Last Week or Two Flowering, Flush??

Well like I said I dont flush in the sense that I pour vast amounts of water on my plants and never have. All my outdoor grows, years ago, were basically left to nature to keep them healthy with a bit of manure and yep miracle grow, sun leaves turned yellow and dropped, buds swelled and triches production was amazing. My indoor plants basically retain most leaves until harvest, buds still swell, i gotta say the outdoor stuff seemed to have better triche production, could be strain related though. But I'm not gonna get all bent out of shape if someone flushes, so be it. Best answer I can think of, if asked, is some do, some dont, you be the judge lol. Also I think different growers use the term flushing in different ways. Stopping the use of nutes but just using plain water is not IMO flushing, pouring vast amounts of water in a soil grow is, When I stop adding nutrients to the rez EC will actually go up over a short period from the base number. Also I have noticed that the plant almost seems to go dormant if nutes are stopped near the end of its cycle, taking longer to finish.

hellmutt bones said:

Riu is the only site that ppl arguing about flushing.. every othe site most ppl would agree to flush. Lol

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Then why don't you stay over there and keep to the flock?

The sheep hang there because the wolf's have no teeth......or brains!

Open your mind and set yourself free from myth and mystery!

Question........

How do outdoor growers who grow in the ground flush?????

Answer.......

They don't!!!!!!

I fertilize my veggy garden and eat right off of the plant with no fertilizer taste. If what was used as fertilizer gave the plant flavor my veggies would taste like cow and chicken shit!!

My indoor grow doesn't get enough water to drain out of the bottom of the tubs ever!!! If I pour enough to runoff my plants suffer a droopy fate and root issues become real. My 18 gallon tubs get 1 gallon of water every 6-8 days. my 1/2 gallon pots get 1/2 cup of water every 3 days or so, my 1.5 gallon pots get 1.5 cups of water every 4-5 days and my 3.8 gallon pots get 6 cups every 3-4 days.

Now I can tell you this... I have screwed up drying and curing and that is when the flavor issues came out. If I hang dry longer than 5 days the smoke will not be tasty and will wind up over dry in the end. I found that jarring it at the right time then religiously burping or dumping it out for a breather works best for flavor.

DrFever said:

theres obviously a myth to this and people took right off with it lol
IMO why take away nutrients in its most crucial time thats getting big and fat buds i always wondered why people did this even i did my very first grow people got to understand that when you feed your plants its just not drinking up the nutrients you vegged for weeks and flowered for weeks you actually think your going to rid plant of what Exactly i would really like to know what ????? of bad tasteing buds hahahahaha its the proper drying and curing of a plant that determines Taste and potency

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I can tell you if im smoking un flushed bud...the black ash is normally the first sign...then a irritating itch inside my lungs...theres lots of proof

brodietheconeking said:

I can tell you if im smoking un flushed bud...the black ash is normally the first sign...then a irritating itch inside my lungs...theres lots of proof

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I have flushed for 2 years and not flush for 20 months, yet my weed burns the same... When you're ash is turning black, it is a sign of too much moisture either inside or outside the fruit. Proper dry and cure will prevent that even on a plant that has been fed miracle grow ect.. When you smoke pre-mature weed you get dry throat, harsh smoke,a weird speedy head buzz, black ash and hard to keep lit flowers. Nothing else will cause that combination.

brodietheconeking said:

I can tell you if im smoking un flushed bud...the black ash is normally the first sign...then a irritating itch inside my lungs...theres lots of proof

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That's not proof!! That is opinion.

ButchyBoy said:

That's not proof!! That is opinion.

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Lol. Its like cutting down a wet tree, then throwing it directly in the fire. Its gonna burn black before it dries and turns gray. Water doesnt catch on fire. But maybe the tree should have been flushed?

hellmutt bones said:

Riu is the only site that ppl arguing about flushing.. every othe site most ppl would agree to flush. Lol

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Agree to flush to achieve what ?

Just flush its not gonna deprive ur bud of nutrients.. if u knew how to grow ur plant should of achived its maximum potential.

hellmutt bones said:

Just flush its not gonna deprive ur bud of nutrients.. if u knew how to grow ur plant should of achived its maximum potential.

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How does it NOT deprive your plant of nutrition?

Because your buds have already matured ffs....they aint gonna gonna get much fatter...

its pretty obvious for me when I start flushing and my leafs start to die and theresno green left in the plant its finished its life cycle and is ripe for the picking.

