Jonny in distress - Why does my good pot burn like shit?

shaggydog365

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Ha, Ha. I mean Final flush ur plants until leaves turn yellow. Gets all the left over salts out of ur medium and plants so ur buds taste better and burn better. But u probably knew that already?
 

reasonevangelist

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can't flush or even leach those
Are they invincible or something? I figure pouring too much water would at least dilute their food... and excessively drenching the soil surely has some kind of negative impact...

Why isn't the water out of the bottom of the pot perfectly clear, if nothing is being leached? (mine isn't dark, but it's certainly darker than it was when it went in...)
 

chuck estevez

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Are they invincible or something? I figure pouring too much water would at least dilute their food... and excessively drenching the soil surely has some kind of negative impact...

Why isn't the water out of the bottom of the pot perfectly clear, if nothing is being leached? (mine isn't dark, but it's certainly darker than it was when it went in...)
yeah, Pouring Mass amounts of water changes osmotic pressure, Possibly some bact. and fungi are released, but probably not enough to do anything. Besides, what would be the point?
 

shaggydog365

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When u flush organic u may not be flushing salts buit there is still organic nitrogen and stuff in ur plants silly. I don't know bout u but I don't want to inhaleanything but cleaned out weed. Silly
 

reasonevangelist

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yeah, Pouring Mass amounts of water changes osmotic pressure, Possibly some bact. and fungi are released, but probably not enough to do anything. Besides, what would be the point?
Exactly. I just figured that not only is flushing proper organics Not beneficial (typically), it could also be detrimental, in the way of negatively impacting the micro-life. I also figure it could dilute accumulated particles, or even deplete them, which would deprive the microbes of food, and could potentially suffocate the roots as the water displaces the air.

I think after final top dressing you just stop adding more "feed" (e.g. kelp) at some point, and only give water toward the end... but flushing seems like it's removing something, just not sure what (and if you don't input anything that shouldn't be there in the first place, there shouldn't be anything in need of being removed via flushing).

Of course, i don't claim to have the most thorough understanding of the process.
 

st0wandgrow

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When u flush organic u may not be flushing salts buit there is still organic nitrogen and stuff in ur plants silly. I don't know bout u but I don't want to inhaleanything but cleaned out weed. Silly
Are you farmiliar with the process of mineralization?

The organic amendments in the soil are not available to the plant until microbes have processed them, at which point through death and defication the plants can uptake them.

Are you suggesting that the beneficial microbes in the soil should be "flushed", and how would you go about doing this in a medium with a sufficient cation exchange capacity?

Even though you don't have the slightest clue what the fuck you're talking about, I'd still enjoy you humoring me by answering these questions. :dunce:
 

st0wandgrow

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Exactly. I just figured that not only is flushing proper organics Not beneficial (typically), it could also be detrimental, in the way of negatively impacting the micro-life. I also figure it could dilute accumulated particles, or even deplete them, which would deprive the microbes of food, and could potentially suffocate the roots as the water displaces the air.

I think after final top dressing you just stop adding more "feed" (e.g. kelp) at some point, and only give water toward the end... but flushing seems like it's removing something, just not sure what (and if you don't input anything that shouldn't be there in the first place, there shouldn't be anything in need of being removed via flushing).

Of course, i don't claim to have the most thorough understanding of the process.
Pouring excessive amounts of water on your soil would do nothing but create anaerobic conditions where pathogens and undesirable microbes would flourish, out competing beneficial microbes which could lead to diseased and/or malnourished plants
 

shredder4

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Lets define the big difference in organic soil and chemo growing. Chem growing uses soluble nutrients, organic growing in general uses things that microbes have to digest first to make them soluble for plant uptake. This system is bypassed when using soluble nutrients.

Oh and organic nutrients being not soluble can not be flushed.
 

shaggydog365

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Im not even talking to u guys , im answering jonnyindistress. u bone heads. why don't u stfu and mind ur own business. and I know my shits better than ur shit. rookies!
 
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