UncleBuck
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yep, the "kill all jews on earth" people are the victims.
Israel starts deporting African migrants
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SneekyNinja
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Silence.
Adults are talking.
Edit: And fine, I'll bite.
That was the ex Iranian President, not Hamas.
Colo MMJ
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Roger Waters and David Gilmour concert for Palestinian charity. Arguably the leaders of the greatest rock band in history.
Roger Waters on Palestine
Roger Waters Song For Palestine
Two racist bigots, who deport the black ones, in Jerusalem playing a Pink Floyd song written by Roger Waters and David Gilmour who support the rights of the Palestinians. Irony. Richard Wright also was credited as a writer of the song about Syd Barrett.
The proper version.
Drummer Nick Mason also supports The Palestinians.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/05/02/pink-floyd-to-rolling-stones-boycott-israel/?utm_term=.502b9c51213b
Roger Waters on Palestine
Roger Waters Song For Palestine
Two racist bigots, who deport the black ones, in Jerusalem playing a Pink Floyd song written by Roger Waters and David Gilmour who support the rights of the Palestinians. Irony. Richard Wright also was credited as a writer of the song about Syd Barrett.
The proper version.
Drummer Nick Mason also supports The Palestinians.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/05/02/pink-floyd-to-rolling-stones-boycott-israel/?utm_term=.502b9c51213b
UncleBuck
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yep, hamas includes lies about jews that hitler used to create the pretense for their extermination because no reason.
victims
SneekyNinja
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UncleBuck
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not a single thing i said was an exaggeration of any sort.Lol.
Keep stretching, dude.
hitler blamed the jews for the loss of WWI, it eventually became the pretense for exterminating every jew they could find.
hamas has the same anti-semitic canards and worse written directly into their charter. do you think that is by accident or is done for no reason?
i guess if you want to repeat history, your strategy of forgetting it and revising it and writing it off is a good one
SneekyNinja
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Yeah, cos it's the Palestinians occupying another nation's land, turning the occupied lands into a ghetto and using weapons banned by the Geneva Convention on civilians...
UncleBuck
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now you're changing the subject
abandonconflict
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If history is can be counted on for precedent, integration never turns out as badly as the people in power swear it will. EG South Africa improved without apartheid, things are continuing to improve in post Jim Crow US. Israel ought to join the 21st century and get secular.
SneekyNinja
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I'm changing the subject?
I'm saying Hamas talks a load of shit, but Israel is the one used banned munitions on civilians in its shock and awe displays it puts on every few years to try crush the Palestinians spirit.
Fogdog
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Why are you continuing to fulminate about this? Has anybody defended the actions of Israel? Are you defending the actions of Hamas?
Fogdog
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You are right, Hamas didn't say those words precisely. Also, Hamas has greatly amended their stance, depending on interpretation.
1. The Islamic Resistance Movement “Hamas” is a Palestinian Islamic national liberation and resistance movement. Its goal is to liberate Palestine and confront the Zionist project. Its frame of reference is Islam, which determines its principles, objectives and means.
16. Hamas affirms that its conflict is with the Zionist project not with the Jews because of their religion
http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/hamas-charter-1637794876
This is their most recent charter. In it, there is no mention of protocols of zion or "killing all jews" everywhere but, what is the zionist project? It doesn't really clarify in the charter.
In any case, there is no mention of a two state solution or recognizing Israel but it is a more modern and enlightened document compared to the 1987 one that Marwan continues to support.
I'm beginning to understand why a one state solution is probably the only one that can last. I don't see a path forward for this either.
zeddd
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Must have made a few quid pushing the “it’s for Palestinians” gig, must need the money, £200,000,000 is never enough nick mason.
SneekyNinja
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Buck claims Israel is innocent and defends them, he also keep associating Hamas directly with the oppressed ordinary people of Palestine.
He's fighting hard for those "Jew points" but due to the lack of a Jewish mother it is all for not, its basically just cultural appropriation and virtue signalling.
Colo MMJ
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Looks like war monger,black person hater & bigot Bibi Nutin-yahoo may be going to jail. Apartheid Israel
where Palestinians and blacks are treated like dogs. Does Israel have Jim Crow laws?
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-13/israeli-police-recommend-netanyahu-be-indicted-bribery
Kicking out all the Africans. Wow. This lady said the Israeli police call the Africans monkeys and monkey shits! She says this towards the end of the video.
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SneekyNinja
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I wonder how many people there'd be in Israel today if the rest of Europe closed its borders and sent "illegal infiltrators" back to Germany?Looks like war monger,black person hater & bigot Bibi Nutin-yahoo may be going to jail. Apartheid Israel
where Palestinians and blacks are treated like dogs. Does Israel have Jim Crow laws?
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-13/israeli-police-recommend-netanyahu-be-indicted-bribery
Violence and racism against Africans in Tel Aviv.
Kicking out all the Africans. Wow. This lady said the Israeli police call the Africans monkeys and monkey shits! She says this towards the end of the video.
Fogdog
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zerohedge and youtubeLooks like war monger,black person hater & bigot Bibi Nutin-yahoo may be going to jail. Apartheid Israel
where Palestinians and blacks are treated like dogs. Does Israel have Jim Crow laws?
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-13/israeli-police-recommend-netanyahu-be-indicted-bribery
Violence and racism against Africans in Tel Aviv.
Kicking out all the Africans. Wow. This lady said the Israeli police call the Africans monkeys and monkey shits! She says this towards the end of the video.
waste of time
Fogdog
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I don't think he's defending Israel so much as pointing out that there are serious problems with assuming Palestinians even want peace. Same goes for Israel. I'm not talking about Hamas, I'm talking about polling data from both sides.
https://en.idi.org.il/press-releases/4213
Palestinian-Israeli Pulse: Low Chances for an Independent Palestinian State in the Next 5 Years
Survey shows only small majority of Israelis and Palestinians support a two-state solution and that Israelis and Palestinians do not trust each other
The poll, which surveyed 1,270 Palestinians and 1,184 Israelis, focused on the public’s views on a permanent peace agreement, ability to trust and compromise with the other side, and mistrust and fear of the other.
When presented with a peace agreement package based on that from previous rounds of negotiations, only 39% of Palestinians and 46% of Israelis (39% of Israeli Jews and 90% of Israeli Arabs) said they support such a package. The package included a de-militarized Palestinian state, Israeli withdrawal to the Green Line (pre-June 1967 lines) with equal territorial exchange as relevant, a family unification in Israel of 100,000 Palestinian refugees, West Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and East Jerusalem as the capital of Palestine (the Jewish quarter and the Western Wall under Israeli sovereignty and the Muslim and Christian quarters and the Temple Mount/al Haram al Sharif under Palestinian sovereignty), and the end of the conflict and claims.
Given that Palestinian voters chose Hamas to control the Gaza strip, it bends the truth to claim that Hamas doesn't represent them.