Lets talk stocks

bud nugbong

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Just wanted to make a thread where we could come and talk about the stock market and maybe share some ideas. Strategies, opinions and predictions. Would rather see helping and productive chatter rather than arguing and other bs.

I just recently got into stocks (wish I got in back in 09) I know im a little late to the party but ive got a decent plan and feel like I understand economics enough to run my own acct. Im not trying to make a living but hopeing to do better than the 1% interest from the bank. If I can do better than that Im happy. I also never ever gamble so this is like educated gambling for me.

As of now Im just establishing positions and hope to hold them all for at least a year to avoid short term gains. trying to stay diverse and alternating safe/risk. although cramer says at my age I should be doing all risky ones. My plan is 10-15 stocks I can hopefully watch grow over the years. but the plans could change for sure

best one so far DOW chemical. worst is JCP I bought at what I thought was a bottom.
 

BarnBuster

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One thing that helped me was a premium sub to Morningstar. I have NTF no-load mutual funds and ETF's. I personally never thought I was smart enough or had the time to invest in individual stocks. Also a big fan of Ric Edelman.
 

bud nugbong

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no danny boy no penny stocks yet. as of now I plan on buying about 1000$ of a stock at a time I think will do good over the next few years. hold it while getting the dividends and hopefully watching it grow. I think the only time I would sell is if a stock doubled I would sell half just to get my money back and let the rest run. and if I ever had a stock doing good and heard bad news I might get rid of some if its bad enough. but then again those could be times to buy in on a dip...Like I said im still getting into all of my positions looking for value and future growth. still learning as I go but ive got time to do the research.

and thanks for stopping in barnbuster ill have to look up ric Edelman.... NOE hows the tea and crumpet markets looking? thanks for stopping bye.
 

new2420grow

Active Member
Just wanted to make a thread where we could come and talk about the stock market and maybe share some ideas. Strategies, opinions and predictions. Would rather see helping and productive chatter rather than arguing and other bs.

I just recently got into stocks (wish I got in back in 09) I know im a little late to the party but ive got a decent plan and feel like I understand economics enough to run my own acct. Im not trying to make a living but hopeing to do better than the 1% interest from the bank. If I can do better than that Im happy. I also never ever gamble so this is like educated gambling for me.

As of now Im just establishing positions and hope to hold them all for at least a year to avoid short term gains. trying to stay diverse and alternating safe/risk. although cramer says at my age I should be doing all risky ones. My plan is 10-15 stocks I can hopefully watch grow over the years. but the plans could change for sure

best one so far DOW chemical. worst is JCP I bought at what I thought was a bottom.

Not sure how much you're planning on investing or what type of plan you've got into place, like setting up a set amount per week, month, etc, or if you just have one lump sum and plan on investing it now and watching the one nest egg grow. I also don't know your age or planned horizon, but I'm guessing you're in your 20's if you're saying that Cramer says you should be buying aggressive.

Unless you have an assload of money to invest up front, I suggest looking at mutual funds. A mutual fund like buying a block of many different investments. It creates diversity, which even when investing aggressive, will provide some downside protection.

There are tons of different mutual funds available. You can funds that contain nothing but stock, you can fund that contain nothing but bonds, you can funds that contain a blend of stocks, bonds, CD's, etc. Then there even more categories within each category. For example, you can have funds that contain all aggressive stocks or tax fee bonds, and so forth.

The great part about buying mutual funds, is that you can start with a smaller amount and you can add incrementally. Personally, I like a balanced portfolio of mutual funds. I'll split the total assets between 4 or 5 mutual funds to get a diverse blend, that will provide some returns and also some protection. One of my favorite type of funds to buy/sell are growth and income blended funds. These types of funds will have a mix of stocks from companies that may pay very little, or no dividends, but are expected to grow in price(this is the growth part) and they will have stronger, more stable stocks, that have a good record of paying consistent dividends. (this is the income part). I also like to buy a fund that is mainly bonds, something that will be like an ol mule, it's not gonna do anything flashy or fancy, but it'll pay a steady, consistent rate of return, that is really conservative against a down market. Then I'd throw in a couple more funds, in smaller percentages.

