Kens GDP Changed to Dungeon Vault Genetics

rocknratm

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Thanks I just keep my recipe simple and don't over do it. I wish I could say the same thing about my seedling that look like shit. That's why I always prefer to start from clones....lolView attachment 3775601
are you using a light nute soil mix like a starter one?
My seedlings would look like that when I used a starter soil, not enough nutes in it I think. I ended up using my normal roots organic in most of the cup and just a little starter on top. No more yellow or pale seedlings. And the growth rate was much better.
 

sky rocket

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are you using a light nute soil mix like a starter one?
My seedlings would look like that when I used a starter soil, not enough nutes in it I think. I ended up using my normal roots organic in most of the cup and just a little starter on top. No more yellow or pale seedlings. And the growth rate was much better.
Thanks for the tip man I appreciate it. What's your ppm's when you start feeding your little ones?
Coco a bit dry will make the salts rise. I have to rinse my coco well before I use it for seedlings or they will turn out like that.
Okay I'll keep that in mind....
So two more have died. I always struggle to start seedlings off in coco. Also I think I rushed it because normally I leave them in the rapid rooters longer for a stronger root development. I got so excited and saw one root I immediatly transferred them to coco. Funny thing is that I normally start them off in a aero cloner. Next time around I will take my time.
 

GreenLegend420

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Thanks I just keep my recipe simple and don't over do it. I wish I could say the same thing about my seedling that look like shit. That's why I always prefer to start from clones....lolView attachment 3775601
What ive been doing these days is using one of those styrofoam seed starter trays that float in the little trays with rooter plugs. But i put mine in a tote with about 10 gal of water, very light on nutes, and 2 air stones hooked to a al40 running 24/7. I guess you could call it a dwc seed starter. It works great cause you can throw up to 50 in there in a very small space.

Very fast growth. I run mine up a couple of nodes then transplant. Just be careful if you have a lot in there. The roots will grow fast and you when you go to transplant you'll feel like your untangling a garbage bag full of christmas lights!
 
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higher self

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Thanks for the tip man I appreciate it. What's your ppm's when you start feeding your little ones?

Okay I'll keep that in mind....
So two more have died. I always struggle to start seedlings off in coco. Also I think I rushed it because normally I leave them in the rapid rooters longer for a stronger root development. I got so excited and saw one root I immediatly transferred them to coco. Funny thing is that I normally start them off in a aero cloner. Next time around I will take my time.
I had a bunch of seeds die off using my reused soil so I switched to 100% coco. Still had some die off or get stunted. I know the problem was from not rinsing/flushing the coco well enough. Another thing that helps is to fluff the coco into the containers & not compact it down to much. So once potted I gently water the coco or mist it with a sprayer so the coco doesnt compact to much & the roots have an easier time growing.
 

rocknratm

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Thanks for the tip man I appreciate it. What's your ppm's when you start feeding your little ones?

Okay I'll keep that in mind....
So two more have died. I always struggle to start seedlings off in coco. Also I think I rushed it because normally I leave them in the rapid rooters longer for a stronger root development. I got so excited and saw one root I immediatly transferred them to coco. Funny thing is that I normally start them off in a aero cloner. Next time around I will take my time.
I dont feed them, I just count on the roots organic to be hot enough. Usually is. But in your case id do a very light feed like 1/8 or 1/4 strength. I dont follow ppm because im in soil. I actually never really feed in veg, I let them use whats in the soil and a week or two into flower I start feeding or top feed with ss.
 

sky rocket

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What ive been doing these days is using one of those styrofoam seed starter trays that float in the little trays with rooter plugs. But i put mine in a tote with about 10 gal of water, very light on nutes, and 2 air stones hooked to a al40 running 24/7. I guess you could call it a dwc seed starter. It works great cause you can throw up to 50 in there in a very small space.

Very fast growth. I run mine up a couple of nodes then transplant. Just be careful if you have a lot in there. The roots will grow fast and you when you go to transplant you'll feel like your untangling a garbage bag full of christmas lights!
Thanks! I'll probably do something like that but I'll invest in a 1/10th hp chiller just to avoid root rot.
 

GreenLegend420

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Thanks! I'll probably do something like that but I'll invest in a 1/10th hp chiller just to avoid root rot.
Yes do that. I forgot to add i have a chilling wort in mine too. I have a diy dehumidifier chiller. I sent the 1/10 i bought to save power back cause i was very unimpressed with its performance.

I can add to that clones wont root in it with it bieng chilled at least not in 10 days. I moved them to another raft in room temp water and boom roots exploded out the bottom.

I'll throw a pic in here when i get a chance to take one to show
 

eastcoastled

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Thanks for the tip man I appreciate it. What's your ppm's when you start feeding your little ones?

Okay I'll keep that in mind....
So two more have died. I always struggle to start seedlings off in coco. Also I think I rushed it because normally I leave them in the rapid rooters longer for a stronger root development. I got so excited and saw one root I immediatly transferred them to coco. Funny thing is that I normally start them off in a aero cloner. Next time around I will take my time.
I never lose a seedling once i get them in the coco. You can't charge your seedling mix the same as when you up pot. I feed/charge with 1/10 of my veg formula or less. At that age they really don't need to be fed, but in coco, they need the medium to stay stable. I have always found, the less nutrient/minerals in my water, the more unstable it is. With a light nutrient mix, the ph always swings up. I always keep the first feed closer to 6.0 or slightly above and gradually work them down(i know it has been rising the whole time they are in the rooter, so i don't want to shock them with a 5.8 feeding). I don't think you can underfeed when they are that small, i think of it as keeping the ph in check vs feeding. Last, don't let them get too dry. You have delicate roots just under the surface. Once that top layer gets a dusting of dry coco, it's close to watering time.....just keep it to a light watering, as the bottom will still be saturated. you still want the roots to reach for the bottom, but you can't let them dry out.
 

sky rocket

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I never lose a seedling once i get them in the coco. You can't charge your seedling mix the same as when you up pot. I feed/charge with 1/10 of my veg formula or less. At that age they really don't need to be fed, but in coco, they need the medium to stay stable. I have always found, the less nutrient/minerals in my water, the more unstable it is. With a light nutrient mix, the ph always swings up. I always keep the first feed closer to 6.0 or slightly above and gradually work them down(i know it has been rising the whole time they are in the rooter, so i don't want to shock them with a 5.8 feeding). I don't think you can underfeed when they are that small, i think of it as keeping the ph in check vs feeding. Last, don't let them get too dry. You have delicate roots just under the surface. Once that top layer gets a dusting of dry coco, it's close to watering time.....just keep it to a light watering, as the bottom will still be saturated. you still want the roots to reach for the bottom, but you can't let them dry out.
Thanks for the tip man. So far all 10 are looking good. I'll go with the 1/10th feeding with the proper ph.......
 
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