Lets see how many fed led arrests happen after this....?

Well they say they are finally letting go, just like the current president so called did. In this article which was quietly, well OK not announced at all that they are leaving medical states alone:

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-medical-pot-20141216-story.html

We'll see

I saw a story on this the other day Cash and had the same feeling. I won't count on it. Trusting this is like being on a sinking ship and not rowing for the shore. What about the W's pat act that lists drug activity as terrorism, will this cross over to other branches like homeland sec?

This is different this time

Rrog said:

This is different this time

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Like this is different this time or
like this is differnet this time trust me?
It would be great, but only time will tell imo.

Sounds like a big deal to me.....I worry too whats going to happen come 2017

"The bill's passage over the weekend marks the first time Congress has approved nationally significant legislation backed by legalization advocates. It brings almost to a close two decades of tension between the states and Washington over medical use of marijuana.

Under the provision, states where medical pot is legal would no longer need to worry about federal drug agents raiding retail operations. Agents would be prohibited from doing so.

The Obama administration has largely followed that rule since last year as a matter of policy. But the measure approved as part of the spending bill, which President Obama plans to sign this week, will codify it as a matter of law.

Pot advocates had lobbied Congress to embrace the administration's policy, which they warned was vulnerable to revision under a less tolerant future administration."

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"Congress for years had resisted calls to allow states to chart their own path on pot. The marijuana measure, which forbids the federal government from using any of its resources to impede state medical marijuana laws, was previously rejected half a dozen times. When Washington, D.C., voters approved medical marijuana in 1998, Congress used its authority over the city's affairs to block the law from taking effect for 11 years."

cephalopod said:

I saw a story on this the other day Cash and had the same feeling. I won't count on it. Trusting this is like being on a sinking ship and not rowing for the shore. What about the W's pat act that lists drug activity as terrorism, will this cross over to other branches like homeland sec?

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GWB is long gone, we only now have to worry about that Romney guy, he be the worst thing to happen to marijuana, IMO

HLS can't do the raids either, its part of the federal government

^^ what he said

I have stated it before and I stick by it...Follow the money
If the gov can capitalize on this move they will. Hopefully we can all get back to growing and showing!

Ha, gotta love this title:
http://www.theverge.com/2014/12/16/7403337/congress-victory-for-medical-marijuana-in-spending-bill

Reading through the section they have posted here makes me wonder though. It reads to me that all they are saying is none of the funds can be used from that particular bill, it doesn't really say "Hey, were not going to bust anyone anymore for medical marijuana!"

My question to everyone here is when the arrests stop and full legalization hits what in the hell will all of you complain about?

not enough time to smoke it all

CashCrops said:

Ha, gotta love this title:
http://www.theverge.com/2014/12/16/7403337/congress-victory-for-medical-marijuana-in-spending-bill

Reading through the section they have posted here makes me wonder though. It reads to me that all they are saying is none of the funds can be used from that particular bill, it doesn't really say "Hey, were not going to bust anyone anymore for medical marijuana!"

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Thats true but then they can't get money to make any arrests.

That prevision was previously rejected a half dozen times in the past.

I think the DEA hands are now tied unless something more is going on. For sure the DEA will try different things now to twist things around. What, who knows, we have to wait and see. Maybe some agent will come inside looking to buy MM with some cocaine or heroin as a trade. Nothing surprises me now of days

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not enough time to smoke it all

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Exactly, now your talkin!

Funding drives behavior. Take away funding, and they'll move on.

If we could get this simple accommodation for BULLSHIT Civil Forfeiture, we'd be getting somewhere.

CashCrops said:

My question to everyone here is when the arrests stop and full legalization hits what in the hell will all of you complain about?

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Likely a 50% sin tax and IRS enforcement gone wild

If tomorrow the US Supreme Court ruled this last century of criminal substance prohibition known as the "Drug War" unconstitutional and a violation of human rights, sadly it would not stop the imprisonment and forfeiture this government has become dependent upon. I assume IRS agents in suits with briefcases knocking on your door will become a thing of the past ...

CashCrops said:

My question to everyone here is when the arrests stop and full legalization hits what in the hell will all of you complain about?

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Taxes and weather!

The problem we see is that they can take away funding, but until civil forfeiture is gone the drug warriors can fund themselves on the backs of marijuana.

I've publicly proposed that all drug forfeiture money be turned over to schools to fund band, arts, and sports. This can be done with direct donations by the task forces after they get their matching funds, or at their annual budget review by their local governments (ok your budget is 100K, but you got 75k in forfeiture last year so here is 25K for this year. Hope you put it in the bank chief). We need to fund education and our communities, not arrests.

The Cole memo gives some guidance to tribes and other states thinking about legalization or medical use, and the funding changes help, but MORE needs to be done about civil forfeiture to stop it being used to self fund and as a weapon on low level marijuana growers and patients or even recreational users. No one should lose their home over an ounce of weed.

Dr. Bob

I would rather see drug forfeiture money go to the people who are locked up in prisons across the country. It be only fair, it would help offset the costs of locking them up. Why should kids benefit from something illegal that was going on ? The people who broke the law seem more deserving of it, IMO

Better yet, maybe drug forfeiture money should go to paying off the national debt or maybe nobody should benefit from it..yep thats it, burn all the cash that is found and sell the goods and put that money to paying off what the country owes other countries.

The way it is now, the cops are better off kicking back and watching a small crime operation grow and get huge and then go busting the place and taking lots of money from them. Forfeiture laws just allow somebody else to benefit from an illegal activity and encourages the police to look the other way and not stop an illegal activity until its very profitable

While I don't necessarily agree with your ideas, we both seem to agree that those that seize it should NOT get it.