I've read everything still need help

im4satori

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ya mine sits around 7.4 from the tap

my last grow was in FFOF and when it was done the ph was 7.2 after harvest

I re-amended it and got it cooking (no lime ) and its down to 6.5

so the lime and biology seems to keep the ph of the soil in check despite the ph of the source water, but I still like to check it so I can see whats going on
 

Go go n chill

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ya mine sits around 7.4 from the tap

my last grow was in FFOF and when it was done the ph was 7.2 after harvest

I re-amended it and got it cooking (no lime ) and its down to 6.5

so the lime and biology seems to keep the ph of the soil in check despite the ph of the source water, but I still like to check it so I can see whats going on
This might be a stupid question ,but you reuse the dirt is that correct? Isn't the nutrients depleted
 

Buba Blend

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Hey I'll try to weigh my pots tonight for shits n giggles
Ok. You do that for giggles and I will cry because the information on what the 2 dry plants weighed that I did not think were drooping will never be known. :cry:
I'm tired and I've been neglecting my transplanting so I need to get busy on that and let the other guys help for awhile. I took you as far as I can you got a lot to digest like you said.
Digest this. If I said last Wednesday you were overwatering and I wanted you to do this or that you wouldn't have given me the time of day. If you had we could have had it resolved the same day, 300 posts sooner. We got past that and had a good time and I totally get that you were nervous that your plants might die or be terribly damaged if you held off watering. If I was sending you down a trap to hurt your plants a dozen people would have, how did one guy put it a couple of days ago? Oh yeah, I would have had 9 dicks shoved in my mouth.
I'm not upset I had a great time but need some down time.
 

im4satori

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This might be a stupid question ,but you reuse the dirt is that correct? Isn't the nutrients depleted
i replenish the nutrients and let it sit for a bit for the biology to break down the added amendments and make them available

its not something ive been doing long but at the moment I couldn't be happier with how its going

ive been growing hydro dtw for a loooong time and got bored and decided to learn something new

I got the once used FFOF sitting and cooking waiting for its time to use

I added per cubic foot (7.5 gallons)
2 cups rock dust (1 time only and not again)
1/2 cup azomite
1/2 gallon perlite (optional)
2 cups peat (not necessary)

1 cup gypsum

1.5 cups mix

mix is
2 parts kelp meal
1part neem cake
1 part alfalfa meal
1part crabmeal
1/2 part fish meal

it will sit for at least 4 weeks before I use it

I cant recommend anyone follow my mix cause ive not yet used it
 
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im4satori

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at the moment I got my few plants in my first soil build and its going extremely well so far

had a mild issue with low ph for about 10 days but its up now and things look great... other than the ph issue its been water only from the start
 

Go go n chill

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at the moment I got my few plants in my first soil build and its going extremely well so far

had a mild issue with low ph for about 10 days but its up now and things look great... other than the ph issue its been water only from the start
Are they photos or autos and how long have they been in your soil that sounds pretty satisfying to be able to mix that up and make it work. My goal was to just keep them alive I never thought I'd get this far I appreciate all you guys help
 
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Go go n chill

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Ok. You do that for giggles and I will cry because the information on what the 2 dry plants weighed that I did not think were drooping will never be known. :cry:
I'm tired and I've been neglecting my transplanting so I need to get busy on that and let the other guys help for awhile. I took you as far as I can you got a lot to digest like you said.
Digest this. If I said last Wednesday you were overwatering and I wanted you to do this or that you wouldn't have given me the time of day. If you had we could have had it resolved the same day, 300 posts sooner. We got past that and had a good time and I totally get that you were nervous that your plants might die or be terribly damaged if you held off watering. If I was sending you down a trap to hurt your plants a dozen people would have, how did one guy put it a couple of days ago? Oh yeah, I would have had 9 dicks shoved in my mouth.
I'm not upset I had a great time but need some down time.
No, I thought you wanted me to let the 2 wet ones ride till they dried and water the 2 bone dry girls. But hey thanks for all the assistance. It won't go to waste.
 

