cephalopod
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Bump on this one boys and girls. If HIPPA worked, why do the leo see anything. Is this a practice for people prescribed opiates too, or what info is, what medical history/condition requires full disclosure like that???
latest Michigan medical marijuana news.....
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buckaroo bonzai
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According to the new dwui law (hb660) anyone caught driving under the influence of mj is now entered into the lien system
(Im guessing ANYONE caught period now w mj will be entered-its a way for them to circumvent HIPPA)
we are the first state to pass an mj driving law
it also means that if if you are driving anywhere in the country the data from lien can be seen by any LEO
imagine driving across illinois state line where they have license plate readers...
remember too they passed a new law also that makes it against the law to 'lie' to a LEO so its a catch 22-
if they ask you "if you have a card" you cannot lie or it could be an additional charge
that means most cops will probably look at you if your stopped and first thing they will ask is "do you have an mj card?"
next will be to give you the new marijuana breathalyzer test to detemine if there is ANY amount in your system
-there is a 'zero tolerance' policy-
you should be able to read between the lines here-
a couple friends i have retired LEO i smoke w tell me that is the new 'trick' they are using per their peers still active duty
just another way to flush us all out and make us transparent and open to robbery and forfeiture from the roving thugs in blue
so if they ask you now and you say 'no' and then they find out different well...
--like ive said before we really dont have a law--its the same as before there was a law...depending on what co you live
best policy is to act like there is no law and go from there
dont look like you even think about smoking mj
and remember we have a new repub legislature so its only going to get worse imo
they are 'herding' us into the tax and regulate and control box
think about it for a minute...just like the bar
you are allowed to drink but if you get into a car....pffffffft!
ur fkd
so imo that means if the local sheriff wants to all they have to do is sit by the still open dispensaries and pull over anyone coming out...like a bar scenario
except there is like zero tolerance for mj
just be real real careful getting into your car and driving now w medicine...dont have ozzy stickers or grateful dead stickers on ur bumper
and for gosh sakes dont look like you might smoke
Make yourself look republican...have republican stickers on ur bumper-
its almost time to go back underground imo
Unless ur a 20somthing and a blind sheep being herded into the bS
cephalopod
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http://www.record-eagle.com/news/local_news/judge-questions-township-ban-on-collectives/article_8343c6cb-e3c7-55bf-9f56-85f8fb0d6f0a.html
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Judge questions township ban on collectives
Judge Thomas Power - 13th Circuit Judge Thomas Power, a Traverse City native and former state legislator. (Douglas Tesner/Record-Eagle)
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TRAVERSE CITY — A Garfield Township medical marijuana collective can continue to operate after a judge refused township officials' request to snuff out the business.
Thirteenth Circuit Court Judge Thomas Power on Tuesday denied township officials' motion for a preliminary injunction to close South Airport Medical Cannabis. Business owner Art Murray can continue to operate his collective while the case goes to trial. If Power ultimately rules against the township, it could invalidate ordinances in several area townships that ban collectives.
Garfield Township officials remained confident, despite the setback.
"We might lose this preliminary injunction but in the long run we will win," said Chuck Korn, township supervisor.
Power put township attorneys on the defensive almost immediately. He tossed aside two state Supreme Court decisions cited by attorneys as not applicable to the case, and said it came down to a question of exclusionary zoning. Can the township justify excluding from the community medical marijuana collectives that operate legally.
"Aren't there some sex shops allowed in the township?" Power asked. "So a marijuana collective cannot possibly be in the township, but a sex shop can?"
Township attorney Scott Howard argued the Michigan Medical Marijuana Act was constructed similar to the home health care industry and the township allows transactions between caregivers and patients to occur anywhere, including restaurants, gas station parking lots, and homes.
Howard said the township zoning does not exclude legal transactions, just the establishment of a commercial business to facilitate them.
"It seems to me as long as the transfers inside the business are compliant with the Michigan Medical Marijuana Act, then the business is subject to zoning like any other business," Power said. "A business that is in compliance with the law is an OK thing."