Most funds there will be a minimum first purchase requirement, anywhere from $200 to $1,000, but there are the few that require high initials, then after the initial, there will be a smaller amount that you are allowed to buy each installment. Some have no minimum, some have a $25 or $50 minimum, subsequent investment.

The big advantage that buying mutual funds over individual stocks is that you can way more stocks, way cheaper. For example, if you wanted to buy McDonald's stock, and had $1,000 dollars available, you'd only get 10 shares at today's price. But, that same $1,000 could get you into hundreds of different stocks, one of which may be McDonald's.

That's just my .02..I just realized how long this post is...Damn, a Financial Advisor should not get high, then peruse the section of RIU where people are asking about stocks....I'm going back to the indoor grow and autoflower threads :)
 

bud nugbong

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thanks for breaking that down newgrow, always good to hear someone elses strategies. especially from a pro. The only thing I have other than stocks now is a CD getting 1%. wich is really why I got into the stocks. I couldn't believe that was the most I could get at the time and figured I could do better. I quit drinking and cigs a few years ago so I have all this money to invest.

I will be making my next buy within a week was leaning towards FB I know its at its high but I wanted to get in at 23 now its mid 50s. I don't see it coming down and don't see why it wont eventually see 100s. any opinions on that?
 

heckler73

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I will be making my next buy within a week was leaning towards FB I know its at its high but I wanted to get in at 23 now its mid 50s. I don't see it coming down and don't see why it wont eventually see 100s. any opinions on that?
What is the FB business model? I know they aren't just a vehicle for advertising, but what other lasting revenue stream do they have (or can have)? I'd be careful with it, and wouldn't buy into it in one swoop. It would be better to space out your purchase over time, just in case the market decides to take it into a nose dive. I would also recommend reading any prospectus or MD&A recently issued (sorry, I can't remember off hand where Americans find that info. In Canada we use SEDAR for finding that stuff).

However, being that I haven't read their materials, I can only offer an opinion based on caution.
 

new2420grow

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I just don't know about FB. If you were one of my clients, I'd rate it as a slightly speculative stock and not advise you to put money in it, unless you already have a pretty well diversified spread in your portfolio. At the end of the day, it's always up to the investor, but personally, I don't ever recommend individual stocks unless the person already has some stability, or has enough money to buy considerable positions in quite a few different individual stocks. 100 shares of FB would run you nearly $6k, including commissions. I just don't trust a social media stock to be a large percentage of someone's portfolio. I would never advise someone to put more than 10% of their assets in a single stock. Not to beat a dead horse, but that's really one of the attractions about mutual funds. If you really like FB stock, search for some funds that include it in their portfolio.
 

bud nugbong

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alright you may have swayed me on that, I don't like to buy things at the yearly high but when I saw it go from 23 to 55 in 6 months it made me feel like I was missing out. Like I said I feel like in a year or 2 itll be at 175 and ill be pouting some more. But on the other hand I was looking into a fertilizer company that is on the rebound and still pays a nice dividend. might be checking that out instead.
 

heckler73

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alright you may have swayed me on that, I don't like to buy things at the yearly high but when I saw it go from 23 to 55 in 6 months it made me feel like I was missing out. Like I said I feel like in a year or 2 itll be at 175 and ill be pouting some more. But on the other hand I was looking into a fertilizer company that is on the rebound and still pays a nice dividend. might be checking that out instead.
That is one of the worst things you can let affect your decisions.
Never marry a stock.
There is a reason psychopaths make good traders; they eliminate emotion from their actions.

