ive looked and looked and still questioning what to buy... insight please??

ive spent about the past 2 weeks looking around for something decent to add to my nutrient line up... iam just running biobizz grow and bloom, molasses, diamond black humic acids and am using epsom salts around 3 weeks flowering to help with mg deficiencies.. i have roots organic soil-less as medium... so my question is, what can i add to further help my plants increase yield, sweeten buds and harden?? i hella have no clue what to get.. liquid? dry? big name? iam totally lost here...

but ive been looking at this bat guano:

http://htgsupply.com/Product-Super-Swell-Bat-Guano.asp

it def works on the wallet but what all will it do to my girls??... also, what are some other products you guys would recommend using?? do i need something more towards the microbiology of the soil and all that?? iam still pretty new and still collecting knowledge

thanks!!!

BIOBIZZ is a pretty complete line as is, with the Molasses and such you should be fairly well covered.

Personally I like BudSwel as my "guano"/"booster" of choice.... Topmax by BioBizz is aight to but personally i think over priced.

all iam using from bio bizz is the grow and bloom, no top max or fish stank or anythin haha.. but thats what iam thinkn as well, iam def looking for a "booster" type deal so the budSwel would be awesome! is it the same as the one in the picture? or is this the one your talking about?

http://htgsupply.com/Product-Budswel-Mix---2lb.asp

i think i will give this stuff a try, shit 25 bucks for 2 lbs.. yup!!!! do you use a air pump to oxygenize the mixture for a night??

thank you for being 1 in 123 people to help me, mucho appreciated!!!

Mollases should be enough your base should be fine additives arent that neccessary maybe big bud? Probably the only flowering additive worth using or that bud booster by black label nutrients

Check out great white. You need to use it in the veg and early flower though.


http://www.plant-success.com/index.php/mycorrhizal-products/great-white-mycorrhizae.html

If you are good at growing plants and understanding what they need, then you should not need to be adding 101 different things to your feeding schedule. They are largely sold because people know no better, pretty successful way of making easy money. I've used a range of various boosters and additives in side by sides, they never made a difference. Including with biobizz. I found that grow and bloom was all i required.

i def agree with you tip top, iam not looking to go all crazy and have 8 things mixed up into my nutrients.. i believe in the less is more way of thinking but i just wanted to be sure i am giving my girls all they need!! your advise is hella appreciated man!! thanks!!!

I'm by no means a great grower, i get by, largely in part due to not selling, so if i harvested enough to smoke till next harvest, then that was me happy, but for me it is all just experience. I took to DWC for convenience, and from starting out, i used the same A and B feed, till i had to shut my grow down earlier in the year, every single grow would end up being an ounce or so better than the last, nothing changed other than little tweaks here and there based on the observations from the previous grow

do u usually grow out the same strains?? i hope one day i can see oz jumps in my harvests haha, but like you i am just get'n by now and still learning a shit ton.. iam growing out some skunk berry and jilly bean right now myself

tip top toker said:

If you are good at growing plants and understanding what they need, then you should not need to be adding 101 different things to your feeding schedule. They are largely sold because people know no better, pretty successful way of making easy money. I've used a range of various boosters and additives in side by sides, they never made a difference. Including with biobizz. I found that grow and bloom was all i required.

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I feel pretty much the same way as well. I have tried alot of lines, complete too all the extra b.s. 9x outta 10 a solid base nute line was all that was required. All the other stuff just messed up my ph, confused the plants and etc.... never really did any of that magic stuff they claim it does.

I run 3 bottles now for nutes, and use 3 at transplant which are only used that 1 time at transplant and then off to my grow and bloom bases nothing else added.

