“Josh D OG” by Karma
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akhiymjames
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You know I wondered when this first came out why they didn’t use 92 OG aka Ghost OG for the cross since that supposed to be the original OG cut. It’s possible they could be trying to tell the truth right in front our eyes lol
Moderndayhippy
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Here is what karma said about the line on a different site.
I bred this for josh with josh help in selections.
I didnt name it. I would have preferred a differnt name.
The seeds are very worthy. I put in more then 3 damm years a lot of crops and space. And travel
The white og was a pollen donor because all is female cuts to start from. Need a male to get the ball rolling. I bred away from it in every selection and bx ore ix . Thats why i used white og as its easy for me to reconize in the offspring so i can select away from it easy.r
Simply said in one sentence would be
((TKs1BX) x (sfv x tk)BX1 IX) x HA OG BX3
But as said before its all in the selection of everystep that makes it to what it is now.
3 lines all bred separate.
1
Tk reversed and selfed by rado
I selected a female.from 10 seeds. (Won cup bcn 2014)
Crossed it with white og
Then selected a male.from that(TK dominant)and backcrossed to the selected TKs1 cut.
Making TKs1bx1
Selected a cut from that.
2
Sfv crossed with reversed tk pollen.
I selected a cut from 10 seeds.
Crossed it with my white og male.
Selected a male (sfv x tk dominant)
Backcrossed it to the sfv x tk cut i selected.
Incrossed it. Bx x Bx
Selected a male and crossed that with the selected cut of TKs1bx
Selected a cut from that. This the female in the cross.
3
Ha OG crossed with a sfv OG bx male (lucifer OG)
Ha OG x lucifer OG aka (HA OG bx1)
Ha OG x Ha OG bx1 = Ha OG bx2 (sold as biker)
Ha OG x ha OG bx2 = Ha OG bx3
Selected male from the bx3
((Tks1bx1) x (sfv x tk bx1 ix)) x Ha OGbx3
Its build up out of 3 lines i tryd to lock the genes and pheno.s i wanted. It all leans on my selections. Its called breeding. Not pollen chucking.
This is proberly the most worked line i did yet in my life. The goal was to combine these 3 old og cuts in a regular seedline, i persenoly love it. Ask josh his friends most grew it out already what the about it, growing it next to the cuts. Ore grow it yourself and have a geniun opinion.
When you know me ore josh you know we wouldnt release it if it wasnt up to standard. It would wreck both our reputations.
Im always honest and open. Wish the whole seed scene be more like that.
As you can see in my reaction i feel a bit hurt by the easy way some judge it, without even understanding what happend. Ore grown it, Its all about breeding and selections for persenol preferd genes.
Wait a few months and see more results from unbased people. Ore grow it yourself and have a real opinion on what it is nomatter what names etc.
You can have 10 companys all selling a OG x Chem writen as genetics and all be totaly differnt in that they used differnt plants.
I prefer persenol selected plants from seed over shared so called elite cuts. I rather have 100 seeds of a s1 ore better a double bx to select from than THE CUT. How do you know tha elite cit is the best that genepool has to offer ? Plant a 100 and you realy see whats in it.
I bred this for josh with josh help in selections.
I didnt name it. I would have preferred a differnt name.
The seeds are very worthy. I put in more then 3 damm years a lot of crops and space. And travel
The white og was a pollen donor because all is female cuts to start from. Need a male to get the ball rolling. I bred away from it in every selection and bx ore ix . Thats why i used white og as its easy for me to reconize in the offspring so i can select away from it easy.r
Simply said in one sentence would be
((TKs1BX) x (sfv x tk)BX1 IX) x HA OG BX3
But as said before its all in the selection of everystep that makes it to what it is now.
3 lines all bred separate.
1
Tk reversed and selfed by rado
I selected a female.from 10 seeds. (Won cup bcn 2014)
Crossed it with white og
Then selected a male.from that(TK dominant)and backcrossed to the selected TKs1 cut.
Making TKs1bx1
Selected a cut from that.
2
Sfv crossed with reversed tk pollen.
I selected a cut from 10 seeds.
Crossed it with my white og male.
Selected a male (sfv x tk dominant)
Backcrossed it to the sfv x tk cut i selected.
Incrossed it. Bx x Bx
Selected a male and crossed that with the selected cut of TKs1bx
Selected a cut from that. This the female in the cross.
