LADIES DYING?!?! NEED HELP PLZ

Kage87 · Mar 25, 2018

Newbie here first time...having some problems and the ladies are looking unhappy to be alive and living with me despite all the love and care they get...

Setup

18/6 light cycle
32in x 32in x 63in grow tent
Promix hp growing medium
190 cfm ventech exhaust and carbon filter
900w viparspectra led (bloom/veg on) 32" height above canopy
Complete remo nutrient line (water/feed/water/feed cycle)
Have been sprayed with rhizotonic for last week
2x 6inch fans running on low pointed at both plants
Using gh ph strips and getting close to 6.0 that I can..buying oakton ph2+ next week
Temp in tent hovers 75-79 with lights on 68-70 lights off
Plants:
Left..jack herer from seeding (small pot)
Right..og kush from clone (3 gallon smart pot)

Problems:
Yellow leaves at bottom of plant
General droopyness
Jack herer has papery leaves
Og leaves have a slight taco to them
Red stems on old growths none on new growths both plants

Any pointers and course of action I can take...like I said first timer and really disappointed need to get these girls in shape fast..pics attached

Kage87 · Mar 25, 2018

They wake up in about 2.5 hours so hoping to get some good advise and put it to good use as soon as the bitches wake up

genuity · Mar 25, 2018

Small one needs a transplant,and the big one looks like it needs a full watering

How much you water that bigger pot?

Kage87 · Mar 25, 2018

In the beginning I did till runoff...now not so much because of the time it took to dry..the big pot was dry this morning and I tossed in a healthy amount of nutes water...I've been trying just to water by weight of the bucket...little one I was planning kn transplanting today but after seeing the problems I'm hesitant as I don't want to stress it while it's having problems

Ghost of Davy Jones · Mar 25, 2018

I agree with everything @genuity said. I wanna add that I dont think you need be feeding them at this point. The soil their in should be plenty for this stage of growth,unless it's used depleted soil. New people always make the mistake of over feeding and spraying.

Kage87 · Mar 25, 2018

Ghost of Davy Jones said:
I agree with everything @genuity said. I wanna add that I dont think you need be feeding them at this point. The soil their in should be plenty for this stage of growth,unless it's used depleted soil. New people always make the mistake of over feeding and spraying.

Not soil..promix hp growing medium

Ghost of Davy Jones · Mar 25, 2018

Kage87 said:
Not soil..promix hp growing medium

same thing imo. promix is good stuff and i think you should not have fed them anything. I have girls right now in promix and they are in the 7 week of veg and they are lush, green, growing strong, and loving life. I have only given them tap water and they are doing awesome. I couldn't imagine them looking any better, so why would i feed them when they are't asking for food yet? I so think you may have over fed/sprayed them sir. maybe others can chime in and give their inputs too

genuity · Mar 25, 2018

Kage87 said:
In the beginning I did till runoff...now not so much because of the time it took to dry..the big pot was dry this morning and I tossed in a healthy amount of nutes water...I've been trying just to water by weight of the bucket...little one I was planning kn transplanting today but after seeing the problems I'm hesitant as I don't want to stress it while it's having problems

That's it,the pots will take longer to dry,until they fill up with roots.. sounds like it's some dry spots in that big pot.

Definitely uproot that lil one for sure.

Kage87 · Mar 25, 2018

genuity said:
That's it,the pots will take longer to dry,until they fill up with roots.. sounds like it's some dry spots in that big pot.

Definitely uproot that lil one for sure.

Well if it was dry spots I should see some rebound when they wake up if that's the case correct? And I'm all for transplanting jack like I said wanted to do it this morning before they went to bed...if you think she'll be ok with transplant while looking like a bag of shit I'll go for it bro haha..any suggestions for the trans?

Tangerine_ · Mar 25, 2018

Agree with everything that's been stated. ProMix has a slight charge of nutes that should last at least 10 days. And I believe rhizotonic is a root stimulator - not really effective as a foliar.

Up pot the small one and give them some good clean fresh water and let em be. They should recover.

