Looking for a good fungicide to help keep bud rot at bay...

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Hey, all.
We all know that the outdoor season is upon us again. My situation necessitates me to grow in guerrilla gardens. For that reason, I always have a significant number of my girls that get ravaged by bud rot. I've tried different kinds. I always shake my budding plants after a good rain. I cut out the rot as it comes... Nothing seems to really keep it to even a manageable disaster.

My question is simple...
Have you grown alot of outdoor(non-greenhouse) crop?
What do you do to keep bud rot to a minimum?

PLEASE HELP!

Heres the shots from last year. These were taken in September...

I didnt know it at the time, but some of those buds in those pics already had the beginning signs of rot deep inside the bud.

Yeah sucks dont it.... I lost 5 lbs one year outdoors due to botrytis. Rainy season hit in fall before harvest...The follwing year I got some Green Cure Fungicide. I hit them everytime after it rained. I bent buds over to get inbetween them(always check buds daily when they bulk up and humidity is high and knock off morning dew) . GC gets its own sprayer and so does B. T. for bud worms (moths are nasty out here)

Diabolical666 said:

Yeah sucks dont it.... I lost 5 lbs one year outdoors due to botrytis. Rainy season hit in fall before harvest...The follwing year I got some Green Cure Fungicide. I hit them everytime after it rained. I bent buds over to get inbetween them(always check buds daily when they bulk up and humidity is high and knock off morning dew) . GC gets its own sprayer and so does B. T. for bud worms (moths are nasty out here)

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Thanx, man.

Very welcome.....looks like you grow the dank dank....good luck this year

haha. Thanx friend. This year I'm growing Critical Hog, Pineapple Chunk, Kushberry, OG18, Holy Grail Kush, Chernobyl, Heavy Duty Fruity, and all my freebies.
I started the Heavy Duty, and Chernobyl about 7 weeks ago. Theyre my only reg seed, so about 4 or 5 days ago, I filled my cloner and I got the mothers in a different closet, on 12/12... I'm sexing my mothers to identify males and kill them before I put them out... I also turned eight plants into 20-30 clones. Altogether, I hope to have more than 40 seedlings/clones. From those, I'll choose my best and brightest 30 to go outside.

Niiiice....IM trying the og18 outside this year also. I just picked up the strain a few months ago...IM stoked. Start a jounal on those bad jewels...I'll definitley follow!

I'll throw some pics up from time to time. I probably wont do a full on journal tho.

Spring huh? I got family in the Alamosa area.

They want me out there growing with them so bad. IIm waiting for my daughter to graduate, and I'll be out there with em.

Its awesome out here...you'll love it!!!

I start my mold prevention when picking my spring seed line up. A good mold resistant strain helps a lot. Each year I've been trying a few new strains and the rest are tried and true strains. We do grow in a greenhouse, but that' doesn't stop bud rot completely ether. Also try finding strains that finish faster.
Frisian Dew was are earliest strain, and no mold.
We also grew Critical Hog last year. Good smoke but one that we lost weight on. It's not in this years line up.
Dinafem Blue Cheese is another good resistant strain that's early.

A good site with a wealth of strain info. http://en.seedfinder.eu

MaiNiaK420 said:

I start my mold prevention when picking my spring seed line up. A good mold resistant strain helps a lot. Each year I've been trying a few new strains and the rest are tried and true strains. We do grow in a greenhouse, but that' doesn't stop bud rot completely ether. Also try finding strains that finish faster.
Frisian Dew was are earliest strain, and no mold.
We also grew Critical Hog last year. Good smoke but one that we lost weight on. It's not in this years line up.
Dinafem Blue Cheese is another good resistant strain that's early.

A good site with a wealth of strain info. http://en.seedfinder.eu

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Thank you. Yeah, my hogs got kinda bad last year too. Picking mold resistant strains can be a pain in the ass. Some of the dutch breeders will tell you anything to get you to buy their gear, ya know? I know I did Dinafems Blue widow last year, and had to completely take the enitire plants(all 4 of them) because they were riddled with rot, by the end of September.

You should try making lactobacillus. It's super easy, using just rice, milk, and molasses. The probiotic goodies from milk are boosted by the rice starch and molasses, and can cure mold, bud rot, and PM etc very effectively. I've used it to treat PM, and just to boost my plant and soil health as a foliar and soil drench. It's worth making even if your plants are healthy.

I can post a recipe if you're interested.

Potassium silicate.

I'm interested in that recipe!!

Greencure is for mildew. Try actinovate for mold. Also innoculate with high Tricoderma counts in the roots. Pick strains that don't have big dense buds that won't dry out. Thin aggressively all the undergrowth. Top aggressively so that you end up with more, smaller buds, that will dry out in the sun. Spray BT for caterpillars that shit in your bud and bring in mold. All of these tips are to be used well before mid flower. Prevention is best. I live in the PNW, cold wet end of season. All my outdoor finishes by the end of september.

MjMama said:

You should try making lactobacillus. It's super easy, using just rice, milk, and molasses. The probiotic goodies from milk are boosted by the rice starch and molasses, and can cure mold, bud rot, and PM etc very effectively. I've used it to treat PM, and just to boost my plant and soil health as a foliar and soil drench. It's worth making even if your plants are healthy.
I can post a recipe if you're interested.

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Im definitely interested!
Thank you.

calicocalyx said:

Greencure is for mildew. Try actinovate for mold. Also innoculate with high Tricoderma counts in the roots. Pick strains that don't have big dense buds that won't dry out. Thin aggressively all the undergrowth. Top aggressively so that you end up with more, smaller buds, that will dry out in the sun. Spray BT for caterpillars that shit in your bud and bring in mold. All of these tips are to be used well before mid flower. Prevention is best. I live in the PNW, cold wet end of season. All my outdoor finishes by the end of september.

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Thanx, calicocalyx.

Carolina Dream'n said:

Potassium silicate.

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Will try that on a few as well...

I just made a thread for this in the organics forum so more people can see it.

First, take a 1/4 cup of rice and shake it in 1 cup of warm water until the water gets cloudy.


This is harvesting the starch from the rice that will attract beneficial bacteria from the air into the water. Strain and keep the rice rinse water, and discard the rice. You can add the used rice to your compost pile so it doesn't go to waste. Microbes and whatnot love rice.

Keep the starchy water in a jar under your sink for a week or two to attract the bacteria we are seeking. After the wait period I drain off and keep the top 95 percent of the water and leave the thick white sludge that has formed at the bottom. We don't need that part.

Now, for every one part rice water, add 10 parts milk. So for 1 cup water it takes 10 cups of milk. Any type of milk is fine. I just filled a mason jar to the top and called that good enough. It doesn't have to be an exact science. Again, let this mixture sit. This time a few days should be all it takes for the milk to curdle. The milk solids will rise to the top and look like cottage cheese.


Strain out the curds and keep the yellow liquid that remains. Now mix the yellow liquid 50/50 with molasses and you have your finished product that can be stored for up to 6 months.

I use 2-3 tbs per gallon for foliar and 1/3 cup per gallon for soil drench.

The cheese curds can be fed to dogs or added to the compost. My dogs love it and it's great for their digestive health. It's a probiotic for plants and pets.

Some people have really liked Serenade to prevent mold.

Also, as many people have learned, a good spot is one that gets morning sun so the dew dries faster. Of course as others have mentioned, starting with a strain that has a low propensity for mold can't hurt. Be safe, good luck.