I shoot for a green plant till finish! I want my flowers to continue to grow right up to the time that I chop the plant down. All I have to do is pour clear fresh water into my pots and the soil does the rest. There is absolutely no reason to over water the plant in the name of flushing.

Flushing must have been started by growers who constantly over feed the plants then try to fix the issue by over watering with clear water. Its a vicious cycle........

If you are getting great results from following the directions for your nutrient choice weither organic or non organic..why not follow the last step that the nutruent provider says if it says to flush then flush it..if your having doubts and want to experiment for yourself flush half of your plants and continue the regular feeding schedule one your other half..no better way to determine then testing yourself

Lostnz said:

ITS LIKE GREEN BANANAS TASTE LIKE SHIT AND UNEATABLE....YELLOW BANANA PERFECT BECAUSE IT IS *RIPE.*SAME PRINCIPLE WITH MARIJUANA BUDS. YOU WANT NICE RIPE PLANT. NOT A FUCKING GREEN PLANT. NOOBS. THINK OUT OF THE BOX

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Says the guy on his first grow.Cannabis Drying and Curing | MedCann: A Medical Cannabis. Make THC Active During The Marijuana Drying Process | The 11 Steps to Perfect the Humboldt Hang Dry | The Ganjier. I put a few link for you to educate yourself. Calling names and slinging insults about a subject you clearly have no knowledge of helps no one and makes you look like a bit of an asshole.

If you have to flush it out you've put too much in. It really is as simple as that

Roobarb said:

If you have to flush it out you've put too much in. It really is as simple as that

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Flushing is the bulimia of cannabis cultivation. People have 20 bottles of shit they feed with just to flush it back out anyway.

You can get away with flushing for 7 day's,7 day's is fine to flush them.More so in hydro,in soil if the plants are at a height that they can be managed to take to say a shower room,then to just flush them with the shower till the run of is clear,then let dry out,then just re feed with water once dry.I have done this several times when i used to grow smaller plants.

The flushing for 2 weeks is a shame,i know sometimes you have to but the final two week are when the plants will be bumping that weight on,in my opinion the final 3 week are the most important for yeild wise,That is if everthing else has been done right through the grow close nodes ext right feed at right time ext

I flush for 7 day's but i root feed through auto pot's,i just turn of the main tank at start week 7 or let the main tank run empty,then just add water,the roots are just up taking water then,But if your feeding the medium then i would flush for a while longer,because the medium will take a while to totally clear of nutrients,and the plants just to be feeding on just water,you can test the run of to make sure that the plants are just up taking water,with a ec pen

ҖҗlegilizeitҗҖ said:

the reason some people flush is because they want there plant to be clean and have no extra added to the bud. i wouldnt flush if i were using organic nutes but with my mg nutes it has all them chemicals in it so i plan on flushing

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I’m no expert in growing, but I have noticed that the hydro nutrients kick my bipolar off the handles. I get really paranoid and pretty much have a panic attack. In an experiment where a plant was grown with fish scales, manure, egg shells, etc. That bud made me happy, laughed my ass off. There’s a study in London about “skunk” creating more mental health patients than crack cocaine. Now therapists recon it’s to do with the high levels of thc, (and there’s a correlation between lower cbd as thc increases) so maybe there’s a point. But what were people growing weed with decades ago? It wasn’t canna, biobuzz, or anything like that. Sure the thc has gone up and buds look so pretty you end up in a love hate relationship with harvesting but, at what cost?
Chances are I’m wrong about all of this, like I said bud now a days screws my head up. Just thought I’d share my perspective.

Decades ago I used miracle grow . And yes I find some strains cause anxiety to the point I don't smoke them.
Edit: some of the strains I don't enjoy are older genetics, not saying you wrong at all re your symptoms but it's probably not as cut and dried as "the nutes are causing it" a whole litany of things could be causing adverse effects.

Interesting, thank you for the reply. I’ve been reading up on the importance of curing. I didn’t realise the process actually changes the molecular structure of many cannibanoids( not sure I spelled that right) So how can I make sure I get older genetics? I don’t believe the white rhino seeds on the market these days are the real deal, Acapulco gold hasn’t been heard of in London for years. Any advice?
I have been following some of your threads as I am getting into growing, quite helpful. Thank you