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RM3

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What's your criteria, fluffy buds with trichs that degrade before senescence? If so, no. None of my buds meet your criteria.
Now you're just avoiding ,,, here let me copy it for you ,,,,,

How many of your buds meet this criteria ?

Potency, 1 bong rip gets you there
Legs, 1 bong rip last for 5+ hours
Tolerance, 1 bong rip always the same high, zero tolerance issues

All of mine do 8)
 

churchhaze

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Now you're just avoiding ,,, here let me copy it for you ,,,,,

How many of your buds meet this criteria ?

Potency, 1 bong rip gets you there
Legs, 1 bong rip last for 5+ hours
Tolerance, 1 bong rip always the same high, zero tolerance issues

All of mine do 8)
I only smoke a 1 hitter bowl each session, so I wouldn't really know. Yeah, I guess 1 bong rip gets me there since a 1 hitter does. I don't know what you mean with legs. I don't go for 5 hours without smoking again.

Bottom line is I'm not trying to compare my stuff with yours anyway. It's your stuff that's under scrutiny since you claimed it's the best.
 

jafro daweedhound

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To be honest, I kinda enjoy reading the threads that go sideways as it can be entertaining as just an observer, not fun when your the poster and your intent gets stepped on so much I guess. I think a lot of us have been there. And yeppers, I like Uncle Ben, he is a gruffy old dude but he knows his shit when it comes to plants and I well know there are some that disagree with that but I also am guilty of posting in threads to try and protect or steer new growers in a more sane direction. IMO once you move beyond new grower status, you should start experimentin with things and see for yourself. Much like I did in a thread here where defoil was concerned, I took 3 clones (same plant) and removed all the fans on one, some fans on one and no fans on one. The one with no fans removed yielded the most and the one with all fans removed yielded the least. I moved on. I didn't prove anything IMO and I wasted a couple ounces of yield but I saw for myself and have not done it since. With that said, I still tell new growers to do it and see for themselves, because that is what should be happening, it's how we learn.
When it cost you money its called an education, when someone else tells you its hear say...

If someone wants to know something they can google it or find it on some media format and they have the answer in minutes and then they know. Once appon a time in the dawning of modern cultivation no computers were around. We had to find things out the hard way more often than not. We used technical papers on things like tomatoes and cucumbers, asked old gardeners discreetly while trying not to say the "c" word (cannabis), or we seen something happening that was unusual and we wondering "why". Well google was not googling - and the most curious had some deep seeded desire to figure this out. There was always one of your friends that heard something and more often than not your next crop might be trying some of these "new " ideas or at least had them in the back of your mind to try and make sense out of it. Over the years new ideas like snake oil salesman have come and gone - remember the "Photon Chamber"? Ideas come and go s better ones come along. Point being someone had to find a better mouse trap.
People get stuck on a certain path and don't get off it because they feel they "know the right way" that is until the tides of accepted knowledge changes. Everyone you knows uses 18/6 light regime for veg/ 12/12 for flowering. They do this because they know it is right, we all know that...... What happens if you change that ??? what if flowering works better 24 on and 24 off, what happens at 36 hours on and 12 off ? 6 on/ 12 off ? Do you know ? I do- I have taken the time to do these and many other experiments with photo periods ( as one example) Like my opening statement that it is an education when it cost you money. I have been doing things that my peers have said I was nuts. And after over 30 years of being told that many of my first detractors now call me first when they have a problem or "crazy idea" to try something new. Many remember me trying something like that once years ago. Well to simply say something doesn't work is cheating yourself. True more ideas wont work than do. But not to keep your options open and to say we know everything is a dangerous and boring path to take On the other end of the spectrum are those who use others trials as their pissing post to try to keep them down. You cant explain what is happening so it really cant be working is the rout taken by some.
Keep an open mind, try to see outside your comfort zone, and try something new. watch what works for you. We have so much to learn that the future will look nothing like today - just ask yourself where in the evolutionary chain will you be standing ???
 

ttystikk

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When it cost you money its called an education, when someone else tells you its hear say...

If someone wants to know something they can google it or find it on some media format and they have the answer in minutes and then they know. Once appon a time in the dawning of modern cultivation no computers were around. We had to find things out the hard way more often than not. We used technical papers on things like tomatoes and cucumbers, asked old gardeners discreetly while trying not to say the "c" word (cannabis), or we seen something happening that was unusual and we wondering "why". Well google was not googling - and the most curious had some deep seeded desire to figure this out. There was always one of your friends that heard something and more often than not your next crop might be trying some of these "new " ideas or at least had them in the back of your mind to try and make sense out of it. Over the years new ideas like snake oil salesman have come and gone - remember the "Photon Chamber"? Ideas come and go s better ones come along. Point being someone had to find a better mouse trap.
People get stuck on a certain path and don't get off it because they feel they "know the right way" that is until the tides of accepted knowledge changes. Everyone you knows uses 18/6 light regime for veg/ 12/12 for flowering. They do this because they know it is right, we all know that...... What happens if you change that ??? what if flowering works better 24 on and 24 off, what happens at 36 hours on and 12 off ? 6 on/ 12 off ? Do you know ? I do- I have taken the time to do these and many other experiments with photo periods ( as one example) Like my opening statement that it is an education when it cost you money. I have been doing things that my peers have said I was nuts. And after over 30 years of being told that many of my first detractors now call me first when they have a problem or "crazy idea" to try something new. Many remember me trying something like that once years ago. Well to simply say something doesn't work is cheating yourself. True more ideas wont work than do. But not to keep your options open and to say we know everything is a dangerous and boring path to take On the other end of the spectrum are those who use others trials as their pissing post to try to keep them down. You cant explain what is happening so it really cant be working is the rout taken by some.
Keep an open mind, try to see outside your comfort zone, and try something new. watch what works for you. We have so much to learn that the future will look nothing like today - just ask yourself where in the evolutionary chain will you be standing ???
My lab is a testament to this very idea. I believe you'd feel right at home.
 

