List of LP's in Canada for MMPR and Reviews by Patiants

gb123 said:

Really. What is wrong with you? Did you miss that question? Why did your GP say no?
Why did you have to pay 400, maybe because your doctor had a legit excuse to deny you??? Could be eh??!!
So , you hop o n this BS band wagon and PAY the system to get your script.
It's not me who is backwards and I'm not attacking you here. Anyone who would does this is what makes this system so wrong in the first place.
To much money and with no one knowing how to make it work.
Its a farce.

No offence BIg P.

PS...when your GP says No. Demand he or she find you one who will sign. They have to do that for you. It is your right. They are bound by helping you.

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I think it's kinda harsh telling someone their wrong for wanting and paying for a script......I total agree that people shouldn't have to pay for a script. But when you exhausted all other possibility. Whats a person gonna do..

Big Pauly said:

Dude. Why you gotta bust my balls on almost every comment I leave up in here? You run out of weed and hate scraping resin? Don't take it out on me FFS. Oh, and you really sound like a champ with all this " I did this and I told my Doc that"...Piss off, screw head.

Ya, sure, my Doc could have signed off but he said NO. What part did you miss in the NO. When a doc says NO it's NO, ! So I did what most people do and paid up. Now I'm good to go so get off your high horse and go bang on someone else's door.

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hes always bitter and grumpy. i assume that most just ignore his anti lp agenda as you would never get a drop of honesty out of this guy even if the lp s did something correct. your right he is probably out of weed and scraping resin. i get in the same mood when i run out. dont let him criticize what steps you need to take to get access to medication.

what a person supposed to do?
Exactly what I said you are supposed to do. Tell your doctor to find someone who will sign. Again It's your right and they will find someone. GARANTEED!!
To say you went by paying....PPPHHHTTT...I don't buy that crap. You have a right to ask for a doctor who can work with you. Paying is the easy way out and any excuse can be made. If you are indeed " sick " and need meds.
A GP will sign for free. Simple really.
My GP would not sign at first either. Explaining yourself helps though. No explanation only makes them say SORRY!!! and rightfully so. If ya wanna smoke for personal use, that's ok but don't use the "sick " deal to get there if you are indeed not sick.
Using that deal is what got us here (screwed the system) in the first place.

So .... why did you doctor feel you did not need meds again?

Bee green..lol just misunderstood.
Think what you may. It's obvious that's what you do when you read something you don't like.

lol

cheers

Plenty of us were forced to pay for scripts,when our GP's declined,based on and I quote " I don't believe in its use...." I knew I qualified for at least 3 or 4 different ailments
I then asked my Gp for a referral to someone that would....and I got the referral no problem.....
however the doctor I was referred to had retired a few month's before....so I waited an additional 18 month's for an appointment that would never happen...and I did my best to follow up myself but the Dr's office didn't take patient phone calls....
after 1 1/2 years of waiting I went back to my Gp and asked for another referral and was given a page of mmj friendly doctors....and was told to call them myself...
after trying a few I managed to reach Dr Kammermanns office and they referred me to a consultant and then a lawyer......
In the end it ended up costing closer to 1100.00 bucks.....so 400 is a steal in my books....
and in the end the doctor who reviewed my medical records said not only did I quailfy but I was not a B category patient but rather an A category patient instead...
In the beginning of my quest to become legal....I had not fore seen that the costs would be so extravagant to get someones signature...on a medical document....
but even my renewal cost was 250.00.
The best thing to come out of the whole exercise was my mmj doctor called my Gp's office and set my GP straight with regards to the use of and how and why to prescribe...
and now my doctor has called me a couple of times with questions....about the whole procedure and I think..... may be reconsidering prescribing for other patients in the near future.
I saw the whole thing as a money grab from day one...but after working thru my ordeal....to try and get a signature for nothing,,, only managed to delay delay and delay.
If you have a compassionate enough doctor to sign for nothing or next to nothing ....then consider yourself lucky....

Folks, it's been a money grab since around 1930 in Canada, right up to present day Harper madness for more money and more prisons.

regards,

gb123 said:

Really. What is wrong with you? Did you miss that question? Why did your GP say no?
Why did you have to pay 400, maybe because your doctor had a legit excuse to deny you??? Could be eh??!!
So , you hop o n this BS band wagon and PAY the system to get your script.
It's not me who is backwards and I'm not attacking you here. Anyone who would does this is what makes this system so wrong in the first place.
To much money and with no one knowing how to make it work.
Its a farce.

No offence BIg P.

PS...when your GP says No. Demand he or she find you one who will sign. They have to do that for you. It is your right. They are bound by helping you.

