Isolating Pure CBD.

qwizoking

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I treat drugs or safety precautions for example extremely seriously it's my profession, so no I will not advocate something until I know exactly how it affects you and that it's safe.. it's what we do, sorry..

now bc that's public information. I wont argue with your uneducated opinion
Well I guess I'm out... lol
 

BCOGYODA

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Just cause someone has a heart attach and they happen to be using marijuana in their life at the time does not mean that person died from mj use. They died of a heart attach or cardiac arrest.
Have a doctor or medical examiner prove that without a third party non government sponsored med examiner disprove it.

As the world figures out how to use this plant to treat more medical problems for free or non profit you will see the governments try to keep it away from us using it; more, and more, and more.
More propaganda will come forward from big pharma and the governments
 

BCOGYODA

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I treat drugs or safety precautions for example extremely seriously it's my profession, so no I will not advocate something until I know exactly how it affects you and that it's safe.. it's what we do, sorry..

now bc that's public information. I wont argue with your uneducated opinion
Well I guess I'm out... lol
You won't argue cause you can't. My points are understood by anyone reading it. It's common knowledge.
And you have no idea what my education is my friend.

I study the book of life. And I consider my self pretty well versed in it.
 

BCOGYODA

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I treat drugs or safety precautions for example extremely seriously it's my profession, so no I will not advocate something until I know exactly how it affects you and that it's safe.. it's what we do, sorry..

now bc that's public information. I wont argue with your uneducated opinion
Well I guess I'm out... lol
So if these girls were your daughters Qwiz would you let them die or go through life as walking talking vegetables or would you give them the CBD's and save their lives?
 

ru4r34l

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personally I won't advocate medical use of cannabis..
I get shit for saying that and being tied with the pharmaceutical industry, but I feel more research needs done before it can be used safely (as does most every other doctor in the country)

like the studies I posted yesterday (stow knows what i'm talking about) it's just not clear completely how these compounds interact with one another. many of the properties are bi or triphasic. and with a million side effects plus tolerance. there are many variables to treating with cannabis and despite the uniform belief nobody has died from it, that's simply not true
huh?
cerebellar infarction was confirmed by biopsy (1 case) or necropsy (2 cases)... Brainstem compromise caused by cerebellar and cerebral edema led to death in the 2 fatal cases."
Apr. 4, 2004 - Thomas Geller, MD

Cannabis is generally considered to be a drug with very low toxicity. In this paper, we report six cases where recent cannabis intake was associated with sudden and unexpected death. An acute cardiovascular event was the probable cause of death. In all cases, cannabis intake was documented by blood analysis... Further investigation of clinical, toxicologial and epidemiological aspects are needed to enlighten causality between cannabis intake and acute cardiovascular events."
Dec. 27, 2001 - Liliana Bachs, MD
I don't feel like googling for this stuff.....
fda says 276 deaths in I think from 97-2005
in perfectly healthy indivisuals I wouldn't worry. fda says only 4 cases of true overdose and was on mostly thc.. but if your unhealthy biggest issues are the heart, neural excitement, loss of blood flow to extremities, pancreas and liver....
Wow just wow, that study is a merge of many unrelated materials, the main reference seem to come from Ms Gabrielle deVeber, MD
who is the director of the Children's' Stroke program at Sick Kids (Tidbit, I was born at SickKids) and has NEVER attempted a study to link Stroke in adolescents from cannabis use.
The Canadian Paediatric Ischemic Stroke Registry has studied stroke in more than 1500 infants and children at the 16 children’s hospitals in Canada. At least 4.5 per 100,000 children per year suffer stroke in Canada
4.5 per 1000,000 children per year suffer stroke and the article referenced studied 3 stroke victims from within a 5 year time frame and solely contribute initial hospitilization on ONLY cannabis use, that in itself seems to be a farse, especially since THC levels were never documented.

regards,
 

skunkd0c

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You could send these guys an email or something and ask them how to do it lol

Phytocannabinoid Compounds
Naturally occurring cannabis (Cannabis sativa) contains a group of chemical compounds not found in other plants known as cannabinoids. Over 60 different cannabinoids have so far been identified but the role and importance of many of these has yet to be fully understood. GW is researching a large number of cannabinoids, each of which has different effects and applications.