When I do outside/organic stuff its a bit different depending on my mood, how much time and effort I want to put in, and what I have on hand. I used to use roots organic with or FFOF with BIOBIZZ grow and BLoom or Technaflora depending on cost and size. Pretty much BIO generally won out.... but I never needed all the extra bottles and stuff just a nice complete base.

i did pick up the dry budswel 0-7-0 to make into a tea and will start using it late week 2 or early week 3 of flowering, sound right??. I water about 2 times a week.. i hella dont wanna over do anything, this is my flowering feed schedule i have worked up so far based on the biobizz feeding chart i saw, everything is per liter:
week 1: 1ml grow, 1ml bloom 1st water, 2nd water is pure
week 2: 1ml grow, 2ml bloom, 1/4th tbs molasses 1st water, 2nd water is pure
week 3: 1ml grow, 2ml bloom, 1/4th tbs molasses, 1ml diamond black humic acids 1st water- 2nd watering with 1/2 strength budswel tea
week 4: 1ml grow, 3ml bloom, 1/4th tbs molasses, 1st water, 2nd watering with budswel tea
week 5: same as week 4
week 6: 2ml grow, 1ml bloom, 1/4th tbs molasses, 1ml diamond black humic acids 1st water, 2nd watering with budswel tea
week 7 till harvest: 1ml grow, 1 ml bloom, 1/4th tbs molasses 1st water, 2nd watering with budswel tea

does this seem like a good schedule to go about things? iam still trying to figure everything out so some input/ help would be great!!!
is it right not to starve.. i mean, flush my plants at the end? haha

I'd bump the Humic to week 5 somewhere in there most likely mid week 4 or start week 5 because that is when the larger volumes of P and K uptake really ramp up for the bulking, swelling stage. ( this is based on a 8 wk. finish time btw. )

By week 6 your starting to get into ripening and not so much bulking so nutrient needs can go down a bit..... Looks pretty good to me.... I would totally add a flush in there at the end even though its organics it just helps the plants use what was stored up and also helps ripening/turpentine production is what I have noticed in my runs.

Otherwise your chart looks solid.... that is what we run outdoors on monster plants and generally if I wanna run a simple liquid organics I run that inside as well. I dont even make tea with the BUDswell, generally we will top dress the soil based on pot size about week 4...... also I tend to use the liquid Budswel indoors and the powder outside as a top dress.

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I'd bump the Humic to week 5 somewhere in there most likely mid week 4 or start week 5 because that is when the larger volumes of P and K uptake really ramp up for the bulking, swelling stage. ( this is based on a 8 wk. finish time btw. )

By week 6 your starting to get into ripening and not so much bulking so nutrient needs can go down a bit..... Looks pretty good to me.... I would totally add a flush in there at the end even though its organics it just helps the plants use what was stored up and also helps ripening/turpentine production is what I have noticed in my runs.

Otherwise your chart looks solid.... that is what we run outdoors on monster plants and generally if I wanna run a simple liquid organics I run that inside as well. I dont even make tea with the BUDswell, generally we will top dress the soil based on pot size about week 4...... also I tend to use the liquid Budswel indoors and the powder outside as a top dress.

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cool i will bump the humic for later weeks, and add that flush!! thanks for help'n me out man!!! yea i hella dont mind making the tea, i will only make 1/2gals to a gal at a time so its hella no big deal for the cash saved. thanks again!!!

No prob dude.... good luck with everything and enjoy it....

With practice and decent foundation of skill/knowledge you start with you can do a decent job I bet..... best part the more practice you get under your belt if you are observant and PATIENT you and your skills will only get better and better.... as will your ability to read your plants and their needs, or exact timing for your supplements in your feed chart, as you get to know your grow style, and your strain.....

This will help you get it dialed in, pending you don't swap out genetics every grow like some people. ( this is good if you just want personal and stuff, but it makes it much harder to dial in and refine a feeding program. )

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do u usually grow out the same strains?? i hope one day i can see oz jumps in my harvests haha, but like you i am just get'n by now and still learning a shit ton.. iam growing out some skunk berry and jilly bean right now myself

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where did you get your jilly bean seeds

Your nutrients sounds fine.

Might help more to start trying to dial your environment