Jilly bean bud shots

lttleflavio i remember when you first posted her up cause i thought she was WAY to close to the window lol but yah

about this whole flushing thing

If your using the SS ... it May or may not yellow out depending on how much of the SS you put in the container and how much of the nutes its using becuase you may have a ton of N left from your bloodmeal and worm castings but you may start running out of phosphorus sooner then the N

just start watering more and more but the flush isnt as nescessary there stil lgonna taste bomb and look bomb

just dont sacrifice thc for the flush

but that being said its looking quite matured for a 50 day flower period


ps. if your not yellowing out as soon as youd like try reducing the ammount of nitrogen in your mix less wormcastings or bloodmeal

homebrewer said:

Now you're getting into a flush vs no-flush debate and to each his own on that subject.

In my professional opinion, I'd harvest the OP's plant. The calyxes are swollen and the pistols look to be red/brown and receded. Leaf color is irrelevant IMO, but optimally grown plants should be green at harvest.

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just leave it at the To each his own cause the last optimal part you stated is subjective to each person but if hte OP wants his plants to ylelow out and hes using hte SS if i remember correctly he should just lower the amount of nitrogen in the mix

i have some jilly bean growin right now. hope that they turn out like that;]

Unnk said:

lttleflavio i remember when you first posted her up cause i thought she was WAY to close to the window lol but yah

about this whole flushing thing

If your using the SS ... it May or may not yellow out depending on how much of the SS you put in the container and how much of the nutes its using becuase you may have a ton of N left from your bloodmeal and worm castings but you may start running out of phosphorus sooner then the N

just start watering more and more but the flush isnt as nescessary there stil lgonna taste bomb and look bomb

just dont sacrifice thc for the flush

but that being said its looking quite matured for a 50 day flower period


ps. if your not yellowing out as soon as youd like try reducing the ammount of nitrogen in your mix less wormcastings or bloodmeal

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hey bro...very impressed you remembered, what is an ss though? alright will just take it what it is. im just glad she looked mighty healthy to me. she was actually maturing fast enough, not as fast my third dimension. or she may be flowering more than 50 days. will keep that in mind.

also homebrewer not starting with you but the professional opinion in your statement as well is subjective

id say From my experienced point of view

calling your self a professional with opinions to give is like kinda stroking your own flame lol

SS = Super Soil subs mix

Unnk said:

just leave it at the To each his own cause the last optimal part you stated is subjective to each person....

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If a plant is green and healthy like the OP's, how is that not optimal? Yellow plants at harvest is a sign of poor NPK ratios and a lack of basic nutritional needs.

AK47 from serious seeds, day 63, sunshine mix #8 and fed properly. If you're not keeping them green, you're shorting yourself on quality.

homebrewer said:

If a plant is green and healthy like the OP's, how is that not optimal? Yellow plants at harvest is a sign of poor NPK ratios and a lack of basic nutritional needs.

AK47 from serious seeds, day 63, sunshine mix #8 and fed properly. If you're not keeping them green, you're shorting yourself on quality.

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dang bro...that is one nice plant you got there

lol again leave it at the to each his own by subjective i mean by saying its all opinion plus the flush question is diff for organics and diff for hydro/nute based feeding if you have a living soil like i do you tech dont do anything but water with plain water other then some mollases her and their for the soil and to acheive the autumn fall look with this you lower the nitrogen in the mix this is why i say its subjective not objective

unless the OP has harvested at Green and yellow theirs no telling preff because thats what it becomes in the end of it .. you can have a healthy plant that yellows out by the end of its life cycle by properly controlling the N value to drop down at the right time

by my statement by i wasnt trying to lead you to think the plants will be better flushed im trying to tell you theirs no diff in the plant if using Supersoil and you harvest when their green or when their yellow because i know EXACTLY whats in my soil atleast i should i let my soil build microbe life for a month and half or 2 months before using it

i just ment to say that its all very subjective opinion filled and based off preferance and setup thats all

littleflavio said:

dang bro...that is one nice plant you got there

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Right back at 'cha man. Keep 'em green. Sub would be proud of you.

homebrewer said:

Right back at 'cha man. Keep 'em green. Sub would be proud of you.