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Here's your answers, Oh So Mighty One.
1) I don't think it's any of your business what's wrong with me, you're not my Doc.
2) I don't recall you posing a question. ( more like I said, you were busting my balls.)
3) MANY GP's say no. Does that come as surprise to you?
4) I payed 400 because that's the going rate. and my Doc DID have a legit excuse - he's bound by the rules of the C.O.P.S.
5) YES, I payed to get my script. What's your problem with that? MANY have. Go jump on them a bit a catch a verbal punch in the mouth.
6) A farce? I agree

No offence taken. I'm not the only one 'guilty of your accusations

Quit riding me, man

you seem to miss one simple fact here.
...You need to be sick! Trying to persuade a doctor to sign when you are not sick will not happen lol
.Mighty one lol

You just don't like being called out when you go on about how you have to pay when in reality you do not have to if you are indeed sick!
Talking about having to pay when you do not have to is a mute point when you can ask them to find you another doctor.
You only re enforces what I'm talking about.


if no offence was taken, how do ya figure I'm riding you?
I simply do not like people who try and pull the wool over other people eyes when what they have to say is a HALF TRUTH...

beebell91 said:

hes always bitter and grumpy. i assume that most just ignore his anti lp agenda as you would never get a drop of honesty out of this guy even if the lp s did something correct. your right he is probably out of weed and scraping resin. i get in the same mood when i run out. dont let him criticize what steps you need to take to get access to medication.

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Thanks for the insight. I was anaiyzing myself and couldn't see where I was going wrong with these posts and the problem was not me, it's the scrawls of a disgruntled forum troll.

what was it you were spouting off about personal attacks? lol
who's zooming who here

hi gb123.....try and understand...that though its quite possible,for some people to be faking illnesses and applying for MMJ exemptions.....its is generally not the case....
some of us got a pretty rough ride by the health care system....for wanting to advocate for our own healthcare.....and we had no choice but to pay or wait possibly years....more...I don't know about everyone else but I am under contract with my GP,so running off somewhere else was also out...without at least cancelling first....and around here....there are no other doctors.

the MMJ doc I saw, was more than very thorough and took one and a half hours....going over my medical records.....alone..(fairly big and in depth files)
he also concluded a couple of things....that the other doctors has missed.....and turns out he was right...I could have done the skype thing cheaper I guess...
Anyhow I don't think I would consider gb123 a forum troll, since I know he is aligned with the correct side of this fight against HC,
just wanted him to see plenty of us....had no choice....really...
I just had a buddy apply....went to see his doctor in the city (TO), the doc signed and charged nothing at all...and its for slight shoulder pain....so go figure...

Understanding ...

here's some understanding for you.

I don't know about others but I broke the law to save my life and did not wine about it on any Pot forum.
"After" I did so, I then was able to get my script filled. It took me breaking the Law to make my GP realize what I was doing was working and was good!
So if you have to wine and lie about being sick and then complain about not having your GP sign...I have very little sympathy for anyone like that.

How's that for understanding?

no offence.

gb123 said:

you seem to miss one simple fact here.
...You need to be sick! Trying to persuade a doctor to sign when you are not sick will not happen lol
.Mighty one lol

You just don't like being called out when you go on about how you have to pay when in reality you do not have to if you are indeed sick!
Talking about having to pay when you do not have to is a mute point when you can ask them to find you another doctor.
You only re enforces what I'm talking about.


if no offence was taken, how do ya figure I'm riding you?
I simply do not like people who try and pull the wool over other people eyes when what they have to say is a HALF TRUTH...

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Your missing the fact...... Just coz your sick doesn't mean they will sign off on your cannibiss use. I had two conditions under the mmar that allowed me to be able to get my licence.....yet no doctors in My area would even consider it. So using your logic am I not "sick " enough to warrant my use.
Coz I sure feel like I am. And the fact that your here trivializing people is funny to me. What makes you the Arbiter of cannabis use ?

Did you ask for another doctor? How come I doubt that. It's not your fault. Not knowing what your rights are is though.

It's not my fault at all. I did ask for another doctor. Wasn't any with a 3 hour drive of me. Plus a 3 - 6 month wait period to get into to see them.....maybe. So rather then sit there like a tool. I took matters into my Owen hands made I few emails and was I front of a doctor in under a month. Had my ATP about seven weeks after that.....

So ya, I could of jumped through all there hoops and bullshit and I might of had my meds in under a year. But I chose the more direct and efficient method.