Sativied

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My lab is a testament to this very idea.
Oh please tell me you're just mocking yourself... :spew:

@churchhaze: I don't always boil my roots but when I do it's to eat them. I don't see the point of curing faster when a harvest lasts me months longer than it has to dry. I was just confirming the part that there is actual science you ignore.

No one ever said this but you LOL
Indeed, just another of his usual and transparent straw man attacks. No point in debating someone who so blatantly renounced the authority of reason, it's like giving medicine to the dead according to Thomas Paine.
 

Skunk Baxter

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I don't understand all this childish, senseless bickering over the leprechaun and his methodology, and it really gets way beyond tiresome. The man has developed a way of cultivating cannabis that works well for him, and everyone who has sampled his product confirms that what he does works extremely well. He's here offering advice and suggestions that everyone else on the board is perfectly free to either take or ignore - he's not trying to force anyone to do it his way.


A lot of what he says may be useless to most growers, because our preferred model is so different than his that we can't really incorporate his methods, but even then at least we know a little more about cannabis cultivation from reading what he shares. Knowledge which we may or may not use at some point, but either way, at least our knowledge of the subject is somewhat deeper and broader than it otherwise would have been.


Some of us have adopted some of his techniques and found them to be useful, some of us have not directly taken any of his advice but at least have made note of it and may use some of his suggestions to improve our own methods. I may never adopt a single technique of his, but a lot of what he has said is filed away and may someday connect up with other pieces of information to help me learn something new and useful about cannabis cultivation, and I greatly appreciate having him here.

If you don't like the way he grows, don't grow that way. But please, enough with the sniping and the bombthrowing.
 

ttystikk

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I've met him, he's a nice guy with a modest and completely compliant grow that happens to suit his needs very well. He's taught me quite a bit and I plan to put much of what I've learned from his setup to use elsewhere.

I swear, saying it every half dozen pages IS beginning to get old.
 

RM3

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Thank You !!!! ^^^^ @Skunk Baxter

The good news is that there a few that do follow me so my intent to not lose the info or the art is taken care of, it will live on 8)

Those that disagree are totally ok with sub par weed and I'm ok with that and I don't mean that in a mean way. Truth be told in the end the bitchin is about money as I discount a lot of the black market growing ways that turn fast cash. But even then they are wrong because there is so much more money to be made when doin things proper.

I gave a sample to a visitor once that got $50 a gram for it, yeppers guy bought 2 grams for $100 and it lasted him over a month. I had another grower that grew one of my strains out usin only some of my methods and got $70 for a 1/4 oz

Perhaps the notion that better herb brings higher dollar escapes those that troll ???
 

ky man

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Thank You !!!! ^^^^ @Skunk Baxter

The good news is that there a few that do follow me so my intent to not lose the info or the art is taken care of, it will live on 8)

Those that disagree are totally ok with sub par weed and I'm ok with that and I don't mean that in a mean way. Truth be told in the end the bitchin is about money as I discount a lot of the black market growing ways that turn fast cash. But even then they are wrong because there is so much more money to be made when doin things proper.

I gave a sample to a visitor once that got $50 a gram for it, yeppers guy bought 2 grams for $100 and it lasted him over a month. I had another grower that grew one of my strains out usin only some of my methods and got $70 for a 1/4 oz

Perhaps the notion that better herb brings higher dollar escapes those that troll ???
I just wish I could get some of all your beans to grow.YES better weed brings lots moor cash to my hands and thats all I try to grow...ky..ps top grad weed will sell when the less weed cant be given away..the people I deal with will pay top doller for the great weed...happy 2'20
 
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RM3

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I just wish I could get some of all your beans to grow.YES better weed brings lots moor cash to my hands and thats all I try to grow...ky..ps top grad weed will sell when the less weed cant be given away..the people I deal with will pay top doller for the great weed...happy 2'20
When it becomes legal to mail them I will happily do so but until then only way to get em is to visit me in Denver
 

ky man

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man I went to your site for just a few.Dam I would love some of that thunder express strain if I spelled it rite.I have never grown not even one plant indoors but this winter iam going to try and grow just 4 plants and see if I can.I wish you lived close to me I would take lessons from you.I liked the looks of all your strains.This winter I mite hit you up for some help on growing indoore if you don't mind..I will try to join your site soon.I love to read so I think I can learn a lot from your site...happy 4;20 and happy breading and growing to you...ky
 
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