GW has unique access to an extensive library of “phytocannabinoids” through the breeding of unique “chemotypes” (plants characterised by their chemical content). Currently available cannabinoids include:

  • D9-THC (Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol)


  • D8-THC(Delta-8 Tetrahydrocannabinol)


  • THCA(Tetrahydrocannabinol – Acid)


  • THCV(Tetrahydrocannabivarin)


  • THCVA(Tetrahydrocannabivarin – Acid)


  • CBD(Cannabidiol)


  • CBDA(Cannabidiol - Acid)


  • CBDV(Cannabidivarin)
  • CBDVA(Cannabidivarin - Acid)


  • CBC(Cannabichromene)


  • CBG(Cannabigerol)


  • CBGA(Cannabigerol – Acid)


  • CBGV(Cannabigerovarin)


  • CBN(Cannabinol)


  • CBNV(Cannabinovarin)



Of the cannabinoids listed above, only two cannabinoids have to date been well characterized – THC and CBD. Both THC and CBD have important pharmacology: THC has analgesic, anti-spasmodic, anti-tremor, anti-inflammatory, appetite stimulant and anti-emetic properties, whilst CBD has anti-inflammatory, anti-convulsant, anti-psychotic, anti-oxidant, neuroprotective and immunomodulatory effects. CBD is not intoxicating and indeed it has been postulated that the presence of CBD in cannabis may alleviate some of the potentially unwanted side-effects of THC. There is currently limited scientific information on the pharmacology and toxicology of the other cannabinoids. Cannabinoids are believed to be effective in suppressing muscle spasticity, spasms, bladder dysfunction and pain symptoms of MS.


GW believes that the beneficial therapeutic effects of cannabis derived medicines result from the interaction of different cannabinoids, hence GW's medicines consist of cannabinoids in different ratios. In addition GW believes that other components within the plant may also play a useful role.



Natural Cannabinoids (endocannabinoids)
The discovery of the cannabinoid receptors led to the demonstration of the existence of the body’s own natural cannabinoids (endocannabinoids), the most important of which are arachidonoyl-ethanolamide (anandamide), 2-arachidonoyl glycerol (2-AG) and arachidonyl glyceryl ether (noladin ether). This remains a highly dynamic field. There is evidence that anandamide can serve as a neuromodulator or neurotransmitter on its own or in conjunction with inactive precursors in what has been dubbed the “entourage effect”.

http://www.gwpharm.com/types-compounds.aspx
 

BCOGYODA

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FDA: Fucking Delusional Association

Big Pharma, Government, FDA a conglomerate of evils profiting from the sick and prolonging illness for pure sake of money making.

Keep feeding the machine

Knowledgeable, down the earth , common sense people are pretty hard to pull the wool over on
 

lio lacidem

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So because of the idiotic scheduling of marijuana making adequate research illegal that somehow negates all the underground research and results showing atleast an improvement in quality of life if not fully curing certain diseases? Seems like you have definately been working for big Pharma way too long, as those very companies constantly distribute "medicine" with very adverse effects, then recalling them after many deaths. Until i see some concrete proof then ill take pot over pills any day.
 

BCOGYODA

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Take a look back on Aids research and see how long the government, FDA etc tried to keep meds that worked better away from patients.
No it's not cause the FDA gave a shit about patients. It's all about money.

People are a lot smarter than the used to be. And a lot of people know better than to take the governments, fda, pharma's word on anything without questioning it first or checking studies done by non profit third parties now.
The jig is up when it comes to brainwashing.
 

qwizoking

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perhaps I have been in this industry too long. I used tothink it should be legal and available for medical use.. a few years back I cut my index finger off, a friend of mine happened to be a specialist and I got the nerves etc attached in a jiffy. it wasn't until then I personally experienced the bi/triphasic properties of cannabis that hinder its medical use so severely..I think that's what changed my mind. nobody will argue the side effects of cannabis you can't.it does effect heart rate blood pressure etc, and if you honestly think that won't effect someone with those conditions I don't know what to say.. it does ha e documented side effects wether you believe it or not. might it be better than the alternative prescription? that's different.. but we can't just legalize it and make it available without understanding or shit would rain down. and it takes a very long time to approve any drug.

Im honoured to have been involved in some of the upcoming (synthetic) cannabis products. I have nothing to gain from talking bad about it..
 

BCOGYODA

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Well, not to blow any secrets, but I will be locating a high CBD low THC strain to grow out and designate for donations to needy people per growing cycle. I haven't yet found the strain (supposedly I do have access to Charlottes web cut ) or decided on storage options and extraction options, but this is my goal in the next few years. People are suffering everywhere and we all need to come together to helps those in need. If we are healthy enough as human beings and capable to do these things, I feel We should be obligated to. Compassion and love will heal this world, not dollars and synthetic pharmacies.