Howard later acknowledged there isn't any existing case law that addresses the exact issue before the court. He said the ruling leaves the door open on what municipalities can do to regulate marijuana establishments.
He asked Power to grant the injunction to stop marijuana businesses from opening while the lawsuit proceeds.
Attorney Philip Settles, representing Murray, said it would not make sense for others to open collectives before the case is decided.
"Why would anybody go and invest the money to open one of these up?" Settles told Power. "They are going to wait for you to decide."
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Judge Thomas Power - 13th Circuit Judge Thomas Power, a Traverse City native and former state legislator. (Douglas Tesner/Record-Eagle)
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TRAVERSE CITY — A Garfield Township medical marijuana collective can continue to operate after a judge refused township officials' request to snuff out the business.
Thirteenth Circuit Court Judge Thomas Power on Tuesday denied township officials' motion for a preliminary injunction to close South Airport Medical Cannabis. Business owner Art Murray can continue to operate his collective while the case goes to trial. If Power ultimately rules against the township, it could invalidate ordinances in several area townships that ban collectives.
Garfield Township officials remained confident, despite the setback.
"We might lose this preliminary injunction but in the long run we will win," said Chuck Korn, township supervisor.
Power put township attorneys on the defensive almost immediately. He tossed aside two state Supreme Court decisions cited by attorneys as not applicable to the case, and said it came down to a question of exclusionary zoning. Can the township justify excluding from the community medical marijuana collectives that operate legally.
"Aren't there some sex shops allowed in the township?" Power asked. "So a marijuana collective cannot possibly be in the township, but a sex shop can?"
Township attorney Scott Howard argued the Michigan Medical Marijuana Act was constructed similar to the home health care industry and the township allows transactions between caregivers and patients to occur anywhere, including restaurants, gas station parking lots, and homes.
Howard said the township zoning does not exclude legal transactions, just the establishment of a commercial business to facilitate them.
"It seems to me as long as the transfers inside the business are compliant with the Michigan Medical Marijuana Act, then the business is subject to zoning like any other business," Power said. "A business that is in compliance with the law is an OK thing."
Howard later acknowledged there isn't any existing case law that addresses the exact issue before the court. He said the ruling leaves the door open on what municipalities can do to regulate marijuana establishments.
He asked Power to grant the injunction to stop marijuana businesses from opening while the lawsuit proceeds.
Attorney Philip Settles, representing Murray, said it would not make sense for others to open collectives before the case is decided.
"Why would anybody go and invest the money to open one of these up?" Settles told Power. "They are going to wait for you to decide."
kountdown
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http://www.mlive.com/lansing-news/index.ssf/2015/09/medical_marijuana_dispensary_r.html#incart_2box_
The MI house committee just approved a 3 medical marijuana bill package and they're all pretty much terrible. The package includes a dispensary bill that would implement a 5 tier licensing system that includes "secure transporters" and a seed-to-sale tracking system. Not really surprised they got it wrong but I didn't think it would be this shitty.
The MI house committee just approved a 3 medical marijuana bill package and they're all pretty much terrible. The package includes a dispensary bill that would implement a 5 tier licensing system that includes "secure transporters" and a seed-to-sale tracking system. Not really surprised they got it wrong but I didn't think it would be this shitty.
CashCrops
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HGK420
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I'm with you now rrog... I've comepletely changed my whole system to now grow one organic plant per 16 foot squared, so 2 plants per hood on a light mover..
I'm lowering my electrical footprint back to normal numbers, now just me and my fiancé are good for 24 instead of maxed caregiver(me) my own patient card and her patient card...
I've comepletely removed ANYTHING mj related from the house and keep it behind 3 locked doors. My children would need breaching charges to get anywhere near it(dont count them out lol)
The game is definitely changing... I knew many people who played this way since day one and even some that never poked there head above ground... And I'm not sorry I got sloppy for a while, it was fun as hell while it lasted, but now it's time to act like a home brewery. Keep records, osha standards, Personal protective equipment, and most of all keep it all very much locked and segregated FROM ANYONE who doesn't need to be there...
