Leaf problems

Budley Doright

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Ill get better pics up tonight or tomorrow and ive never used epsom salts but ill give it a try 100% and yeah im gonna start letting them go dry before watering from now on im using bio bizz light mix soil no food as of yet as the soil contains food for the first 3 weeks same for the ph it keeps my runoff at around 6.4 i havent checked the ph of my water i put in, i will check tonight and update.they literally have been getting just plain water up until now i was due to start feeding this week, i will be using canna terra vega and canna flores for flower and ah i didnt know that about the leaf miners, what would everyone reccomend to get rid? And thanks all for the information its much appretiated, happy toking. (:
Not sure you have leaf miners.
 

theslipperbandit

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Didn't know u were still in veg.
Ive only ever encountered Calmag issues after flip (in soil) but as everyone Said always include ur setup in full so everyone can give you a proper opinion based on all variables but it looks like a few issues so info on temps,nutes,ph(not runoff) where in the plant said issues started and full plant in regular lighting is great with a few clear close up pics of damaged foliage on both front and rear of leaf.
 

theslipperbandit

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Ive used lightmix before by biobizz and it's literally only good for seedlings n clones but saying that ive successfully grown in it for a full crop or two and ive always fed at week two or so via foliar to begin (love foliar feeding in veg) and pls dont test runoff lol ur soils ph changes as it dries so it dont do shite imo u should focus on what you put in stick with 6.5 n raise her a bit in later flowering but best stick with phing at 6.5-6.6 till u get Reading ur leafs down then ur laughing bro when you can read a plant by looking at it.heck I dont wven count flowering time unless im running beans for someone then I go anal but I harvest me clones when they look done which youll know within a few grows.
Consider this a lesson mate,onwards n upwards
 
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Cwrighty9420

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Ive used lightmix before by biobizz and it's literally only good for seedlings n clones but saying that ive successfully grown in it for a full crop or two and ive always fed at week two or so via foliar to begin (love foliar feeding in veg) and pls dont test runoff lol ur soils ph changes as it dries so it dont do shite imo u should focus on what you put in stick with 6.5 n raise her a bit in later flowering but best stick with phing at 6.5-6.6 till u get Reading ur leafs down then ur laughing bro when you can read a plant by looking at it.heck I dont wven count flowering time unless im running beans for someone then I go anal but I harvest me clones when they look done which youll know within a few grows.
Consider this a lesson mate,onwards n upwards
Ive used bio bizz for 6 grows and have never had this issue before so i doubt it is the soil, as i said i have a scrog which is the same batch of clones only they was potted a week sooner than these, ive never had ph problems in soil but i will check still none the less and the problem only arose around a week ago and the room is 600watts of hps per 3 plants, bio bizz light mix in 25 litre pots under 24hours of light they have recived just plain water up until now if more indo is needed please ask, thanks for all the help guys
 

Cwrighty9420

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Didn't know u were still in veg.
Ive only ever encountered Calmag issues after flip (in soil) but as everyone Said always include ur setup in full so everyone can give you a proper opinion based on all variables but it looks like a few issues so info on temps,nutes,ph(not runoff) where in the plant said issues started and full plant in regular lighting is great with a few clear close up pics of damaged foliage on both front and rear of leaf.
Temps sit at around 25 tops at 28 celcius
 

Buba Blend

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Not sure you have leaf miners.
What do you think is wrong bro?
That is why we need better pictures. I'm not 100% sure either but I'm favoring that you do have them, we will know after the new pics. Get pictures of the individual leaves for the bug pics and some good whole plant pictures for the yellowing, a separate problem. I could be wrong but I haven't been wrong on a bug call for a long time.
 

elfo777

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Unfortunately, I have quite a lot of experience with this plague: thrips. I almost developed better eyesight looking for them, lol. They will puncture your leaves and leave small trails of bug poop everywhere. When they reach adulthood, they will be able to fly and infect more plants in your grow room. I battled them for one year without being able to kill all of them. They kept coming back. And that's because they will go down in the soil to pupate, then go back up. I used everything available with no results, but (im not marketing them... trust me. Im just a regular grower.) the only thing that worked for me was misting my plants over/under the leaves with Greendel pyrethrum, then watering the soil with pyrethrum aswell to get all the bugs killed. Then I used some diatomaceous earth near the stem to prevent them from going up. This is the only thing that worked for me. My plants look green and healthy again.

 

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Budley Doright

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Unfortunately, I have quite a lot of experience with this plague: thrips. I almost developed better eyesight looking for them, lol. They will puncture your leaves and leave small trails of bug poop everywhere. When they reach adulthood, they will be able to fly and infect more plants in your grow room. I battled them for one year without being able to kill all of them. They kept coming back. And that's because they will go down in the soil to pupate, then go back up. I used everything available with no results, but (im not marketing them... trust me. Im just a regular grower.) the only thing that worked for me was misting my plants over/under the leaves with Greendel pyrethrum, then watering the soil with pyrethrum aswell to get all the bugs killed. Then I used some diatomaceous earth near the stem to prevent them from going up. This is the only thing that worked for me. My plants look green and healthy again.

Good eye's elfo :).
 