3
Ha OG crossed with a sfv OG bx male (lucifer OG)
Ha OG x lucifer OG aka (HA OG bx1)
Ha OG x Ha OG bx1 = Ha OG bx2 (sold as biker)
Ha OG x ha OG bx2 = Ha OG bx3
Selected male from the bx3
((Tks1bx1) x (sfv x tk bx1 ix)) x Ha OGbx3
Its build up out of 3 lines i tryd to lock the genes and pheno.s i wanted. It all leans on my selections. Its called breeding. Not pollen chucking.
This is proberly the most worked line i did yet in my life. The goal was to combine these 3 old og cuts in a regular seedline, i persenoly love it. Ask josh his friends most grew it out already what the about it, growing it next to the cuts. Ore grow it yourself and have a geniun opinion.
When you know me ore josh you know we wouldnt release it if it wasnt up to standard. It would wreck both our reputations.
Im always honest and open. Wish the whole seed scene be more like that.
As you can see in my reaction i feel a bit hurt by the easy way some judge it, without even understanding what happend. Ore grown it, Its all about breeding and selections for persenol preferd genes.
Wait a few months and see more results from unbased people. Ore grow it yourself and have a real opinion on what it is nomatter what names etc.
You can have 10 companys all selling a OG x Chem writen as genetics and all be totaly differnt in that they used differnt plants.
I prefer persenol selected plants from seed over shared so called elite cuts. I rather have 100 seeds of a s1 ore better a double bx to select from than THE CUT. How do you know tha elite cit is the best that genepool has to offer ? Plant a 100 and you realy see whats in it.
jayblaze710
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Are there any US based seed banks with Josh D OG in stock? Anyone on IG? I’d prefer not to have to deal with customs if possible.
lungbutter
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i just took two josh d's 10 weeks, they looked great, decent yield of rock hard nugs. didnt get any og taste though, maybe i messed up. idk im more used to sfv type stuff
lungbutter
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just smoked the second and its nice and fuel tasting.
waterproof808
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I saw them on sale for $50. might have to get a second pack
jayblaze710
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Where?
jayblaze710
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Has anyone compared the fem vs reg versions of the Josh D OG? It sounds like Karma focused on the reg line when initially creating it so that would be the one to get, but would like input if anyone’s ran both.
Jay7t5
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I am doing a small 4ltr pot 1 now,ffreebies regular josh D og,its nothing to shout about imho, however it started it's life in a heatwave under a cfl for the first 4 weeks so it stretched like a bitch due to warm days warm night's,frost is ok smell's quite nice, I wouldn't do it again, nothing on bodhi strain im doing,or ugorg killer skunk, mayve if I grew half a dozen or so in perfect conditions I'd have a more positive response but it's unlikely,not dank enough for my liking 
jayblaze710
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I’m assuming you’re talking about the Josh D OG cut? I think most believe it’s the “original” OG at this point, or that’s the prevailing thought.
Karma’s Josh D OG is a seed release that didn’t even use the Josh D OG cut in its breedings. I believe it’s called Josh D OG because selections were made in conjunction with Josh D, but plenty of people have been annoyed at its naming. I’ve read up a bunch on Karma’s Josh D OG line and it sounds like there are better OG phenos from other seed lines. It may take too much from the White which was used early on.
eastcoastled
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You have heard of people getting pheno’s of the White?
Bodyne
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thanks Jay
Jay7t5
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jayblaze710
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Not really White phenos, but not getting real OG phenos either, which I personally would blame on the White. While amazing looking, the White crosses I’ve smoked have tended to be very bland.
Take this all with a grain of salt, because I haven’t grown or smoked most of this stuff first hand. But I have been searching for a true OG in seed form, so ended up reading a bunch on Karma’s genetics. Based on a bunch of grow reports from people trying multiple Karma lines, it seems you’re more likely to find real OG phenos in Biker Kush or Karma’s OG than the Josh D OG line.
eastcoastled
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I get what your saying. I was just curious, b/c I read Karma’s write up about how many years that project took and why he chose the white. His methods and reason for choosing the white really opened my eyes tohow a real breeder makes selections. He broke it down to where it’s more than a roll of the dice, so I would think the odds of getting a white pheno would be slim to none.
Stoned Cold Bulldog
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i'm pretty sure the popular cultivar we now know as GDP was actually the imposter GDP but was good so it took off and that's the one i actually grew out before i had to retire in 09. Most folks don't even know there was a distinct GDP that was not the same plant and was much much better. ijs
I hit that GDP with 1/2 uranium cranium males which is Moles family strain now 33 yrs old approx.