All bullshit aside, I screw off and talk a lot of shit for fun on this site, because that's who I am, a jokester, but this is real life and I cry for others over my own.
Right on Chewberto. I think some people are born with that feeling deep inside them. It's not something that is made up or created. These are the kinds of people who make a real difference in the world in positive ways.
The sick children are what gets to me even more because of their innocence. They have not abused drugs, gotten sick from alcoholism, brought these sicknesses upon themselves etc..they are born with sickness that makes them not live normal healthy lives. They grow up not living the lives as regular children. And the parents live such painful lives watching and tending to their sick children.
It tares me up big time seeing these sick children and the pain and hurt in their parents eyes.
Bless you man for wanting to help. You will change the lives of others. And there is no greater reward in life but to see sick people you care about get better.
 

st0wandgrow

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perhaps I have been in this industry too long. I used tothink it should be legal and available for medical use.. a few years back I cut my index finger off, a friend of mine happened to be a specialist and I got the nerves etc attached in a jiffy. it wasn't until then I personally experienced the bi/triphasic properties of cannabis that hinder its medical use so severely..I think that's what changed my mind. nobody will argue the side effects of cannabis you can't.it does effect heart rate blood pressure etc, and if you honestly think that won't effect someone with those conditions I don't know what to say.. it does ha e documented side effects wether you believe it or not. might it be better than the alternative prescription? that's different.. but we can't just legalize it and make it available without understanding or shit would rain down. and it takes a very long time to approve any drug.

Im honoured to have been involved in some of the upcoming (synthetic) cannabis products. I have nothing to gain from talking bad about it..

This plant has been around longer than every pill that man has ever conceived. The reality of the situation is that it's still a schedule 1 drug because it would cost pharmaceutical companies dearly if it were ever legalized. Big pharma can trot out pills with a list of side effects longer than The Odyssey and that's OK, but god forbid this plant gets the nod.

Why does the FDA approve boner pills that can lead to your heart exploding after a 12 hour erection, yet they can't find it in them to look in to this plant that by all indications has a broad spectrum of uses and seems relatively harmless?

The answer= $$$$$$
 

BCOGYODA

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That was such a nonsense "study" that I can hardly believe it got published.

Did you look at who funded it?
I was gonna quote some laughable's from it and show how it's worded to keep the door closed from law suits but it's a waste of time. People are smarter than that.

Ya we all know mj gets you high and can impair your judgment when your stoned. That isn't a revaluation for fuck sake lol.
And we are discussing CBD medicinal use here anyway.
Is it gonna kill you? No. There is no proof of that. And any attempt to say it has has been dis proven over and over again by third parties.
 

ru4r34l

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perhaps I have been in this industry too long. I used tothink it should be legal and available for medical use.. a few years back I cut my index finger off, a friend of mine happened to be a specialist and I got the nerves etc attached in a jiffy. it wasn't until then I personally experienced the bi/triphasic properties of cannabis that hinder its medical use so severely..I think that's what changed my mind. nobody will argue the side effects of cannabis you can't.it does effect heart rate blood pressure etc, and if you honestly think that won't effect someone with those conditions I don't know what to say.. it does ha e documented side effects wether you believe it or not. might it be better than the alternative prescription? that's different.. but we can't just legalize it and make it available without understanding or shit would rain down. and it takes a very long time to approve any drug.

Im honoured to have been involved in some of the upcoming (synthetic) cannabis products. I have nothing to gain from talking bad about it..
I would never assist in an synthetic cannabis product ever, there is no need on earth to synthesize something that is formed in nature naturally, more harm then good will come from this.

Also check out Canasol and Asmasol for NON-synthesized medicine produced directly from the plant we all love.

Another little tidbit concerning synthetic THC.
"In 1980, the National Cancer Institute (NCI) began experimental distribution of a new drug called Marinol, an oral form of THC (the primary active ingredient in marijuana), to cancer patients in San Francisco. Simultaneously, six states conducted studies comparing smoked marijuana to oral THC in cancer patients who had not responded to traditional antivomiting medication. These state-sponsored studies revealed that thousands of patients found marijuana safer and more effective than synthetic THC.
The US government since 2003 seem to think this plant has medicinal properties, despite their current stance on the subject.
“Cannabinoids have been found to have antioxidant properties, unrelated to NMDA receptor antagonism. This new found property makes cannabinoids useful in the treatment and prophylaxis of wide variety of oxidation associated diseases, such as ischemic, age-related, inflammatory and autoimmune diseases.The cannabinoids are found to have particular application as neuroprotectants, for example in limiting neurological damage following ischemic insults, such as stroke and trauma, or in the treatment of neurodegenerative diseases, such as Alzheimer’s disease, Parkinson’s disease and HIV dementia.”
see Patent 6630507 Issued on October 7, 2003. Estimated Expiration Date: February 2, 2021.

I like how the patent states
SUMMARY OF THE INVENTION
They invented the plant? or maybe the canabinoids?
 
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