Cwrighty9420

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Unfortunately, I have quite a lot of experience with this plague: thrips. I almost developed better eyesight looking for them, lol. They will puncture your leaves and leave small trails of bug poop everywhere. When they reach adulthood, they will be able to fly and infect more plants in your grow room. I battled them for one year without being able to kill all of them. They kept coming back. And that's because they will go down in the soil to pupate, then go back up. I used everything available with no results, but (im not marketing them... trust me. Im just a regular grower.) the only thing that worked for me was misting my plants over/under the leaves with Greendel pyrethrum, then watering the soil with pyrethrum aswell to get all the bugs killed. Then I used some diatomaceous earth near the stem to prevent them from going up. This is the only thing that worked for me. My plants look green and healthy again.

Thanks alot elfo eyes like a sniper. Lol
 

Dr. Who

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Ill get better pics up tonight or tomorrow and ive never used epsom salts but ill give it a try 100% and yeah im gonna start letting them go dry before watering from now on im using bio bizz light mix soil no food as of yet as the soil contains food for the first 3 weeks same for the ph it keeps my runoff at around 6.4 i havent checked the ph of my water i put in, i will check tonight and update.they literally have been getting just plain water up until now i was due to start feeding this week, i will be using canna terra vega and canna flores for flower and ah i didnt know that about the leaf miners, what would everyone reccomend to get rid? And thanks all for the information its much appretiated, happy toking. (:
Add a Ca/Mg at 5 ml per gallon of water. That Biobizz looks to be N hot.....Your leaves tell me so. Bet you can go longer on not feeding. Look at new growth for that. That soil is looking low on Ca

You did not give me the pH of the in-going water! I don't give a shit about what comes out! That is the pH of the run off. NOT the pH of the soil! I need the pH of your in-going to tell me what I need to know....

pHing the run off is not a quality way to judge anything.

Cpt. Jacks for the minors/thrips.
 

Cwrighty9420

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Add a Ca/Mg at 5 ml per gallon of water. That Biobizz looks to be N hot.....Your leaves tell me so. Bet you can go longer on not feeding. Look at new growth for that. That soil is looking low on Ca

You did not give me the pH of the in-going water! I don't give a shit about what comes out! That is the pH of the run off. NOT the pH of the soil! I need the pH of your in-going to tell me what I need to know....

pHing the run off is not a quality way to judge anything.

Cpt. Jacks for the minors/thrips.
Ill get you that ph tonight bro thanks
 

Cwrighty9420

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Add a Ca/Mg at 5 ml per gallon of water. That Biobizz looks to be N hot.....Your leaves tell me so. Bet you can go longer on not feeding. Look at new growth for that. That soil is looking low on Ca

You did not give me the pH of the in-going water! I don't give a shit about what comes out! That is the pH of the run off. NOT the pH of the soil! I need the pH of your in-going to tell me what I need to know....

pHing the run off is not a quality way to judge anything.

Cpt. Jacks for the minors/thrips.
Unfortunately, I have quite a lot of experience with this plague: thrips. I almost developed better eyesight looking for them, lol. They will puncture your leaves and leave small trails of bug poop everywhere. When they reach adulthood, they will be able to fly and infect more plants in your grow room. I battled them for one year without being able to kill all of them. They kept coming back. And that's because they will go down in the soil to pupate, then go back up. I used everything available with no results, but (im not marketing them... trust me. Im just a regular grower.) the only thing that worked for me was misting my plants over/under the leaves with Greendel pyrethrum, then watering the soil with pyrethrum aswell to get all the bugs killed. Then I used some diatomaceous earth near the stem to prevent them from going up. This is the only thing that worked for me. My plants look green and healthy again.

Yo bro i checked the ph it stands at 7.5 and i checked the leafs and found a little worm think its an aphid larvae? I cant see why the plants are yellowing like this i have mothers which have been treated the exact same, same soil same water everything just less light on them, any ideas now ive put the better pics up, thanks. The pics under the hps are my moms and they look healthy and green, confused :/
 

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Dr. Who

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PH all in-going to 6.5
The new growth showing the light edge's = locking out Zinc from high pH.
The pH issue will get worse and include other things down the road if you don't start corrections now.

Stick a cpl of galvanized nails in the soil and pH all in-going to 6.5
Use a Ca/Mg with Fe in it. 5 ml per gallon.

The soil is light on Ca and not buffering well.

Again. Cpt. Jacks dead bug for the thrips.
 

Cwrighty9420

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PH all in-going to 6.5
The new growth showing the light edge's = locking out Zinc from high pH.
The pH issue will get worse and include other things down the road if you don't start corrections now.

Stick a cpl of galvanized nails in the soil and pH all in-going to 6.5
Use a Ca/Mg with Fe in it. 5 ml per gallon.

The soil is light on Ca and not buffering well.

Again. Cpt. Jacks dead bug for the thrips.
Any ideas why these are suffering but the moms arent as i said they all get the same treatment
 

Cwrighty9420

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Might seem the same but be different in ways your not seeing....Besides, the mothers are older and established......They have a tolerance/familiarity built to the environment/feeding regimen.
Ok so i just went to the shop got some ph down some thrip spray and some cal mag what do you suggest i do first?
 

Dr. Who

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Cpt Jacks first.
Put the galvanized nails in the soil. (Just push them in)
Water with the pH'ed water and the Ca/Mg when it time to water next...(pH after you add the Ca/Mg).
 
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