Isolating Pure CBD.

st0wandgrow

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Hey Chewberto this stuff touches my heart more than anything in the world. Cancer treatment, seizure treatment, any medicinal value this amazing plant has to offer should be free to the world and used by anyone that wants it, needs it, or provides it.
I have offered my services on the Canadian medicinal section of this forum before several times and I will post it here too. I am in Canada so my offer can't go out to anyone in the USA unfortunately but if any one in Canada wants to spend time and energy researching these things more or providing medicine to these kinds of patients I will do so and provide 100% funding and product to do so. I can be reached by PM about any serious inquiries, info, or ideas.

Good on ya! I have taken the same approach here in Michigan. I have handed out (for free) clones of high cbd plants that I have, and will continue to do so. This stuff needs to be spread far and wide and kept out of the hands of profiteers IMO.
 

qwizoking

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personally I won't advocate medical use of cannabis..
I get shit for saying that and being tied with the pharmaceutical industry, but I feel more research needs done before it can be used safely (as does most every other doctor in the country)

like the studies I posted yesterday (stow knows what i'm talking about) it's just not clear completely how these compounds interact with one another. many of the properties are bi or triphasic. and with a million side effects plus tolerance. there are many variables to treating with cannabis and despite the uniform belief nobody has died from it, that's simply not true
 

st0wandgrow

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BC, Nate Morris is actually a Canadian, and he is living back in Canada now (Toronto area). He moved back to work on over turning the new laws there. He is very active in pediatric cannabis. I could put you in touch with him if you want....
 

BCOGYODA

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Did I just read you right Qwiz? You are saying on an open forum that patients have died from marijuana use?

PLEASE put up some real info proving this.
 

BCOGYODA

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BC, Nate Morris is actually a Canadian, and he is living back in Canada now (Toronto area). He moved back to work on over turning the new laws there. He is very active in pediatric cannabis. I could put you in touch with him if you want....
Yes please do Stow. I have friends in Ontario that could make connecting/sharing/working together very easy.
 

st0wandgrow

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personally I won't advocate medical use of cannabis..
I get shit for saying that and being tied with the pharmaceutical industry, but I feel more research needs done before it can be used safely (as does most every other doctor in the country)

like the studies I posted yesterday (stow knows what i'm talking about) it's just not clear completely how these compounds interact with one another. many of the properties are bi or triphasic. and with a million side effects plus tolerance. there are many variables to treating with cannabis and despite the uniform belief nobody has died from it, that's simply not true
I respect your opinion quiz, but the reality of the matter is that people (kids) ARE dying from the cocktail of pharmaceuticals that they are currently taking, so while I can't go on record saying that cannabis is 100% safe and effective, I'd be willing to venture that it is more safe than the conventional alternatives
 

chewberto

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Well, not to blow any secrets, but I will be locating a high CBD low THC strain to grow out and designate for donations to needy people per growing cycle. I haven't yet found the strain (supposedly I do have access to Charlottes web cut ) or decided on storage options and extraction options, but this is my goal in the next few years. People are suffering everywhere and we all need to come together to helps those in need. If we are healthy enough as human beings and capable to do these things, I feel We should be obligated to. Compassion and love will heal this world, not dollars and synthetic pharmacies.

All bullshit aside, I screw off and talk a lot of shit for fun on this site, because that's who I am, a jokester, but this is real life and I cry for others over my own.
 

Frenchy Cannoli

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If you process hemp you will have plenty CBD to make you happy guys. Enjoy!
For the record I have a cancer patient 90 years old that felt a difference between full potent oil and only CBD oil, a preference are going toward the "full cannabinoids spectrum" oil because of the relaxing effects and boost of appetite mainly.
 

CannaCole

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personally I won't advocate medical use of cannabis..
I get shit for saying that and being tied with the pharmaceutical industry, but I feel more research needs done before it can be used safely (as does most every other doctor in the country)

like the studies I posted yesterday (stow knows what i'm talking about) it's just not clear completely how these compounds interact with one another. many of the properties are bi or triphasic. and with a million side effects plus tolerance. there are many variables to treating with cannabis and despite the uniform belief nobody has died from it, that's simply not true
I partially hear you. But... imagine one of your kids having 100 seizures a week and traditional medicine no longer works... what do you do? Most would try anything.. Try shit that's in clinical trial where the only concern is how the companies will be paid?

