Life isn't fair

Discussion in 'Spirituality & Sexuality & Philosophy' started by Padawanbater2, Apr 2, 2018.

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    Padawanbater2

    Padawanbater2 Well-Known Member

    Shouldn't it be, though?


    I come across people all the time who state this, as if it's some end all be all to the way life actually is without ever actually thinking about it. Life isn't fair, no, it's not, you're right. That's the fucking problem.. Life should be fair. It's our job to make it more fair than it already isn't, according to your own admission.

    Dickheads who use this as a justification for the abuse in our modern world can get fucked by the last white rhinoceros horn. Make life more fair, stop exploiting the weak for your own advantage just because you can make more money.
     
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    Bugeye

    Bugeye Well-Known Member

    Life will never be fair. Some kids will die young from cancer. Got a remedy? No. I think we have to do our best as individuals and forget about fairness. I'm for equality of opportunity but I think it is an absolute shit strategy to try and equalize outcomes, it just can't be done. Fairness of outcome is achieved at death.
     
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    Roger A. Shrubber

    Roger A. Shrubber Well-Known Member

    some people are nice, and some aren't. i don't think it's a choice for some of them. they've never learned how to deal with issues, they still get angry like children when something get's in their way. and if they haven't learned by the time they're in their 30s, they're never going to.
     
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    tstick

    tstick Well-Known Member

    As humans we are supposed;y at the "top" of the evolutionary chain -suggesting that we are superior...and yet, most people can't live outdoors, on their own.
     
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    Roger A. Shrubber

    Roger A. Shrubber Well-Known Member

    most people could, if they would bother to learn how. i was a boy scout for 8 years,and have lived in wooded areas my whole life. i wouldn't like to try, and i'm sure i'd make many mistakes, but i'm pretty sure i could pull it off if forced to.
     
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    UncleBuck

    UncleBuck Well-Known Member

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    abalonehx

    abalonehx Well-Known Member

     
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    Padawanbater2

    Padawanbater2 Well-Known Member

    That's all I'm arguing; equality of opportunity. Not equality of outcome. If each of us are born with the same opportunity, we have the same ability to produce the outcome. In our world today, we are not afforded the equality of opportunity. That's the problem..
     
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    ttystikk

    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    America has less economic mobility than any other developed nation.

    America is the only developed nation where average lifespan is actually falling.

    But there's nothing to see here, move along.
     
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    Padawanbater2

    Padawanbater2 Well-Known Member

    But you must be citing these facts because you yourself are poor. That has to be the only reason. Not because you care about the 50-60% of Americans who live in poverty. And because of that, your argument is moot. You're poor, so that's the only reason you want economic conditions for all Americans to improve, because you're poor. Did I mention that you're poor?

    Yeah, I'm right. You're poor.

    :-|
     
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    ttystikk

    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    It is unfortunate that a genuine altruistic desire for the improved economic health of my fellow Americans is seen with such cynicism.

    Would it help the emotionally myopic to know that I also believe that if my wrong class and even poor fellow citizens were financially better off that the entire nation- including even myself- would also benefit?
     
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    Drowning-Man

    Drowning-Man Well-Known Member

    I blame the internnet, cellphones, and social media. I remember a age before wife, laptops, cellphones, google and the such. Wish i had a time traveling car.
     
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    tstick

    tstick Well-Known Member

    Absolutely agree!
     
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    Roger A. Shrubber

    Roger A. Shrubber Well-Known Member

    some ...a good bit of that, is societal. some of that is from having parents that didn't try, and didn't teach you to try.
    i have personally seen dirt poor people claw their way up out of the shit and make themselves a good life, have children, and teach them the same values. white, black, brown....makes no difference. then i have seen dirt poor people who just sit on their asses and bitch about being poor....and teach the kids they can't afford to have the same "values"....white, black, brown, makes no difference.....
    you make a valid point, i'm not even suggesting we have a level playing field...but player motivation IS a factor
     
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    Bugeye

    Bugeye Well-Known Member

    Opportunity treats those best that have prepared for it or that have been naturally selected for it. What is the remedy? I don't see one. I'd like to live in a world where someone naturally talented in some area has the ability to pursue that talent. We all benefit, do we not?
     
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    Roger A. Shrubber

    Roger A. Shrubber Well-Known Member

    it would be nice, but most people end up doing what they have to do to pay the bills. how many DaVincis, Rembrandts, Rodins end up flipping burgers? how many hawkings, einsteins, or curies end up working in dead end jobs, their great thoughts just wasted fantasies as they do their menial work?
    we'll never know, we just have to hope that enough of them break the mold to make a difference.
     
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    Drowning-Man

    Drowning-Man Well-Known Member

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    Z3r0Z3r0

    Z3r0Z3r0 Well-Known Member

    I think someones out of pot......
     
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    ttystikk

    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    It takes serious cojones to step so far out of the expected role and do your own thing. I know, I've lived it and I've had to sacrifice a great deal to pursue my dreams.

    It should not be so hard to do.
     
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    Roger A. Shrubber

    Roger A. Shrubber Well-Known Member

    i think maybe it should....if you don't have the dedication and drive to climb that mountain, you don't deserve to get to the top of it
     
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