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as these were finishing up i had started my second round of f2 seeds to look for any more gems that might be hiding in there. i started them 12/12 under a 600w metal halide in a closet with the door open (lots of light leaks constantly) all of these are females.
 

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chopped and hung (seeded but 2 hermis so i had to scrap all that seed.
very nice smells 2 distinct groups one being a really nice spicy cofeeish smell with a sort of smoothness to it i cant describe, and a more creamy/ lemony smell (the one i prefer)
clones of these girls are being flowered beneath these to properly seed.
overall a good strain but it didnt have many of the qualities that make a strain a real winner in my neck of the woods, i hope to improve this dramatically with my kaiju#10 selection
 

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okay ive got more but im tired of uploading so ill do more when i can until then i hope you all enjoy my pics and story -MAG
 

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i didnt have enough room to run high enough numbers to satisfy my curiosity so after i chopped those i put this second f2 run in on 12/12 from seed ( didnty find anything that really stood out so i just ran it till i got seed and hacked them at like week 7.
keepin the bottoms cleaned up as usual i usually pull between 10-15 grams per 1 gallon under a 600w in a sog with 707 and vermicompost teas/ organic shit like sugar and myccos
that 3 headed guy at the bottom is my 1 select male i used to pollinate my f2
 

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here are my select clones from my f2 population chosen for either yield,smell,resin coverage or density ( spider mites hit me bad and i couldnt stay on top of them like i woud have liked to because i had to be away from home a lot during this time.) spider mites and all you can still see who shines amongst even the best of the best (hint:its kaiju #10 :D)
the others went to absolute shite lol
i left the pics of them just for reference so you can see how even under stress this lady will produce! and these are seeded btw
i used a combo of calicleaner and neem oil/ insecticidal soap to combat the mites it works very well you just have to stay on top of it and unfortunately i was unable to.
 

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heres some pics from a couple days ago, i cut them down since and the seed is drying and i am prepping to run my f3 to find some good males and backcross to my f2 kaiju #10 before continuing on to the bcf2 with a full sib mating if i can find a good enough representattion of kaiju in my bvf1 if not then ill just back cross omce more and try again. I also want to get ahold of some CS and self her to do a progeny run and see what the genotype of this plant is looking like ( or at least give me a better idea)
 

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Bravo! :clap:

with the plant being male so i assumed that it was a Y linked trait that i could take advantage of as a sort of early warning detector for males if that makes sense to anyone else.
I've done a lot of research and observation of whorled phyllotaxy and I suspect the reason whorled is more often male (seemingly based on online experiences) is because males have a higher concentration of auxins, and auxins play an essential role in phyllotaxy and plant structure in general (without it it would be a stick not a plant). It's most definitely not sex-linked however. And whorled doesn't necessarily mean higher chance of male, but male does seem to have higher chance of whorled. However, so far I have found more female than male whorled in the offspring of my whorled male. I've written a lot about it on a let's say a more serious forum (like my pic journal but with way more text), won't link it here but google for the obvious if you are interested in more details.

Anyway, nice job so far, I look forward to following "Kaiju". Good name, "Kaiju". Something a customer can order in a dispensary or coffeeshop rather than targeted at growers. The things I sometimes see on the menus...
 

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just more pics of the mite devastated clones in a different light just a day or 2 before chop
 

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Bravo! :clap:

I've done a lot of research and observation of whorled phyllotaxy and I suspect the reason whorled is more often male (seemingly based on online experiences) is because males have a higher concentration of auxins, and auxins play an essential role in phyllotaxy and plant structure in general (without it it would be a stick not a plant). It's most definitely not sex-linked however. And whorled doesn't necessarily mean higher chance of male, but male does seem to have higher chance of whorled. However, so far I have found more female than male whorled in the offspring of my whorled male. I've written a lot about it on a let's say a more serious forum (like my pic journal but with way more text), won't link it here but google for the obvious if you are interested in more details.

Anyway, nice job so far, I look forward to following "Kaiju". Good name, "Kaiju". Something a customer can order in a dispensary or coffeeshop rather than targeted at growers. The things I sometimes see on the menus...
Thanx for looking at my thread Sativied! i appreciate the likes as well my friend :)
thats bada$$! its hard finding info on this stuff the only other person ive found was on that other forum you mentioned ( im mostly a troll on that 1 lol) i just peeped it out but i will definitely be reading the full thread later. thanks for the info as well thats good to know and awesome to hear someone else is intrested in the same things ( i even saw Sam chimed in on your thread with intrest)

I try :) haha kaiju is the japanese term for those giant monsters like godzilla and mothra too so i thought it was just a good fit.

ive got a number 10 (the one from seed that i revegged) in my backyard right now in a 30 gallon with sunshine #4 and maxibloom nutes so i can push her to the limits and see what she can really do.
 