Which fertilizer company are you thinking about?
 

bud nugbong

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I am a rather heartless person, but I just feel like fb is going to be the next google. (based on ad revenue and the potential to buy new companys and expand for years to come.) If theres a dip in the future ill be sure to pick some up. As for the fert company I wanted to keep it a secret until I bought it. But ill give you a few hints. its symbol begins with u and its paying 10% dividends right now.

and Im thinking about ditching my PM stocks at a slight loss. really hearing bad things and I think I should get out sooner rather than later. Not 100% sure on that, but its possible.
 

heckler73

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I am a rather heartless person, but I just feel like fb is going to be the next google. (based on ad revenue and the potential to buy new companys and expand for years to come.) If theres a dip in the future ill be sure to pick some up. As for the fert company I wanted to keep it a secret until I bought it. But ill give you a few hints. its symbol begins with u and its paying 10% dividends right now.

and Im thinking about ditching my PM stocks at a slight loss. really hearing bad things and I think I should get out sooner rather than later. Not 100% sure on that, but its possible.
10% divies? That's always nice ;)
As for your secret fert stock, yah it looks not too shabby at all. I actually never heard of it before, but it is riding on the coattails of CF Industries.
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/12/09/1-dividend-ready-to-explode-in-2014.aspx#.UspWUrT9y20
 

bud nugbong

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I don't know if I mentioned it before but I think that the whole marijuana medical/legalization movement we are living in is going to have a great positive effect on the economy for years to come. (wait I do remember saying this but it goes saying again) All of the money that Is going to be saved by millions of smokers will come to billions of dollars that can be spent on something "more useful" (car payments, rent, food, other things good for the economy) I know that if I can supply myself that's 30,000$ saved in the next 10 years. all that would have been spent untaxed. and make someone elses life a lot better. Im glad to see the country waking up and even NY Is changing its tune on the medical mmj.

And I am just going to hold on to PM. I was just talking foolish. I know tobacco isnt as big as it used to be, but you still see young kids getting into them. I just don't hear much e-cig talk from them.
 

bud nugbong

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yea man I see bonerpill commercials on tv all the time it must be big business.^

As for me I got into that fertilizer company UAN with hopes of years and years of growth with the global demand for crops . plus that nice dividend. wish I had some of that MDBX it is up almost 50% today. I guess its just a fingerprint scanning drug dispenser company... I almost bought it yesterday but I was waiting for $ in my acct. and saw how much it went up yesterday, and thought no way that would be a good buy after that first jump. something to keep an eye on I guess.
 

heckler73

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yea man I see bonerpill commercials on tv all the time it must be big business.^

As for me I got into that fertilizer company UAN with hopes of years and years of growth with the global demand for crops . plus that nice dividend. wish I had some of that MDBX it is up almost 50% today. I guess its just a fingerprint scanning drug dispenser company... I almost bought it yesterday but I was waiting for $ in my acct. and saw how much it went up yesterday, and thought no way that would be a good buy after that first jump. something to keep an eye on I guess.
HOLY SHIT! That's quite the jump in MDBX. And what is this about Cannabis?
http://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/advanced-cannabis-solutions-closes-acquisition-cannabis-grow-facility-220000474.html

:lol: All we need to see now is WEED on the NasCraq
 

bud nugbong

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yea its going to be used to ID people at dispensaries I guess. shits been hot for the last few days. Theres going to be a lot of pot related companys blowing up.
 

althor

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Goddamnit. I made an account with TD Ameritrade this weekend inorder to buy stocks Monday morning.
Did a bank transfer.
Monday morning, I start clicking BUY BUY BUY to find out TD Ameritrade won't let you buy penny stocks for 3 days until everything clears.

In the meantime the 4 stocks I had planned to buy has gone up 423% since Monday morning.
Frustration that even weed isn't helping.
I will be able to start buying tomorrow, unfortunately I think they have reached their true market value now so they wont be jumping in leaps and bounds. Still, what I consider a good investment, especially when Washington St. opens their doors in a few months and there will be more leaps and bounds jumping.
 
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