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Greengenes707

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whats the ip level of apache ?
UL damp location. Never went in for IP.
thanks for the info. so far i know only Osram ZELION and spectrumkingled has Ip65
For some reason I thought for commercial use 'UL Damp Rating' was more important than IP rating.
All depends on the country/state/city/county regulations and the inspector.
...or use both... UL Damp Rating and IP Rating too...
Bingo! When in doubt...do them all. What could be more better than being able to saying..."Ya, I'd let my baby take a bath with it; it's that safe. "

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Mary's Confidant

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For those who haven't seen this. It may be posted somewhere but I bet some peeps haven't read this. Not marijuana specific but interesting nonetheless.

http://cpl.usu.edu/files/publications/publication/pub__4124704.pdf

Spectral Effects of Three Types of White Light-emitting Diodes on Plant Growth and Development:
Absolute versus Relative Amounts of Blue Light

Abstract
..............These results confirm and extend the results of other studies indicating that light quantity
and quality interact to determine plant morphology. The optimal amount of blue light
likely changes with plant age
because plant communities balance the need for rapid leaf
expansion, which is necessary to maximize radiation capture, with prevention of
excessive stem elongation. A thorough understanding of this interaction is essential to
the development of light sources for optimal plant growth and development.

It's difficult to ascertain what can be taken from this and applied to marijuana. From what I gather, each plant type showed distinct developmental changes to varying the absolute and relative blue light. We can attempt to liken marijuana to one of the plants used based on phylogeny but it's an estimation at best.

What we need are RIU'ers to take the next step and duplicate this experiment with clones taken on same day, etc. We also need more than one person doing it so our data set grows, and with it, our confidence level.
 

Mary's Confidant

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A peak at the new Fluence Bioengineering / BML SpydrX and VyprX

It's strange to see "bioengineering" in the company name. Comes across half-baked, ha ha. I've worked with a number of bioengineers and I don't intend to pigeonhole the term but it's usually used for a different field of work. I suppose we can broadly use many terms, so we'll chalk it up to creative license (aka - attempting to win over weekend scientists)

And to be clear, I'm not well-versed enough to knock the product but it seems to be targeted at a certain demographic who may not seriously evaluate the claims. If someone gets one of these, I hope you'll document a grow journal so we can see what this "bioengineered" product does.
 

FranJan

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alesh

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IP65 or higher is the current standard for commercial use.
I've been thinking...I can do IP65 (probably even 67) on everything except power socket (C13-C14 currently)
RB-291_i1.jpg XXPWRC14.jpg ---- certainly not suitable for wet locations (or even waterproof applications)
What socket is used in commercial lights which have IP65+ (or UL Damp locations)?

All I could think of was not to use a socket and have the power cord hard wired, going through the panel with the help of a cable gland.
cable-gland2.gif ---- that would mean there would be a fixed length cable with a fixed power plug, also daisy-chaining could get a little bit tricky

I feel like I'm missing something obvious...any help is appreciated.
I'm also looking into using 5-wire cable (AC power + 2 signal wires), what about 5 pin plugs/sockets?

BTW Just found out that it's pretty cheap to have sheet aluminum (1-12mm) CNC milled. Seems like a great way to get a professional looking case for a reasonable price. Again any input on this is welcomed.
 

PurpleBuz

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I've been thinking...I can do IP65 (probably even 67) on everything except power socket (C13-C14 currently)
View attachment 3589635 View attachment 3589634 ---- certainly not suitable for wet locations (or even waterproof applications)
What socket is used in commercial lights which have IP65+ (or UL Damp locations)?

All I could think of was not to use a socket and have the power cord hard wired, going through the panel with the help of a cable gland.
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my illumitex comes with a heavy duty 6' power cable attached and sealed.

optionally you could provide a sealed junction box plus and leave it for the end user to wire the power cable into the junction box.
 

alesh

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my illumitex comes with a heavy duty 6' power cable attached and sealed.

optionally you could provide a sealed junction box plus and leave it for the end user to wire the power cable into the junction box.
In my experience, 'leave it to the end user' is a bad engineering approach :lol:
 

PurpleBuz

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In my experience, 'leave it to the end user' is a bad engineering approach :lol:
agree, but its commonly done for the final wiring hookup in industrial\commercial situations, since they often want to wire directly rather than use a plug.

eg S&P fans by default come without a wire attached and its up to customer for final hook up, and the junction box is suitable for a wet location.
 
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