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thats bada$$! its hard finding info on this stuff the only other person ive found was on that other forum you mentioned ( im mostly a troll on that 1 lol) i just peeped it out but i will definitely be reading the full thread later. thanks for the info as well thats good to know and awesome to hear someone else is interested in the same things ( i even saw Sam chimed in on your thread with interest)
Owww I'm mostly a troll on this one ;) That's actually not the one I meant though, not very active there, I meant 1 search result lower in google, "breeding for whorls". It's the primary trait I'm selecting on. Trying to get 6 whorled for my next flowering round. I have no expectations of being able to breed it true, but trying anyway, or at least up to a point where there's a high ratio of whorlers. The sparkly seedlings you referred to on my profile page are all offspring from the same quad-whorled male (most branches where tri-whorled actually).

Thanx for looking at my thread Sativied! i appreciate the likes as well my friend :)
You're most welcome, thank you for sharing your work in a thread here. And the likes are well-deserved.
 

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only got about 9 seeda total from my kaiju #10 so ill run them all in maybe 10 days to 2 weeks and hope for a good male, ill lso run a few seeds from each of my select females for progeny testing and possibly to find a better male and just perform a second backcross.
another thing i picked up from dog breeding is progeby testing a lot of times the best producers on your yard arent the studs (usually heterozygous genotypes) but the tighter bred less impressive bit hes that can throw winners all day because of there genotype as a breeder i feel it is very importNt to try and learn the genotype of your clones and strains as best as possible in order to do the most accurate and beneficial crosses and pairings and avoid random pollen chucking (as far as breeders who breed for the community and not just personally)
 

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the world of toroughbred horse breeding is pretty intresting as well and lends some validity to my earlier statements about dogs and cannabis look at seabiscuit for instance (proven winner) but to my knowlege wasnyt able to produce many winners because of his genotype he wasnt a line bred horse he was a mutt and as such was never able to pass on his amazing ability (shoulda cloned him lol)or if you look into fighting dogs youll see the same names over and over on many pedigrees bolio/tombstone, redboy, jeep, eli, chinaman and so on, because linebreeding is the only way to reliably produce winners imo. something else to look at is the ROM on fighting dogs many with this title have few wins and maybe even losses but they produce winners because whats stored in there genes
 
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few updates this morning, i will be starting the few kaiju 10 seeds i got from my f2 run and ill take the males ofthis f3 seed lot and back cross them to my kaiju 10 clone that i have in a 30 gallon pot in sunshine #4 using k.i.s.s (maxibloom) to see how far i can push this cut.
then ill pop those seeds (probably about 100 females) and see what im working with.
 

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I have a question. You said you started experimenting with shiatsu kush am I correct? Were your original male and female starter plants both shiatsu kush?
 

bf80255

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I have a question. You said you started experimenting with shiatsu kush am I correct? Were your original male and female starter plants both shiatsu kush?
yes i beleive i have pics of them on page 1, when inbreeding you have to use related plants like bro to sis or half bro tp half sis ormom to son otherwise any outcrossing would bring in new genes and recombinations that i would have to start the work over on stabalizing for and with the goal of kaiju ultimately being stabalization (to use as a skeleton strain to cross superior cuts into)that was the option that best suited my goals
 

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but if you used to of the same strains to cross technically wouldn't your "kaiju" just be shiatsu kush older gen? Technically you didn't create a new strain.. not trying to troll just sayin
 

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but if you used to of the same strains to cross technically wouldn't your "kaiju" just be shiatsu kush older gen? Technically you didn't create a new strain.. not trying to troll just sayin
no i hear your concerns loud and clear :)
and the answer is no, shiatsu kush is an f1 hybrid as far as i know, im onto the f3 and about to back cross to an f2 to stabilize thats a long ways off from crossing a strain and slapping a new name on it go ahead and look at all the pics yourself kaiju#10 (f2) is a very unique plant that im using to start my new IBL also dubbed Kaiju
 
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