Kage87 · Mar 25, 2018

Ghost of Davy Jones said:
same thing imo. promix is good stuff and i think you should not have fed them anything. I have girls right now in promix and they are in the 7 week of veg and they are lush, green, growing strong, and loving life. I have only given them tap water and they are doing awesome. I couldn't imagine them looking any better, so why would i feed them when they are't asking for food yet? I so think you may have over fed/sprayed them sir. maybe others can chime in and give their inputs too

I was under the understanding that a growing medium has no nutrients in it. ..

Kage87 · Mar 25, 2018

Tangerine_ said:
Agree with everything that's been stated. ProMix has a slight charge of nutes that should last at least 10 days. And I believe rhizotonic is a root stimulator - not really effective as a foliar.

Up pot the small one and give them some good clean fresh water and let em be. They should recover.

They've been in my possession for 2 weeks now ..but both are little older then that exact age not known but both should be around 2-3 weeks old I'm assuming

Ghost of Davy Jones · Mar 25, 2018

Kage87 said:
I was under the understanding that a growing medium has no nutrients in it. ..

I thought that too but a friend told me differently. I decided to try and he was right. But don't take my word for it. try it your self on your next run. I really don't think the plant fairy came in the middle of the night and pissed on your plants.... Im sticking to my opinion on the over feeding. your light and height are fine. temps and humidity are in check. sounds like you have air exhaust so....plant fairy or soil. after all, you did say u put some shit in the soil.

Ghost of Davy Jones · Mar 25, 2018

I would flush and chill on food for a while.

nc208 · Mar 25, 2018

You may also want to look at raising your humidity as well. I think I can read on your monitor in the pic it saying current rh is 26% and has a low of 12% and high of 47%. Also it shows on that monitor your temps low is 62 and high is 94, If these numbers are accurate I would try and get your environment locked in as well.

Kage87 · Mar 25, 2018

nc208 said:
You may also want to look at raising your humidity as well. I think I can read on your monitor in the pic it saying current rh is 26% and has a low of 12% and high of 47%. Also it shows on that monitor your temps low is 62 and high is 94, If these numbers are accurate I would try and get your environment locked in as well.

Wouldn't go by the lows and highs as that temp gauge been around for awhile never reset it...but humidity is around that area..like I said temps stay 76-79 lights on and 67-69 lights off...humidity stays the same ..when I water it goes to 35 or 49 percent briefly before coming back down...I can put a humidifier by an intake but I'd rather not as its just more hydro for two little plants...think it's absolutly necessary?

Kage87 · Mar 25, 2018

Ghost of Davy Jones said:
I would flush and chill on food for a while.

OK like I said just watered the big one with nutes this morn before it went on 6 hour dark..I'll give it a cpl days to dry then feed her some fresh water...probably when my ph meter comes in hopefully

Kage87 · Mar 25, 2018

Ghost of Davy Jones said:
I thought that too but a friend told me differently. I decided to try and he was right. But don't take my word for it. try it your self on your next run. I really don't think the plant fairy came in the middle of the night and pissed on your plants.... Im sticking to my opinion on the over feeding. your light and height are fine. temps and humidity are in check. sounds like you have air exhaust so....plant fairy or soil. after all, you did say u put some shit in the soil.

Lol I hear yah man...way things go for me usually I wouldn't be surprised if it is a mystical being shitting on my first endeavour lol...just want these babies to have the best

nc208 · Mar 25, 2018

Kage87 said:
Wouldn't go by the lows and highs as that temp gauge been around for awhile never reset it...but humidity is around that area..like I said temps stay 76-79 lights on and 67-69 lights off...humidity stays the same ..when I water it goes to 35 or 49 percent briefly before coming back down...I can put a humidifier by an intake but I'd rather not as its just more hydro for two little plants...think it's absolutly necessary?

No, it isn't necessary. As long as your aren't seeing massive swings then your temps are fine. 26% RH is low IMO for veg, I prefer to keep it around 50-60% for veg and drop it to 35-45% during flower.

Kage87 · Mar 25, 2018

Just headed home boys I'll update with some photos in natural light ...hopefully they did a 180° in the last 6 hours while they slept..lol a man can dream...and I'm going to get started on the transplant as well

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