Go go n chill

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Ok. You do that for giggles and I will cry because the information on what the 2 dry plants weighed that I did not think were drooping will never be known. :cry:
I'm tired and I've been neglecting my transplanting so I need to get busy on that and let the other guys help for awhile. I took you as far as I can you got a lot to digest like you said.
Digest this. If I said last Wednesday you were overwatering and I wanted you to do this or that you wouldn't have given me the time of day. If you had we could have had it resolved the same day, 300 posts sooner. We got past that and had a good time and I totally get that you were nervous that your plants might die or be terribly damaged if you held off watering. If I was sending you down a trap to hurt your plants a dozen people would have, how did one guy put it a couple of days ago? Oh yeah, I would have had 9 dicks shoved in my mouth.
I'm not upset I had a great time but need some down time.
3gal pot dry.... 6.5 lbs
 

Buba Blend

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Harvest any time you want but there may be no reason to water again at all. Let them all dry out.
Buba Blend, Yesterday at 5:12 AM
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How much water (estimate) did you give each that day?
Buba Blend, Sunday at 6:36 PM
Did I miss the answer?
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No big deal like you said there is alot to digest. I look forward to seeing the harvest. We can always chat during the next grow. There is going to be a next grow right? You got skill.
I was tired and felt in the PM that you had a preference to do it a certain way and I was not up to argue, I could be wrong but regardless there will be alot to look forward to your next grow. If you use the same seeds your next grow will likely produce even better quality buds than your gonna get this time.
Peace!
 

Go go n chill

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Harvest any time you want but there may be no reason to water again at all. Let them all dry out.
Buba Blend, Yesterday at 5:12 AM
****
How much water (estimate) did you give each that day?
Buba Blend, Sunday at 6:36 PM
Did I miss the answer?
***
No big deal like you said there is alot to digest. I look forward to seeing the harvest. We can always chat during the next grow. There is going to be a next grow right? You got skill.
I was tired and felt in the PM that you had a preference to do it a certain way and I was not up to argue, I could be wrong but regardless there will be alot to look forward to your next grow. If you use the same seeds your next grow will likely produce even better quality buds than your gonna get this time.
Peace!
I watered them on Tuesday with 64 oz each. So it's been a week. The water meter for both are at 2.5 ......dry....... But they look bone dry on top of soil.
I'm gonna let them keep going for a couple of days so I can get a feel for what the plants do when they are finishing up. Might do a staggered harvest and compare the buzz. Yes I'm gonna keep growing, I have a reason. I'll flip the afghani reg#1's to 12/12 as soon as I can.
No personal preference, I thought that was the deal.... Learn to let them go dry and watch'em droop and then flush the shit out of'em. Hey no worries. Back to the fun stuff
 

Buba Blend

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@Go go n chill said: I thought that was the deal.... Learn to let them go dry and watch'em droop and then flush the shit out of'em.

I agree with the fun stuff.
When you go through the posts look to see were I ever agreed with anything other than letting them dry out and let me know. Thing is I still feel the plant you said was drooping would have held it's posture for a lot longer, many days. Flushing them might have been the right thing to do, I don't know, so I have no comments on it. I might have seemed like I was going along with a plan when you PM'ed me and I think suggested how you wanted to proceed and I said: sounds good.
But were all tired. I think Johnie thinks you ignored him. If that was what the small print Are you ignoring me meant. Johnie ignored or missed the post about plant # 7 that he complimented on Johnie's World a few days ago, when I asked if he remembered her. She waited up all night with the lights on waiting for an answer. She doesn't like you any more Johnie. All you had to do was say something nice and she would have let you smoke her all night long.
Go through the time lines of my posts. I waited till page 3 to respond after being the 1st to respond because overwatering wasn't being discussed. It took me days to turn the conversation. See how many times my posts were ignored. I posted a pic of pretty crystal, not to brag, I showed that incredibly beautiful crystal laiden well finished never fertilized never flushed bud awhile back to get your attention. Usually I'd move on. You got me when you showed you were going to do the homework and putting forth the effort.
 

Buba Blend

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Study flushing cannabis in soil. There are a lot of heated debates about flushing. Some people have situations that they are flushing soil when they should not. Your situation is different and it's an area were I'm the student and will watch the discussion on flushing if it is a topic somebody has more info on. I'd like to see that discussion.
 

Go go n chill

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@Go go n chill said: I thought that was the deal.... Learn to let them go dry and watch'em droop and then flush the shit out of'em.

