Just another poor Cali connection review :(

whitebb2727 said:

No. Dude nevermind. You are not the brightest bulb in the bunch.

I'm saying you bought seeds without researching them. Then when you found out they were known for herms you still didn't watch for herms and was surprised to find seeds.

That's your own fault.

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I'm pretty sure I made it clear that my big mistake was choosing Cali Connection. I completely accept that, the whole point of this thread was to make that clear so others don't make the same mistake. It appears we are now in agreement. Thats a good thing. Please take a look at the giant pic i posted, wish i would have seen that picture before

llnknth said:

did you run the chem91 or sfv og?

next time try csi humbolt.....great company

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Nope didn't get a chance to run either the 91 or SFV. Ok ill check them out, thanks

llnknth said:

id have to agree...dont take it personal,learn from your mistake and move on.....

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I'm not out to make someone look a fool. I just know that I started working in the veggie garden as a kid and all these years later I screw up. If something goes wrong its the first thing I look at to see if it was me or not.

I just don't how someone can know something is prone to herm and not watch it and be surprised by seeds.

I also know that nanners are common in certain strains. I have a couple landrace sativas that do it.

A lot of strains will do it without stress if they over ripen. Its one way fem seeds are made. Called rodelazation. Not sure if that is spelled right.

just so you know there are growers out there running the same strains with no issues.....its hard to blame a company when 90+% of your plants hermed....and you didnt even notice most until seeds had developed....logic tells me its grower error....there are way more good reports on cc than bad,i dont think its fair to put all the blame on a seed company

try a good all around strain like c99 or sweettooth#3.....or pay more attention to your grow habits

llnknth said:

did you run the chem91 or sfv og?

next time try csi humbolt.....great company

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whitebb2727 said:

I just don't how someone can know something is prone to herm and not watch it and be surprised by seeds.

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I never said anything close to that, I didn't realize CC's strains were prone to herm until the shit had already hit the fan. For the second time it didn't come to my attention until it was already too late. Who told you i was reading through reviews while the strains were flowering?

llnknth said:

just so you know there are growers out there running the same strains with no issues.....its hard to blame a company when 90+% of your plants hermed....and you didnt even notice most until seeds had developed....logic tells me its grower error....there are way more good reports on cc than bad,i dont think its fair to put all the blame on a seed company

try a good all around strain like c99 or sweettooth#3.....or pay more attention to your grow habits

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lol You guys are killing me. All you have to do is take a look at some of there own pictures on their website. There are many more reviews just like mine complaining about herms. People have even gone so far as to joke about Swerve being a herm himself. It's that bad. To be 100% clear 90% of my entire grow did not herm out, however that is pretty spot on with everything that was planted from Cali Connection. None of my TH seeds strains hermed out. My Reserva Privada's also did fine

Common TrumpOG it is obvious to growers you do not grow. If you do and can't show pics talk growing. Talk how you feed, how you water, You sound as bad as the guy with the wolf avatar. His grow looks like my failures lol. Yours are probably worst than his. LMFAO!

Stayed out of it till the wolf picked up on one sentence from MMD. Typical lame move.

Lol you wouldn't happen to be Swerves "partner" would you?

i gave my advise,take it or dont.......good luck on your next grow

llnknth said:

i gave my advise,take it or dont.......good luck on your next grow

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Thanks, I'll be sure to look into your suggestion.

i have grown fire99 many times and its a trouble free 9 week consistent strain,tastes great with awesome effects...cheap seeds too

TrumpOG said:

I never said anything close to that, I didn't realize CC's strains were prone to herm until the shit had already hit the fan. For the second time it didn't come to my attention until it was already too late. Who told you i was reading through reviews while the strains were flowering?

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When did you read the reviews? After a flower?

Now this is even better. Did you harvest, find a bunch of seeds then look up the reviews?

TrumpOG said:

I'm pretty sure I made it clear that my big mistake was choosing Cali Connection. I completely accept that, the whole point of this thread was to make that clear so others don't make the same mistake. It appears we are now in agreement. Thats a good thing. Please take a look at the giant pic i posted, wish i would have seen that picture before



Nope didn't get a chance to run either the 91 or SFV. Ok ill check them out, thanks

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The thing you fail to realize that there is a difference in full on herms from the beginning of flower and one that throws a few nanners in late flowering.

The difference is that the ones that show both sexes from the beginning will be full if seed.

The one that throws a few nanners late will have way less seed. Sometimes just a few seeds in a whole plant. The pollen is not as viable.

