switch for the reds on the A51s.
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JimmyIndica
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Only way I would consider MH/HPS would be commercial setting. That's if I couldn't get the AT600s to fill the space. But small to midrange grows its quality LED panels all day and twice on sunday!
JimmyIndica
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30 days veg ,44 day flower
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JimmyIndica
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That's a proper veg setup!
legallyflying
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Yeah, my setup is, well, slightly larger
JimmyIndica
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NICE!
legallyflying
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The plants looked beat up and in trained as we just moved them in that day. Here is an end of week three photo for shits and giggles. alwaus nice to have a little bud porn
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Alienwidow
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Wellllllllll.....they only pull just over 400 watts compared to the 1000 watt option the op was considering. So by having two next to each other your pulling only like 850 watts and covering more room than a 1000 watt would. Also they fire slower and draw less quickly on a breaker box than a 1000 watt. That has nothing to do with efficency but it can be a good thing if the breaker box is tripping because its full. And bro, you dont have to tell me about penetration and all that jazz. I run de lights just like every other sealed room pro out there.
ServingSize1oz
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A 600w hps would still be better than the T5s.
JimmyIndica
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are the 600watt hps better than say? A quality induction fixture? How bout 400 watts of quality led panel?
ArthritisPain
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I know I am just a no one when it comes to knowing anything, lol, but I went with the 4 foot 8 bulb T5's from Apollo.
I freaking love them too, they do produce heat within a couple of feet too, was really suprised...Here is the info I read that lead me to my purchase...
Product Description
Apollo Horticulture is pleased to present a new wave of efficiency and stability to their line of Grow Lights by introducing the new T5 Grow Light System. Our T5 System is designed to compete with high intensity discharge bulbs in terms of light intensity and output. This Grow Light is formulated to offer you the following benefits:
Efficient: T5 Bulbs are small in diameter, but work as bright and efficient light sources. The electronic ballasts used in the T5 lighting applications run well over 100,000 start voltages before they begin to lose their efficiency. Additionally, the average useable life span for these bulbs is well over 20,000 hours.
Dependable: Man-made light sources experience some level of lumen depreciation over time. Lumen depreciation is the light source’s ability to retain high lumen output levels throughout the source’s rated life. T5 fluorescent bulbs will only depreciate between 8 and 10 percent of their rated lumen output throughout their lives.
Cost-Efficient: Less wattages = lower cost. A key factor in switching to T5 lighting is its ability to not only produce better light, but also to do so while consuming far less energy. Apollo Horticulture’s T5 Grow Light is much more cost-efficient to maintain over time, and by switching over, you will be able to reap its’ benefits in no time.
Superior Plant Health: T5 lamps promote incredible health and bloom of seedlings and cuttings. With Apollo Horticulture’s T5 System, root development will be superior to other lighting sources. Furthermore, it is also able to produce enough light for full-term growth. Combined with T5’s efficiency, the lamps can be placed 6-8″ above the plant canopy to maximize photosynthesis response.
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I freaking love them too, they do produce heat within a couple of feet too, was really suprised...Here is the info I read that lead me to my purchase...
Product Description
Apollo Horticulture is pleased to present a new wave of efficiency and stability to their line of Grow Lights by introducing the new T5 Grow Light System. Our T5 System is designed to compete with high intensity discharge bulbs in terms of light intensity and output. This Grow Light is formulated to offer you the following benefits:
Efficient: T5 Bulbs are small in diameter, but work as bright and efficient light sources. The electronic ballasts used in the T5 lighting applications run well over 100,000 start voltages before they begin to lose their efficiency. Additionally, the average useable life span for these bulbs is well over 20,000 hours.
Dependable: Man-made light sources experience some level of lumen depreciation over time. Lumen depreciation is the light source’s ability to retain high lumen output levels throughout the source’s rated life. T5 fluorescent bulbs will only depreciate between 8 and 10 percent of their rated lumen output throughout their lives.
Cost-Efficient: Less wattages = lower cost. A key factor in switching to T5 lighting is its ability to not only produce better light, but also to do so while consuming far less energy. Apollo Horticulture’s T5 Grow Light is much more cost-efficient to maintain over time, and by switching over, you will be able to reap its’ benefits in no time.
Superior Plant Health: T5 lamps promote incredible health and bloom of seedlings and cuttings. With Apollo Horticulture’s T5 System, root development will be superior to other lighting sources. Furthermore, it is also able to produce enough light for full-term growth. Combined with T5’s efficiency, the lamps can be placed 6-8″ above the plant canopy to maximize photosynthesis response.
Product Details
- 1 – Apollo Horticulture Lighting System with a 7.5′ Grounded 120V Power Cord
- Package Includes 8 -54W T5 Fluorescent Bulbs – 6400K
- Fixture Measures – 48″ x 24″ x 2″
- Total Wattage – 432W / 4.0A
- This lighting system can be hang 3 ways – Overhead, Vertical, or Horizontal
ArthritisPain
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Jesus freaking Christmas Look AT THOSE TREEEES!!!!!!!!! Who has 20 foot ceilings in their gosh damned flower room though, lmao!
nomofatum
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Some silly marketing. T5 has it's place, but, IMHO it's either as side lighting or as supplemental to a HID or LED. 95lm/w can't compete well with 150lm/w.
ArthritisPain
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I am not with them in any way sir, and I did start off by saying I know nothing and am no one, lol, I am sure, and I mean that, you are way more qualified to answer, I was just pulling from the info that sold me on that system, I am new though, they just seem to be everything I will need for some time, when I am in some kind of experimental grower expert status I will try new shit, but then again, why would I change anything with what is not broken, who's too say....seems legit enough stat sheet too me, I own 2 of them and they seem as though I will not need anything for lighting for a long time, no bulbs, no bs, and a low bill....