I agree with the fun stuff.
When you go through the posts look to see were I ever agreed with anything other than letting them dry out and let me know. Thing is I still feel the plant you said was drooping would have held it's posture for a lot longer, many days. Flushing them might have been the right thing to do, I don't know, so I have no comments on it. I might have seemed like I was going along with a plan when you PM'ed me and I think suggested how you wanted to proceed and I said: sounds good.
But were all tired. I think Johnie thinks you ignored him. If that was what the small print Are you ignoring me meant. Johnie ignored or missed the post about plant # 7 that he complimented on Johnie's World a few days ago, when I asked if he remembered her. She waited up all night with the lights on waiting for an answer. She doesn't like you any more Johnie. All you had to do was say something nice and she would have let you smoke her all night long.
Go through the time lines of my posts. I waited till page 3 to respond after being the 1st to respond because overwatering wasn't being discussed. It took me days to turn the conversation. See how many times my posts were ignored. I posted a pic of pretty crystal, not to brag, I showed that incredibly beautiful crystal laiden well finished never fertilized never flushed bud awhile back to get your attention. Usually I'd move on. You got me when you showed you were going to do the homework and putting forth the effort.
I might have missed some posts, I did see your post early on about over watering, at that time I was sure that I had not been, lol lessons learned with a water meter. Thank you, I was over watering. Johnie was helping along with everyone else. I didn't see johny's world or any of that. So I can't comment. He flooded me with comments and videos. I haven't watched all of them . Like I said before all "comments" have been helpful and appreciated by me. Thanks for your help. Let's move on my friend, and grow!
 

Buba Blend

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Not all the time but I went through a period of overwatering in 2015 and 2016. Learned along time ago to grow great crystal. Begged someone to tell me not how great it is, but what they didn't like about it. No one was ever helpful there. Somewhere around 2012 or 2013 I typed marijuana growing as a search on my personal computer. I was always a stealth grower. I've always been around computers but refused to do anything on the phone or computer. Then I started reading stuff. Eventually like many I came to RIU and learned about cool things like runoff and flushing and went through a very educational 2 years of less than stellar quality weed while overwatering. Airy unfinished mediocre get you by till the next grow buds. Glad it's the next grow.
SHIT!!!!!!! @Go go n chill

Did you take the part about flushing and runoff literally here? I hope not. I was being sarcastic. What I should have said was runoff and flushing Fucked up my grows for over a year. It was bad for me, might be fine for somebody else with a different style.
 

im4satori

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Are they photos or autos and how long have they been in your soil that sounds pretty satisfying to be able to mix that up and make it work. My goal was to just keep them alive I never thought I'd get this far I appreciate all you guys help
regular seed

9 weeks veg and 9 weeks flower

no need for mother plants

im in week 2 of flower and haven't added fertilizer to the roots what so ever

I didi have a ph iisue that corrected and had to spray micros a couple times until I got the soil ph in range

I will likey end up having to add some high P guano cuz my soil mix is doesn't contain a lot of P...for which I might add some bonemeal next time
 
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Jynx616

Active Member
He doesn't need either. He needs to learn to stop listening to directions and pouring un needed stuff in his pots.

And to learn what the plants are telling him and the basics of fertilizing.

I suggest either learning to use the fox Farm trio only and no other products or better a 1 part complete fertilizer for simplicity.

Only an advanced grower with the knowledge to use the additional products with healthy plants will likely see any difference.

Humic acid works better with seaweed extract. It has been tested extensively in food production.

Both are included in the Botanicare Pure Blend Pro I use.

If I went with Jacks or Dyna gro or something with no organic input I would add humic and seaweed extract in the proper ratio.

But it is not necessary for a great harvest.
@MichiganMedGrower
I also use PBP
I also am from the Mit
I also was at canna cup in Clio
...
Did we just become best friends? ... lol jk, but do appreciate your wisdom
 

MichiganMedGrower

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@MichiganMedGrower
I also use PBP
I also am from the Mit
I also was at canna cup in Clio
...
Did we just become best friends? ... lol jk, but do appreciate your wisdom

Thanks but it's only education and some experience.:-)

I'm not from mi but Mrs. MMG is. I have been here about 6 years. I never went to a cup. I'm kind of old school and low key about my Grow offline. If you know what I mean.

Did you like going to the cup in Cleo?
 

Buba Blend

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@Go go n chill You mentioned awhile back about not knowing who to trust on the forums. I can't find the post in this thread but you did say that somewhere right? I get it, I learned some bad habits here before fixing them, you know like overwatering.
This thread below has all of the smartest guys in the room having a debate about roots and watering soil. You know some of the players. If someone they do not know says something stupid they will ignore it. If one of the guys conversing with each other says something stupid the others will all be quick to point out that they disagree. In a very polite manner of course.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/a-question-of-light-and-lack-thereof.944810/
 
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