Would you rather a 5 year old go through chemo or take RSO if all bets are off?

My dad went strictly the traditional route and now he's 5 feet under... RIP pops.
 

BCOGYODA

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I can not respect anyone's opinion that states a little girl should not have her life saved by using CBD as medicine.

This girl I posted the video of was on her death bed and had no life. A seizure every 15 minutes of her life.

Using pharmaceuticals did not help one bit and she was as good as dead to her self and her family. A vegetable for the most part of her life with no control of her body or brain.

And look at her now.

Ya right that's not worth advocating. Fucking unreal
 

qwizoking

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cerebellar infarction was confirmed by biopsy (1 case) or necropsy (2 cases)... Brainstem compromise caused by cerebellar and cerebral edema led to death in the 2 fatal cases."
Apr. 4, 2004 - Thomas Geller, MD

Cannabis is generally considered to be a drug with very low toxicity. In this paper, we report six cases where recent cannabis intake was associated with sudden and unexpected death. An acute cardiovascular event was the probable cause of death. In all cases, cannabis intake was documented by blood analysis... Further investigation of clinical, toxicologial and epidemiological aspects are needed to enlighten causality between cannabis intake and acute cardiovascular events."
Dec. 27, 2001 - Liliana Bachs, MD
I don't feel like googling for this stuff.....
fda says 279 deaths from 97-2005
in perfectly healthy indivisuals I wouldn't worry. fda says only 4 cases of true overdose and was on mostly thc/marinol. but if your unhealthy biggest issues are the heart, neural excitement, loss of blood flow to extremities, pancreas and liver....
 
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qwizoking

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stopping treatment in patients with tolerance can bring back severe seizures as well etc etc..
if you think this is a miracle drug. Good for you.. but I can tell you why it's taking so long to be available pharmaceutically
 

BCOGYODA

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My father, step father, and father in law have all died of Cancer. Other members of my immediate family have died of Cancer. I have a close friend who's wife has Epilepsy. One of my employees is in remission. His fiancee has Melanoma.
Pharmaceuticals, radiation, chemo.....fucking bullshit. The government is bullshit. Drug companies are bullshit.
Marijuana is real and was put here for us to fucking figure out and use. It's effectiveness is not smoke and mirrors like the main stream bullshit is.
 

st0wandgrow

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BC. I will get in touch with Nate over the weekend and pass along his info to you. He's very willing to help, and has a ton of good info to share
 

chewberto

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This women's husband told me the other day. "You know all those things you claim marijuana fixes can be taken in a pill" I said "well not some people , the pills won't work" then he said " that's just one in a million" I said "so she doesn't have the right to a certain quality I life that you and I share" he as others are willing to let "some" die because they were taught marijuana is a bad drug. Yet he will stand by the concept of "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." If marijuana Is the only substance so far that gives a person such as Charlottes Figi her "life" than it should be mandatory.
 

BCOGYODA

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This is what makes any of that report bullshit and un proven and also a legal hide away from getting sued : "In all cases, cannabis intake was documented by blood analysis... Further investigation of clinical, toxicologial and epidemiological aspects are needed to enlighten causality between cannabis intake and acute cardiovascular events."

Layman's terms: there is no proven link by toxicology or epidemiological aspects.

Also the ..... Where's that text.

Bullshit and easily written that way in an smoke and mirror fashion.
 

st0wandgrow

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stopping treatment in patients with tolerance can bring back severe seizures as well etc etc..
if you think this is a miracle drug. Good for you.. but I can tell you why it's taking so long to be available pharmaceutically
Nobody is advocating going cold turkey on the prescription meds. Common sense dictates that it needs to be gradually stepped down. Withdrawal symptoms are no joke. Would you not agree that marijuana is a better alternative to pills if it does a better job at controlling symptoms? My patient has had his life changed by cannabis. How can that be discounted?
 

BCOGYODA

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There has NEVER been any PROVEN deaths from marijuana use.

Post up some real evidence Qwiz or a retraction should be given or re word it as an opinion because what you posted is bullshit
 

BCOGYODA

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Pharma and government won't approve this or show how mj is proven to work because they can't make a profit off of it when people around the world are growing it for free.

NOT because it's dangerous and needs to be studied more.

Yes, of course it needs to be studied more as to make it most effective and understood, but not because the government or big pharma gives a fuck about the patients health.

Give you head a shake if that's truly what you believe. Money is the route of that evil you mention.
 
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