So don't shit all over somebody coz They did what They had to do. To get relief

cannadan said:

hi gb123.....try and understand...that though its quite possible,for some people to be faking illnesses and applying for MMJ exemptions.....its is generally not the case....
some of us got a pretty rough ride by the health care system....for wanting to advocate for our own healthcare.....and we had no choice but to pay or wait possibly years....more...I don't know about everyone else but I am under contract with my GP,so running off somewhere else was also out...without at least cancelling first....and around here....there are no other doctors.

the MMJ doc I saw, was more than very thorough and took one and a half hours....going over my medical records.....alone..(fairly big and in depth files)
he also concluded a couple of things....that the other doctors has missed.....and turns out he was right...I could have done the skype thing cheaper I guess...
Anyhow I don't think I would consider gb123 a forum troll, since I know he is aligned with the correct side of this fight against HC,
just wanted him to see plenty of us....had no choice....really...
I just had a buddy apply....went to see his doctor in the city (TO), the doc signed and charged nothing at all...and its for slight shoulder pain....so go figure...

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OK, I was hasty to call him a troll and retract that one but the dude is always busting on my posts. Anyway, People are people and there are no two alike so, I'll drop it.

Defending paying the system is sad and is what give other (feds Police, doctors)the idea that you are pulling the wool over our eyes.
It's whats making it difficult for us all and you're part of it.
Not sure how you can't see that simple fact.

gb123 said:

Understanding ...

here's some understanding for you.

I don't know about others but I broke the law to save my life and did not wine about it on any Pot forum.
"After" I did so, I then was able to get my script filled. It took me breaking the Law to make my GP realize what I was doing was working and was good!
So if you have to wine and lie about being sick and then complain about not having your GP sign...I have very little sympathy for anyone like that.

How's that for understanding?

no offence.

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I'm NOT sick, I have had successful lens replaced in both eyes, and continue to have migraines which my doctor said SHOULD be treated with "common" prescription for migraine relief; but not over the counter medications?
Like you, I have and will continually "BREAK THE LAW" for the benefit of my health, I have documented to the best of my ability four (4) different prescribed medications along with my "herbs" usage and sat with my doctor to review the medications usefulness and how it compares to how I feel when taking the "ILLEGAL herbs".

gb123 said:

Did you ask for another doctor? How come I doubt that. It's not your fault. Not knowing what your rights are is though.

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It's been three years and my doctor will not sign for me or refer me to a doctor who will, fortunately I am not waiting for him or any other doctor to grant me prescription for the medicine that provides the relief i need.

gb123 said:

Defending paying the system is sad and is what give other (feds Police, doctors)the idea that you are pulling the wool over our eyes.
It's whats making it difficult for us all and you're part of it.
Not sure how you can't see that simple fact.

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I'm sorry but your way off base on this, as posted above I would not pay but just because someone has paid or is willing to pay does not make it harder on anyone else. The system here is at fault and not the individuals who have to work around it, there are many sick individuals who are worried about their health first and foremost BUT are not willing to break the law as you and I have done and cannot or do not have the means to obtain a physician who is willing to reassess as your has.

gb123 said:

Not sure how you can't see that simple fact.

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ditto to you!

regards,

first I am in no way condoning a paying system.....and I had my eyes opened up for me when
this all began...but I also was the only person looking out for me in this whole process...pulling the wool over anyone's eyes was certainly never in the cards...for me..

Really I guess by that understanding, I should go without altogether..because somehow people like me are the problem.since, if I paid the fees I was charged to be seen by a compassionate doctor, then for sure I must be faking my illnesses.....and accept the fact the Medical MJ is only for those who have or can find a compassionate
doctor regardless of a persons condition....see I had no idea I was making things difficult for others....and I'm pretty sure my doctors know exactly what conditions I have....since they have no problem prescribing me fentanyl and other pain meds....
My Gp was afraid to prescribe. mmj ..would be my best guess and when that failed, I asked my other doctor who is a specialist in internal medicine....he supported my use but said he would not sign because he had no idea how to prescribe it.
You see I was looking out for myself when the healthcare system was letting me down....
I dropped 16 medications by eating/ vaping and smoking mj...
I doubt somehow I will ever be able to make you see gb that not everyone who paid money to a doctor,to be prescribed mmj, did it with the malice that you are describing....in your posts...
I would like to apologize to the OP for any highjacking of your thread.....
sorry if this appears to be whining on a pot forum......(edit)

I never intended to pay for my prescription i was merely passed along by my family dr who agreed that my many years of treatment for chronic nausea has been useless as the pills i was shoving into my mouth. But he claimed he didnt know enough about cannabis to prescribe and i wasnt going to be the one to educate him or wait for him to educate him myself. I was at the point that if he wasnt going to prescribe me i was going to dr shop until i found a dr who would prescribe cannabis. keep in mind i live in a village of 1500 people with only 1-2 drs. 5 hours drive away from the only city you will find decent medical care within the next 20 hours. He wanted to prescribe the cannabis but claimed he could not but knew a dr who would with his blessing. who is doing the wool pulling ? why was my dr okay with the prescription but only if his name wasnt attached ? this is the shit people have to put up with no matter what illness they have. your opinion is irrelevant and ignorant gb