Hell like was said earlier in this thread "lose the ozzy and greatful dead stickers".. I got a haircut and lost the beard and have retired all my various cotton t-shirts related to Mj I've amassed over the last couple years. It really is time to present yourself like a church goer as much as possible..
/HashtagRIPmichiganmedicalmarijuana
Rrog
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Vast majority of police and town boards don't want the Canna. Old dogs don't unlearn any easier than they learn.
I'm just wondering since I don't have a patient (other than myself), those like me aren't going to be scrutinized / inspected / taxed. Not sure how folks like me will have to be compliant
I'm just wondering since I don't have a patient (other than myself), those like me aren't going to be scrutinized / inspected / taxed. Not sure how folks like me will have to be compliant
HGK420
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Probably just gotta be very good at proving where your money comes from is the only hitch I can find with cutting back to serve just my own household. I've got a job so in my case it's not a problem but if this is your lively hood then I'd recommend taking some lessons from the unions and find a labor only job
Beyond any surplus of money or product they won't care what someone is doing who's just growing for themselves I don't reckon, i hope not anyway that's way beyond gestapo status and so far they've been pretty decent about who gets whacked(at least when vibrators aren't involved rofl)
kountdown
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The act as it stands can be changed by lawmakers or another ballot proposal but only after voter approval in a general election. The big hits the act has taken since its approval have been in its interpretation by courts. The new bills being proposed are areas outside of what the original act has covered. However, that is also open to interpretation.
NurseNancy420
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Keep "hopin" boys.. I'm sure this time Lucy is gonna hold that football nice n still
TheMan13
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Mich. cops seized $24M in 2014 in drug cases
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2015/10/10/asset-forfeitures-michigan-police-drugs/73740104/
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2015/10/10/asset-forfeitures-michigan-police-drugs/73740104/
cephalopod
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Stay safe from the other thieves as well....
http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.ssf/2015/10/vienna_township_man_shot_in_ne.html
Vienna Township man shot in neck during apparent home invasion
A medical marijuana caregiver was shot in the neck during an apparent home invasion in Vienna Township early Tuesday morning, Oct. 13, according to Genesee County Sheriff Robert Pickell.
It happened in the 11000 block of North Saginaw Road, near Wilson Road. The preliminary investigation showed that two people in masks broke down a door to get into the house. Hearing the commotion, the homeowner went to see what was happening, Pickell said.
When the man saw two people with masks and weapons, he locked himself behind a closed door, Pickell said.
One of the suspects then fired a shot through the door, hitting the man in the neck, Pickell said.
As of about 9 a.m. Tuesday, the man was in surgery at Hurley Medical Center, according to Pickell.
No further information, including the man's condition, was released.
http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.ssf/2015/10/vienna_township_man_shot_in_ne.html
Vienna Township man shot in neck during apparent home invasion
A medical marijuana caregiver was shot in the neck during an apparent home invasion in Vienna Township early Tuesday morning, Oct. 13, according to Genesee County Sheriff Robert Pickell.
It happened in the 11000 block of North Saginaw Road, near Wilson Road. The preliminary investigation showed that two people in masks broke down a door to get into the house. Hearing the commotion, the homeowner went to see what was happening, Pickell said.
When the man saw two people with masks and weapons, he locked himself behind a closed door, Pickell said.
One of the suspects then fired a shot through the door, hitting the man in the neck, Pickell said.
As of about 9 a.m. Tuesday, the man was in surgery at Hurley Medical Center, according to Pickell.
No further information, including the man's condition, was released.
a senile fungus
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Had he shot them dead wouldn't he likely be facing charges for manufacturing and firearm possession?
CashCrops
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Hope no one ever enters my home like that, it will read that!
CashCrops
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I'm surprised it hasn't happened and made big headlines yet
TheMan13
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Yes, that is possible within our broken and prejudice "justice system" and sadly why medicinal caregivers, their homes and families have commonly become victims of such violent crimes nationwide (not to mention the government raids, seizures and forfeitures - aka "legal" armed robbery) as they have pioneered the change we finally see today. Our corporate/government successors will neither face nor accept any such risk as they pass their third party protection costs (offensive lawyers and armed security) onto patients ...
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