Kratom Review

Discussion in 'Hallucinatory Substances' started by Swag, Oct 30, 2010.

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    Swag

    Swag Well-Known Member

    So, I recently purchased 56 grams of Whole Grind Bali Kratom online. An it arrived today and the people I ordered it from more than doubled the amount I bought, giving me 120 grams as a gift for being a first time customer with them I guess. I quickly weighed out 6 grams as that is supposed to be a good starting dose. I used the toss and wash method. Getting a teaspoon of the powder, eating it and then chasing it with some orange juice. The only reason I used the orange juice was because the powder sticks to the inside of your mouth like sand an I heard people mentioning vitamin C potentiates it (most likely bullshit as apparently every drug is "potentiated" by orange juice). Non the less I could have easily downed it with plan water and not even have to try to choke it down. Though I've also been chewing up poppy pods as a whole, I guess I've gotten sort of accustomed to the bitter taste opiate agnostic's seem to have. Anyways I ingested the powder about an hour ago or so and I feel stimulating effects right now, I'll probably have to eat more if I want any sedating effects as I've been drinking very weak poppy tea and eating whole poppies every other day now. For the past 3 weeks. I plan on eating another 3 grams and i'll report back on the effects. If I feel no effects after that, I will just give up and go on a tolerance break for a few days. No sense wasting all that powder for 2 doses when I could just wait a week and have 10 or so.
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    ANC

    ANC Well-Known Member

    Just a note, the kratom and poppies will counter each other, with the kratom winning in the end and the poppies loosing their reward function (its a good thing).
    You'll be ok to take kratom a few times more often in the beginning without dependance or tollerance issues. I'd up the dose slowly as the line between sedation and motion sickness is vert thin.
    It comes on very fast and you literaly can't move without major stomach discomfort and nausea. Also be carefull of constipation. :O :X :)

    Its a bit like pot, in that you miss most of the effects the first time around as your body doesn't know what to feel for.
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    Swag

    Swag Well-Known Member

    Yeah I wasn't planning on taking it with any opiates, I understand completely what you mean with the pot thing, It's like my body tried feeling the kratom at first, reminded me of the first time I took percocet (my first opiate experience) but then just quickly faded away. Though will I be able to achieve a dose that would not give me motion sickness but still give euphoria. Or will I be bed bound the whole time?
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    ANC

    ANC Well-Known Member

    just take another 6g again and see how it goes.
    Its realy fun shareing some with a few friends, realy gets the social thing going, better than a glass of wine.
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    mescalinebandit420

    mescalinebandit420 Well-Known Member

    that sounds awsome. i plan on gettin sum kratom soon also. so u said 6gs is a good dose to start with?
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    ANC

    ANC Well-Known Member

    If you are small, you could start on less, also note that there is a slight diffirence between the diffirent strains of kratom, you may want to order a few types and see which you like best.
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    Swag

    Swag Well-Known Member

    I ended up eatting another 10 grams and definetly felt opiate like effects but just like the poppy tea i've been drinking, minor to no euphoria. Which is what i'm really after. Oh well first day of my tolerance break. Plan on stopping a week and see if that makes a difference.
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    ANC

    ANC Well-Known Member

    lol, don't compare it to opium.
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    Swag

    Swag Well-Known Member

    Both of them suck from my experience so far. Though my opiate tolerance is weird, I can blow a 30OC one day and get smacked and then the next day I'll do the same amount and won't feel anything at all. I guess my opiate tolerance rises fast. Still I've never felt any type of euphoria like I get from even doing 15 mg of Oxy or 20mg of Hydro from Kratom or Poppy tea.
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    ANC

    ANC Well-Known Member

    Could simply be the strain, or an old batch or something, I'm amazed you could hold down 10g of that stuff, I would be so sick at that level, but probably feeling good as long as I lie down then.
    Where did you order from, and what type did you get?
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    Swag

    Swag Well-Known Member

    Z-elcectric, I've heard great reviews from him on other forums. I do get fucked up from it but no euphoria more just like a headache feeling in my head and a minor body stoning. Also I wasn't able to keep it all down either. I threw up a bit on my last spoon full but was still able to get the majority of it down.
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    ndangerspecimen101

    ndangerspecimen101 Well-Known Member

    I do love an occasional glass of some good Merlot... but you say a few grams of kratom eases the conversational setting... ah must give it a try then :)
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    ndangerspecimen101

    ndangerspecimen101 Well-Known Member

    ANC has the best sources for herbal supplements... you got to be worry of some vendors... some stock bullshit quality.
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    Swag

    Swag Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I heard that when I was looking at forums about Kratom but there were a lot of good reviews on Z-eclectric. I'd suggest his Ultra Enhanced Indo. I've never personally tried it but the dosage for a non-opiate tolerant person is supposed to be 500mg. Unless you like the idea of eating 5-7 grams of bitter tasting powdery leaf material that sticks to your mouth. I also heard the Kratom crystals are supposed to blow you away. An the majority of extracts other than those 2 are really not much more potent than the plain leaf. Though I'm new to the whole kratom scene, this is just information I've gathered from reading threads.
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    chewy2282

    chewy2282 Member

    i love kratom. I have good sources for it as well if anybodys interested. There is an extreme difference in potency and effect. Bali is generally the commercial, cheap, mass farmed, lowest quality. it gives me a headache to be honest. I spend the extra cash on maeng da. Also know as pimps kratom. Its a good strian that gives you lots of speedy energy. I work stupid amount of hours and it helps the days glide by. super green malaysian is a very high quality thats a little more affordable. I actually get a blend of 4 strains to give me a good synergy and economical as well. I beg anyone that tries kratom, just remember that much like ganja, you get what you pay for. And its just as extreme a difference as swag to nugs. Anybody wants to know more just ask.
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    Swag

    Swag Well-Known Member

    I feel you I got a headache right now after eatting ten grams but that's because I took to much. I've been eatting teaspoon fulls throughout the day today and have been catching a nice semi-euphoric opiate buzz for about 45-60 minutes each spoonful. I only have like 5 grams left though. Time to call it quits on the opi's for awhile :lol:
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    ANC

    ANC Well-Known Member

    Maeng Da, yeah, thats the one that made me seasick, well, acualy we made a mix of conniseur grade and that, to have a big jug full for us and co.
    Lol, lets just say, it needed a slightly smaller dose than what we normally take.
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    chewy2282

    chewy2282 Member

    oh yeah, treat this lovely tree with respect. She'll make you sick as a dog other wise. I like to add 1 and a half teaspoons to a cup of coffee in the morning before work. If its a high grade like maeng da she'll keep ya fluffy feeling tell lunch. Some people take much larger quantitys but ive found less is better. Run the risk of the imbalence or sea sick feeling. But at the quantitys i use it its more like super coffee then anything. It gives me the boost i need to get all my work done. I believe it helps with mental clarity and focus. Im a different breed then most but i know others that feel the same about kratom so...

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