So if it was the full on herm you would've had to noticed it as I doubt anyone never checks a plant during the whole flowering phase.

If the ones you grew had a lot of seed there may have been a male somewhere close.

I'm confused. I just don't get how if could be missed if it was heavily seeded.

They mostly threw nanners late. A lot of them looked just like their Deadhead pic on the website. Truly sad I missed that one. There definitely weren't just a few seeds, now there wasn't more seed than bud but the value of the product was lowered significantly. It wasn't like the trimmers could just simply pick out a few seeds. There were tons deep in the bud. I had to write "SEEDED" on the bags so no patients were getting stiffed

How about the people asking for pics,post pics of the setup they are running..

Try to work trumpog into posting pics of his setup...

That just might suffice^

whitebb2727 said:

When did you read the reviews? After a flower?

Now this is even better. Did you harvest, find a bunch of seeds then look up the reviews?

The thing you fail to realize that there is a difference in full on herms from the beginning of flower and one that throws a few nanners in late flowering.

The difference is that the ones that show both sexes from the beginning will be full if seed.

The one that throws a few nanners late will have way less seed. Sometimes just a few seeds in a whole plant. The pollen is not as viable.

So if it was the full on herm you would've had to noticed it as I doubt anyone never checks a plant during the whole flowering phase.

If the ones you grew had a lot of seed there may have been a male somewhere close.

I'm confused. I just don't get how if could be missed if it was heavily seeded.

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I'm dying, I just keep picture Al Bundy laying into this guy. Kudos

While I do think there is a possibility that OP got "herm prone" beans, the gambling side of me thinks it's more likely his own doing.

Like you said, he bought the seeds with no research and then grew them in his main garden and obviously didn't even do basic inspections of his product to prevent this kind of scenario. That is why he got seeds and is now pissed.

An experienced grower knows if you grow polyhybrids from seed you will have variation and a higher likelihood of undesirable traits, i.e. hermies, no matter whom the breeder. The breeder can test seeds and report results but it impossible not to have wild variations with polys. The breeder would have to work the strain further to see stability and these days that just doesn't happen, with few exceptions.

An experience grower would also know to run seeds in quarantine gardens for their first run so you know what to expect from your plants before you put them in a producing field. If you actually have a stabilized strain in seed form you can get away with always running seeds in your main garden with little problems of variation.

Over my years of growing I've grown large 100+ plant flood trays indoors, multiple outdoor grows of 15+ plants, I've always got something going in a tent for head and no matter how I grow I find time to inspect my shit.

If you don't you're lazy and your failures are your own. Calicon may have supplied the dud but he let the dud become a problem.

Some growers tend to get VERY busy and don't always have time to inspect their plants 24/7. I've got a lot of patients which leads to a lot of plants. I simply didn't have the time to inspect them every single day. I had volunteers doing routine maintenance and I made a schedule for them but my eyes couldn't be on the plants 24/7. These people will now know what to look for if i were ever to run into the same problem.

TrumpOG said:

The big mistake was choosing Cali Connection. Believe me I learned from my mistake, I'll be avoiding them from here on out. Also I see no need for calling me a liar, name calling isn't what these forums are here for. I never said you were a straight up liar. I just think you're wrong to just make a bunch of assumptions and then treat them like facts.

I don't think reading one book from the 80's is going to automatically make anyone a great grower but I'll check it out.

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Lol. He explains the many ways you may have helped your plants to reverse.

genuity said:

So many untruths in this thread...

Like he said,what he did wrong was order Cali con... that simple people.

Everybody wants to be right...

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You asked where the seeds were. They prove typical stress related reversal. And he didn’t notice until too late. Cmon now.

MichiganMedGrower said:

Lol. He explains the many ways you may have helped your plants to reverse.

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Well it's so common with their strains it even ended up in one of their pictures! Anyone interested in strains that consistently "reverse" and get seeded out? I doubt it

TrumpOG said:

Some growers tend to get VERY busy and don't always have time to inspect their plants 24/7. I've got a lot of patients which leads to a lot of plants. I simply didn't have the time to inspect them every single day. I had volunteers doing routine maintenance and I made a schedule for them but my eyes couldn't be on the plants 24/7. These people will now know what to look for if i were ever to run into the same problem.

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Dude. You don't have to watch them 24/7.

If you put any effort in it at all you would've known. If it was heavily seeded you would have known early flower and culled them.

No. Your helpers will not know what to look for. You nor them found it the first time. You refuse to even accept your part in it so it can't be corrected.