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now im just confused homebrewer sub beleives in yellowing before harvest

Unnk said:

now im just confused homebrewer sub beleives in yellowing before harvest

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What I meant was that he's representing Sub's strain well. But in regards to what you said, sub's Dank books don't have yellow plants and neither does his youtube channel when he's showcasing a strain. He's built his soil around the idea that it will keep most plants and strains healthy their entire lives. Some strains may feed a little more than others and thus depleting the soil quicker. That's why I'm not an organic guy anymore. I try my best to give my plants what they need in the amounts that are need in both my Sunshine mix pots and in my flood and drain tables.

I've been at this for 10 years and in my experience, keeping plants healthy until harvest day gives you the best yields with the highest quality product.

lol dude did you even watch thevids on his channel? he states in one showcase "This just in flowering plants that finish up with to much green in their leaves are lacking in taste" again this was said in personal opinion and in the show cases you clearely see the fan leaves starting to yellow. not on all of them but on a good portion i dont care how long youve been at it but i know for a FACT that subcool def endorses a yelowing of leaves before harvest i mnot talking EVERY LEAF yellow or even ALL of the leaf is yellow 30-60% usually

so please if i have to go post in my thread about it i will to get a response from him im just telling you not cool to misquote someone and the reason he made his supersoil is becuase its the EASIEST THING FOR MED PATIENTS TO DO they just receive a plant from him and water and grow it he states this many times alot of the patients that have pain problems dont wanna go through the hassle of everything and it makes it easy for them because all they have to do is keep the soil moist.... again dont misquote the man

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lol dude did you even watch thevids on his channel? he states in one showcase "This just in flowering plants that finish up with to much green in their leaves are lacking in taste" again this was said in personal opinion and in the show cases you clearely see the fan leaves starting to yellow. not on all of them but on a good portion i dont care how long youve been at it but i know for a FACT that subcool def endorses a yelowing of leaves before harvest i mnot talking EVERY LEAF yellow or even ALL of the leaf is yellow 30-60% usually

so please if i have to go post in my thread about it i will to get a response from him im just telling you not cool to misquote someone and the reason they just receive a plant from him and water and grow it he states this many times alot of the patients that have pain problems dont wanna go through the hassle of everything and it makes it easy for them because all they have to do is keep the soil moist.... again dont misquote the man

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Where did I quote him? I made observations. Growers with yellow plants at harvest aren't doing that because they think it's ideal, they just lack the skills to keep them green.

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https://www.greenpassion.org/index.php?/topic/18492-organic-fade-the-key-to-flavor/

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I think your link would make more sense if the pics were visible. Regardless of what the pics look like, he's talking about taste and taste isn't pain relieving or a solution to anxiety. If I wanted an orange flavor, I'd eat an orange. In regards to his 'infinite dankage' theory, well, I laughed just like he thought people would.

I respect sub as a grower and as a breeder, but I don't agree with all his practices. I think if growers would take a step back and quit treating cannabis as this anomaly of a plant, we'd be a better community for it.

homebrewer said:

I think your link would make more sense if the pics were visible. Regardless of what the pics look like, he's talking about taste and taste isn't pain relieving or a solution to anxiety. If I wanted an orange flavor, I'd eat an orange. In regards to his 'infinite dankage' theory, well, I laughed just like he thought people would.

I respect sub as a grower and as a breeder, but I don't agree with all his practices. I think if growers would take a step back and quit treating cannabis as this anomaly of a plant, we'd be a better community for it.

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and i think this community would be better with out ppl like you shoving their opinions down other peoples throats

Unnk said:

and i think this community would be better with out ppl like you shoving their opinions down other peoples throats

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My 'opinions' are based on facts, science, and pragmatism. My plants speak for themselves so continue on with flushing and sugars in the soil and 72 hours of dark and yellow plants at harvest, but ask yourself this; would you treat your garden veggies like that? What would a botanist think of those practices? I rest my case.

I again rest MY case that you started this whole debate when i originally was stating TO EACH HIS OWN

and telling you im not starting with you but you took that opportunity to continue and push your side on the debate when your first post was trying to avoid it?

again showing me you think you know everything under the sun about growing and you think your shit dont stank.

again ill state this over and over again its not a question of facts for anyone else but you cause what works for 1 person and setup does not work for another and what one person beleives in isnt the same as the other

and if your gonna take the stance that your opinion is essentially "better" then another, then your being whats called cynical

Cynical - Being concerned with only ones own idea and thought process, while blocking out and not even considering another.


So again to each his own....

my first bud that i cut...will be chopping her down soon when i had the chance